Originally Posted by
John1.8T
The market for 2.0T B7 A4's is pretty small... despite all of the ranting on Audizine about the kits, only a handful of people will really fork over to pick one up.
The transverse mounted 2.0T in the VW GTI and A3 is more suitable for a BT due to more room in the engine bay. The demand from mkV drivers is also considerably higher. Although AWE has a prototype in a B7 A4, I would not count on it hitting the market. AWE is an excellent company and I fully support them, but I also understand the thin market they would be getting into with a B7 A4 BT kit and why we haven't seen one yet. Their prototype was introduced over a year ago...
It's hard to make a kit like this at a reasonable price. Think about how much bitching went on when the K04 kit came out from APR... $4k+ is a lot of money for most of us to throw into our cars. Don't expect a BT kit to be cheaper. It's really hard to develop a cost effective aftermarket turbo for these cars at an attractive price when the turbo is cast into the exhaust manifold.
I hate to be the devil's advocate... I'm just not getting my hopes up.
you have it ALL wrong man. all wrong.
you think that BT kits just started jumping out for the B5 and B6 guys? no. there was years of trial and error(still is actually) before there were proven, cost effective kits. and there is still new hardware and software coming out every year. people are just barely starting to build their motors and throw on GT30 and bigger turbo's on the B6. and that generation has been out for 6+ years!
integrated exhaust manifold? please. that doesn't mean 2 shits. if you're going BT, you're upgrading the manifold already. last i checked, ATP already had a cast iron exhaust manifold for the B7 block..
if you guys are really that anxious, then work on it yourselves. im sure a tuner(Revo/EPL/ASP/etc) would love to work with you.
go buy a manifold, turbo, FMIC, etc and go to a shop to have them start work on a base map. they'll work with you over the next while and in a few months time im sure you guys will have some awesome software to offer to the public. they will love this because they don't have to spend any money on a car, hardware, etc. just their time and dyno usage(or street tuning which is better anyways). then they get to reap the benefits of right to the software. this is how the B5 and B6 kits were started. it's called HOMEBREW!
and the demand will be there. it's going to take a year or more though. people need more money. this is the exact thing that happened to the B6 guys. the B5 guys had all the turbo setup's and software. and the B6 had nothing because it was new and had no demand. now the B6 has just as much, if not more, of an aftermarket demand than the B5.
and generally when people buy the latest entry level audi, they don't have too much spare cash lying around. as opposed to some rich guy that just paid cash for his RS4. or some punk kid that can buy a B5 for 4 grand and have 10 grand left over for mods.. give it time, the market will grow
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