Audizine - An Automotive Enthusiast Community

Results 1 to 8 of 8
  1. #1
    Senior Member Three Rings
    Join Date
    Sep 23 2006
    AZ Member #
    11933
    My Garage
    2002 A4 1.8TQ 5spd
    Location
    Seattle, WA

    ATTN all gurus!! Still getting a mysterious knock code!!

    Guest-only advertisement. Register or Log In now!
    For the past couple of months I have been getting this code:

    16712 P0328
    Knock Sensor (KS) 1 -G61: High Input (sporadic)

    I have also seen the corresponding code for the other knock sensor pop up.

    What is happening is my timing correction factors on block 020 will occasionally show 8.2 degrees on all four cylinders. This happens randomly, typically while driving on the highway. The correction is ALWAYS 8.2deg, ALWAYS on all four cylinders at the same time, and it ALWAYS jumps from 0 to 8.2 with no gradient in between.

    This happens on both "stock" software and 91 octane software.

    The car has been in the shop I don't know how many times recently and the opinion is that everything is mechanically sound. The car will run fine at WOT and the logs look good.

    What has been done:

    - Both knock sensors replaced / properly torqued
    - Timing belt repaired (tensioner was almost cracked due to work from my previous shop)
    - Cam tensioner checked, looked good
    - ECU chip (APR 3+ is soldered in) connections checked, software re-flashed
    - New plugs (NGK BKR7E gapped 0.032), new air filter
    - A few typical leaks repaired (water pump, coolant flange), not really related

    This problem is really starting to drive me (and my shop) crazy. I would appreciate any kind of input as to what else we can look at next.

    This is a previous thread with more information:

    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ght=knock+code

    And here is a log of the problem:

    http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...-IYmYDRA&gid=0

    The car is a 2002 APR 3+, AWE FMIC, APR exhaust, Hitachi E coils, running Chevron 92 octane gas on 91 octane software.
    APR Stage 3+

  2. #2
    Veteran Member Four Rings dirtybrd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 21 2006
    AZ Member #
    10955
    My Garage
    Revo Tuned 2.0L w/35r
    Location
    Lakeland, FL.

    Re: ATTN all gurus!! Still getting a mysterious knock code!!

    Sounds like you may have a chaffed wire shorting it out.
    BetaAlphaTauMember#6

    I'm back bitches!

    35r and REVO...what?

  3. #3
    Senior Member Three Rings
    Join Date
    Sep 23 2006
    AZ Member #
    11933
    My Garage
    2002 A4 1.8TQ 5spd
    Location
    Seattle, WA

    Re: ATTN all gurus!! Still getting a mysterious knock code!!

    I believe they already checked for shorts on the knock sensor wiring but I will ask them to make sure.
    APR Stage 3+

  4. #4
    Senior Member Three Rings
    Join Date
    Sep 23 2006
    AZ Member #
    11933
    My Garage
    2002 A4 1.8TQ 5spd
    Location
    Seattle, WA

    Re: ATTN all gurus!! Still getting a mysterious knock code!!

    Bump for any other ideas.
    APR Stage 3+

  5. #5
    Veteran Member Four Rings CO AVANT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 12 2004
    AZ Member #
    368
    My Garage
    '03 B6 Avant, '15 B8 A4, '14 S8, '15 Duramax
    Location
    Everywhere

    Re: ATTN all gurus!! Still getting a mysterious knock code!!

    Have you tested the voltage/ohm readings through the sensor/wiring like I mentioned before?

  6. #6
    Senior Member Three Rings
    Join Date
    Sep 23 2006
    AZ Member #
    11933
    My Garage
    2002 A4 1.8TQ 5spd
    Location
    Seattle, WA

    Re: ATTN all gurus!! Still getting a mysterious knock code!!

    I am 99% sure that my shop has checked the wiring. However I will ask again when they re-open in the morning.
    APR Stage 3+

  7. #7
    Senior Member Three Rings
    Join Date
    Sep 23 2006
    AZ Member #
    11933
    My Garage
    2002 A4 1.8TQ 5spd
    Location
    Seattle, WA

    Re: ATTN all gurus!! Still getting a mysterious knock code!!

    They have checked the wiring and found no problems...
    APR Stage 3+

  8. #8
    Senior Member Three Rings
    Join Date
    Sep 23 2006
    AZ Member #
    11933
    My Garage
    2002 A4 1.8TQ 5spd
    Location
    Seattle, WA

    Re: ATTN all gurus!! Still getting a mysterious knock code!!

    So six months have passed and the problem is still happening. The car still drives fine 99% of the time, with the problem still occuring one minute and gone the next. CEL comes on steady once in a while, and after enough on/off cycles it will stop coming on.

    My shop has pretty much looked at everything mechanical / electrical they can think of. One last option that they are proposing is taking a look at my rod bearings (I had pauter rods installed by another shop a while ago).

    So is it possible that incorrect or worn down bearings could be causing some sort of vibration to set off the sensors? What would be the symptoms of bad bearings?
    APR Stage 3+

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


    © 2001-2024 Audizine, Audizine.com, and Driverzines.com
    Audizine is an independently owned and operated automotive enthusiast community and news website.
    Audi and the Audi logo(s) are copyright/trademark Audi AG. Audizine is not endorsed by or affiliated with Audi AG.