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    are my HID colors different?

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    okay guys, this has really been bugging me... i ordered my VVME 4300k kit a few weeks ago and just recently put it in

    the bulbs to me seem a diff color....im not sure which is correct....but im getting pissed that they are SLIGHTLY off color... one looks a little yellowish and the other looks more pure white

    they were both marked as 4300k.....anyways heres some pics (sorry for the blur but you can still see what im saying)

    would something other than the bulbs affect the color slightly? or def bulbs? if it is bulbs which do you all think are which temp?

    let me know if im crazy or not:











    1998 Audi A4 1.8tQ 5 Speed
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    From your pictures, it looks as though you passenger headlight is the correct 4300k as the driver one is too blue to be 4300k.

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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    so were thinking 4300 and 5000 or 6000 on drivers side
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    I see what you mean, that sucks. I just installed my HID's. I'd be pissed if they did that.

    GM has the same problem. Nobody in the parts department(or GM parts resources) can seem to ever get that stuff straight either. When I worked next to a GM body shop I'd see one a week come out w/ one 8K and one 6K. My fav was the one that came out w/ a 4300K and a 10K on the other side.
    ...I'd call up whoever you bought them from and tell 'em what's up.
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    might be 4300k passenger 6000k driver
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    Quote Originally Posted by djwimbo View Post
    I see what you mean, that sucks. I just installed my HID's. I'd be pissed if they did that.

    GM has the same problem. Nobody in the parts department(or GM parts resources) can seem to ever get that stuff straight either. When I worked next to a GM body shop I'd see one a week come out w/ one 8K and one 6K. My fav was the one that came out w/ a 4300K and a 10K on the other side.
    ...I'd call up whoever you bought them from and tell 'em what's up.

    well they are VVME, so its china....we know how their quality control is

    but i already emailed them with pics...just want my 4300's :p
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    ugh just got their "answer" wtf now i am pissed the fuck off

    Dear customer,

    Please send the pair of bulbs back to us for exchange,or just pay $35,we'll send you a new pair asap.

    Shipping address:
    Bu Feng Ye
    Ying Qiu Yuan Building 9, 3-502
    Chao Lai Lv Se Jia Yuan, Chao Yang District.
    ZIP: 100012
    BeiJing, China
    Tel : 84954164
    Put a note in the package, write the original tracking # or your paypal email on that, and what you want us to do for you.

    You can make your payment at http://www.vvme.com/payment.jsp by paypal or credit card. both of them will be done through paypal's website. Leave your message in payment notes for us.

    Regards
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    Yea, I don't like buying chinese stuff. ... Unless we're talking about gettin some luvin.

    $35? I'd do that. My whole kit new was $200.
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    That looks like an 8000k
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    yeah , VVME kit is 67 shipped....but i dont really feel like buying new bulbs cause they fucked up....unless i can buy them, get them in the mail, swap them, and send these back for a refund

    such a pita
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stampy View Post
    That looks like an 8000k
    which side?
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    Drivers. I would just score a set of Ebay man. I have gotten the $30ish shipped stuff off ebay for years and never had any issues. Just did like 2 weeks ago actually for my A6
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stampy View Post
    Drivers. I would just score a set of Ebay man. I have gotten the $30ish shipped stuff off ebay for years and never had any issues. Just did like 2 weeks ago actually for my A6

    these ARE the ebay ones.... i just put these in like 4 days ago....im not paying 30 bucks to have them fix the error they made, what am i gonna do with 3 4300k bulbs and one 8000k??....if you guys want to pay for me though thats another story
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    I would get some quality Philips D2S bulbs, and buy H7 to D2S adaptors. You would then also have to buy some new connectors from the ballasts to the bulbs.

    These bulbs are going to be brighter off the bat, and stay brighter for longer, plus they will match perfectly!

    Although this is sort of the expensive route (~100, if you look for good deals on bulbs on ebay), but it is the route I would go.
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverstreak98 View Post
    I would get some quality Philips D2S bulbs, and buy H7 to D2S adaptors. You would then also have to buy some new connectors from the ballasts to the bulbs.

    These bulbs are going to be brighter off the bat, and stay brighter for longer, plus they will match perfectly!

    Although this is sort of the expensive route (~100, if you look for good deals on bulbs on ebay), but it is the route I would go.
    hid bulbs are all the same, theyre allllllllll made in china...probably even at the same factory
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    That is most definitely not true..........Philips, GE, and Osram OEM bulbs are NOT made in China. I know that Philips and Osram (I've owned both) makes their bulbs in Germany and that they are much higher quality than the ones you will get with a kit.

    China HID bulbs are just like their halogen bulbs.....sub par.

    I just offered my advice, its fine if you don't want to take it. I'm sure those bulbs will work perfectly fine for your use.

    I wouldn't make up crazy facts that all HID bulbs are the same though, because that is far far from the truth.
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    did you touch/scratch/hit the bulbs when you installed them?

    Any of those things COULD yield different color lighting. Ive seen it before.

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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    Quote Originally Posted by Euro View Post
    did you touch/scratch/hit the bulbs when you installed them?

