My Dyno Sheet----Finally!!

[mtbrider]

As many of you know I'm running the evolution racewerks hardware kit on my car. Everyone wanted to know what it makes well I finally got it dyno'd. 291.4 on a dyno dynamics. Thus had I gone to a dynojet I'd easily be in the 300's. This is on pump and methanol injection. With a rather conservative tune. I'll be finishing off my exhaust next week and then I plan on going to the dyno again to get a 300awhp dyno on pump out of this set-up. The beauty of this kit coupled with the ER comp intercooler is that I was not losing any hp. The 4th run I made actually made 292hp but my car started to misfire so the graph is a little up and down. Here is the sheet:



And one of the kit...

[3thrd_a_4]

Very Nice!!

[B6Lovin]

sweet jesus. 2871R and Uni 630 right?

[Mark]

always amazed by the numbers that are generated at the top RPM range with these setups . . . it has been said before but I'll say it again . . . it would be nice if the numbers came on earlier though. The price we pay for big turbos on small displacement cars.

looks good! makes running the whip around just that much better.

[mtbrider]

sweet jesus. 2871R and Uni 630 right?

Correct. I'll get it over 300 on pump and then see what it does on a race file and then its time for a bigger turbo and built head.

[A4 TSCHUSS]

damn that thing takes FOREVER to make power! Even if it does read a little low, I was just looking at one of my dynos to compare and actually both of my dyno graphs (two different dynos) at 4000rpm I was at 200whp and 265wtq where you were at 200whp and only 210wtq at 5000rpm! I think you need more timing or something.

[mtbrider]

Like I said the file is a pretty conservative one. I was working with Mike Z at unitronics and I'm still using the immobilizer defeated ecu he sent me as we were having other issues with the software. Now that everything is good thou we can actually go in and start to tune it. I mean close to 300 on pump is a pretty decent start.

[mtbrider]

I'm very happy with the set-up and can't wait to finish the tuning and exhaust on my car, then its back to the dyno with some new plugs and we'll see how we do.

[A4 TSCHUSS]

Like I said the file is a pretty conservative one. I was working with Mike Z at unitronics and I'm still using the immobilizer defeated ecu he sent me as we were having other issues with the software. Now that everything is good thou we can actually go in and start to tune it. I mean close to 300 on pump is a pretty decent start.

yes but you are running meth which is a huge difference so you are technically not on "pump." With my meth running I could run the highest timing setting I have with my Revo software which is only ran on race gas.

Shawn (A4ringed0ne8t) dynoed 298whp on "pump" and meth with his GTRS.

[RLB6]

That setup makes power as slow as mine does but it makes more of it . Those are really good numbers on pump. This setup would be more ideal for a 2 liter motor which can spool it up faster. Once you get the tuning where you want it, I'm sure you'll touch the 320's, on pump.

[RLB6]

yes but you are running meth which is a huge difference so you are technically not on "pump." With my meth running I could run the highest timing setting I have with my Revo software which is only ran on race gas.

Shawn (A4ringed0ne8t) dynoed 298whp on "pump" and meth with his GTRS.

This is true.

[mtbrider]

^^True..thats why I'm gonna go in a play with the timing settings. Right now I'm running the conservative OTS Uni tune, and probably its a old file since me and Mike were having issues before. Now that all of the hardware is figured out we can go back in and play with settings. I had revo before, I think with a little more timing my ar wil be completely different. Currently when I log I have 0's all the way through even when its 80 degrees outside.

[mtbrider]

I used to run revo, so I'm familar with it, and I'm far away from a T9 setting.

[A4 TSCHUSS]

im a little confused now, I just looked and the only dyno I could find was one from a different dyno than the place he dynoed with me once and then went back another time to dyno. The one that I found said about 98 octane mix with meth. I need to ask him what he did at the CFT dyno which was the one I was talking about.

What nozzle are you running with the meth? And like I said, yes you need more timing which will definitely add power earlier.

Do you have any logs of timing? What are your BTDC numbers?

[mtbrider]

I'm running a single 375. I plan on adding some more timing to this bad boy very soon. The faster the spool the better. I have some logs, let me check my BTDC numbers. I remember reading a post you wrote about this before and when I went to look at my graphs I got way too confused, haha.