    Any of those things COULD yield different color lighting. Ive seen it before.
    nah....i know it could affect lighting but it would usually just dull it right? i dont think by touching the bulb it would change it to 8000k color

    if so everyone would be doing it when they wanted to switch to anohter color from factory
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    I really don't agree with that Philips/Osram bull. As someone that has owned all the mentioned bulbs. I can honestly say that no difference is visible to me as far as bulbs go. That includes burn in color, life of bulb, deteriorating color over time, connections, etc. Ballast are a different story. I personally have never had a "China" brand ballast go bad. I could see how those could though. All HID bulbs go/dim over time. All need a 100 hours to burn in correctly.
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    This happened to my "china" ballast.



    I got a set of VVME to replace it and lights are much brighter and point higher which kind of disturb traffic as the previous kit did not.
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    Quote Originally Posted by nebone22 View Post
    This happened to my "china" ballast.



    I got a set of VVME to replace it and lights are much brighter and point higher which kind of disturb traffic as the previous kit did not.

    yo just so you know.....VVME is china ballasts and bulbs

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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    could be that your headlights are off set from eachother giving different directions of causing the color differance between the 2.

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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    Quote Originally Posted by solowb5 View Post
    could be that your headlights are off set from eachother giving different directions of causing the color differance between the 2.
    i dont see how that makes sense? no matter what direction i look at it, its still different colors

    the stop light color doesnt change depending on where you stand
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    At some points, it is better to spend some extra cash and avoid the headaches. The VVME kit is by no means a bad kit as there are many posotive feedbacks on them. And I have only read a couple bad reviews. But on this matter as it is just the bulbs that are bothering you, you should dish out some extra dough and just get some good bulbs. I am sure that Autozone or places similar has H7 HID bulbs. Might cost a hefty buck (or might not), but should be more durable for a piece of mind and your headache should be gone. Or just get the replacements from them for $35. But now you have to take shipping eta into consideration.

    Yes, that situation is not cool as it was their mistake and not yours. But sometimes, things are not worth the hastle and I dish out the extra dough to fix and take it as a lesson learned.

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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    Quote Originally Posted by Seerlah View Post
    At some points, it is better to spend some extra cash and avoid the headaches. The VVME kit is by no means a bad kit as there are many posotive feedbacks on them. And I have only read a couple bad reviews. But on this matter as it is just the bulbs that are bothering you, you should dish out some extra dough and just get some good bulbs. I am sure that Autozone or places similar has H7 HID bulbs. Might cost a hefty buck (or might not), but should be more durable for a piece of mind and your headache should be gone. Or just get the replacements from them for $35. But now you have to take shipping eta into consideration.

    Yes, that situation is not cool as it was their mistake and not yours. But sometimes, things are not worth the hastle and I dish out the extra dough to fix and take it as a lesson learned.
    yah well just say they have a good kit, and bad customer support

    i paid the 35 and will swap the wrong bulb when the new bulbs get here

    and then ill list the two remaining ones for sale on here...someone might want a back up 4300 or 8000 bulb... or both .. who knows
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    Good plan! Or maybe keep the 4300k for yourself in case one day one of the bulbs you just ordered decides to call it quits. As for the 8000k, don't know. Maybe just list that one bulb as someone may need it.

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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    After looking at the pictures more it does appear according to your low quality pictures that they 'look' different.

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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    Quote Originally Posted by solowb5 View Post
    Then I guess you don't understand spectrum. Ever notice when auto leveling headlights shift they give a different hue of light? That's bc they are angled different then your view of sight.

    Anyways after looking at the pictures more it does appear according to your low quality pictures that they 'look' different.
    actually i do in fact understand that, but instead of the light COLOR changing, when you shift the pattern of the light, the CONTRAST changes....either more or less of the same color is being displayed at different areas..... if you point the light at the ground youll have a large washout of white light, and if you point it a lot higher, you will have less white but still white..... pointing the light at the ground wont give you white, and then pointing it at the sky will turn the color to fucking red....

    they are different bulbs, weve already figured this all out....they are angled properly...the area at projection, the bulbs removed and light not in the projectors, and the pattern displayed and laid on the ground are all DIFFERENT COLORS, one is white/blue (6000 or 8000) and one is white/yellow (4300)

    i dont need your shitty responses arite?

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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    Have you tried swapping them? I know it sounds stupid. SOmetimes something weird could be going on. I would just do that to make sure that if you swapped pass/driver, the same shizzy is happening.
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stampy View Post
    Have you tried swapping them? I know it sounds stupid. SOmetimes something weird could be going on. I would just do that to make sure that if you swapped pass/driver, the same shizzy is happening.

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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    VVME seems to be doing that a lot lately. There was a thread a little while back where people were getting deffective ballasts or bulbs and the company was asking like 40 bucks or pay to ship the part back. Fuck VVMME and their terrible customer service. They don't seem to care about it either.
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    Re: are my HID colors different?

    Your drivers side looks to be too white to be 6000k but it is for sure more blue than the passenger side. Thats really weird man. Probably just a fluke at the factory. Those chinese have gigantic assembly line style factories and a 5600K bulb or something must have gotten mixed in with the 4300k bulbs and you were the unlucky one who got the bulb with your kit. Its definitely a mistake from the factory itself. Bummer man. :(
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