[A4 TSCHUSS]

375 is the right nozzle so that is good. My BTDC numbers from block 003 were around 10-13 on T9 with REVO. So you want your timing to be around there if not more Unitronics maps may allow higher timing so you could possibly get like 16 while having very low correction factors (2s or 3s)

[mtbrider]

I never logged block 003 before it was always, 002, 011, and 020. What would be a good set of blocks to send over to Mike so we can make the right decision on how much more timing to add?

[Kerr]

Do you have a stock or stock turbo dyno sheet (doesn't have to be your car)? Is your car AWD?

[mtbrider]

I dont have a stock dyno, I'm sure there is one on the forums thou. Yes, my car is AWD.

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Nice numbers!

Now I have a target!

[Killerteve]

^^(Kerr) You can look at baselines from vendors who are trying to show dyno gains from their mods.

[mtbrider]

Nice numbers!

Now I have a target!

Haha, you will meet and exceed my numbers. I know you use a dyno dynamics so it will be a good comparison.

[AudiA4Turbo22]

CHP #'s:

-382.52HP
-347.18trq

WOOOOOOOOOW!

[Kerr]

Thanks Killerteve, I found some.

How much boost? The set up looks really nice btw, very clean.

[mtbrider]

This run was at 24lbs.

[A4TL]

yah very narrow torque curve. probably fun but man i've been there before.

can you dyno it in 1st gear? i'd like to see that just for kicks if you are renting it by the hour do a run 1 2 3 4

i'd like to see what 1st and 2nd look like.

[mtbrider]

haha, first goes by very quick

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Haha, you will meet and exceed my numbers. I know you use a dyno dynamics so it will be a good comparison.

And I have all my other dyno plots on the same unit so some comparison can be made between setups I have had.

I am going to go purely om pump so I would like to see how my setup compares to yours.

[A4 TSCHUSS]

I never logged block 003 before it was always, 002, 011, and 020. What would be a good set of blocks to send over to Mike so we can make the right decision on how much more timing to add?

011 also shows timing advance so you can use it instead of 003, you will just have water temp and intake air temp to show intercooler efficiency on 011 instead timing advance and flow at the MAF from 003.

[zemun2]

Here's stock A4 on DD in 3rd and 4th gear

[F16HTON]

Here's stock A4 on DD in 3rd and 4th gear

I think that dyno was chipped (Amir's car) it is only showing 18 percent d/t loss.

[zemun2]

I think that dyno was chipped (Amir's car) it is only showing 18 percent d/t loss.

How did you figure out 18% DTL?

[F16HTON]

Stock the A4 makes 170BHP, divide the 140WHP this car is making by 170BHP and you get 18%

[zemun2]

Stock the A4 makes 170BHP, divide the 140WHP this car is making by 170BHP and you get 18%

Thats torque, his HP is 122 and it is stock on 94 octane..

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26140

[F16HTON]

My bad...lol

29% D/T loss

[B6Lovin]

375 is the right nozzle so that is good. My BTDC numbers from block 003 were around 10-13 on T9 with REVO. So you want your timing to be around there if not more Unitronics maps may allow higher timing so you could possibly get like 16 while having very low correction factors (2s or 3s)

from waht i've seen unitronics tunes for WAY more timing than the other guys, and much more successfully. That's one of the biggest reasons i went with uni over the other options. Tapp was another one i considered

[F16HTON]

If this were the case the car would be making much more than 292WHP and very low torque

[sean1.8t]

always amazed by the numbers that are generated at the top RPM range with these setups . . . it has been said before but I'll say it again . . . it would be nice if the numbers came on earlier though. The price we pay for big turbos on small displacement cars.

you've never driven one of these setups have you?

it's REALLY nice for daily driving. so much better than the k03/k04.

[317ssayzarc]

somethings up with your spool time, its very slow... hmmm

you should be making 200wtq by 3800 at the latest, around 3600 is more realistic...

[B6Lovin]

If this were the case the car would be making much more than 292WHP and very low torque

he said himself that he has an older, conservative file. After talking with the shop/uni i made it clear that I'm aiming for some lofty HP/quarter mile goals and that i need all the help i can get to do it... We'll see how the initial runs and logging goes, see how the file adapts, and also see what further assistance mike can offer. (the man stands by his files and customers - service has been top notch thus far.)