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    Senior Member Two Rings geoshu's Avatar
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    Car died yesterday, wont start ... I need HELP!!

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    So Vancouver got above 90 degrees for the first time in a half a year, so as I leave to go to the park, my car went out. I was switching into second when it just up and died, no stuttering...no noises, absolutely nothing, it just died. I tried starting it again, it starts fine, but then dies instantly.

    Now I need to get this fixed ASAP, any suggestions from anyone? BTW, its a
    '03 1.8T w/ around 78K miles.

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    Re: Car died yesterday, wont start ... I need HELP!!

    Quote Originally Posted by geoshu View Post
    So Vancouver got above 90 degrees for the first time in a half a year, so as I leave to go to the park, my car went out. I was switching into second when it just up and died, no stuttering...no noises, absolutely nothing, it just died. I tried starting it again, it starts fine, but then dies instantly.

    Now I need to get this fixed ASAP, any suggestions from anyone? BTW, its a
    '03 1.8T w/ around 78K miles.

    quick guess says fuel related... maybe the pump...

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    Senior Member Two Rings geoshu's Avatar
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    Re: Car died yesterday, wont start ... I need HELP!!

    I replaced the fuel filter 3 weeks ago, it had started making the buzzing noise. The noise went away immediately after I replaced the filter. I was hoping I wouldnt have to replace the pump. Any way for me to check if the pump is out?

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    Re: Car died yesterday, wont start ... I need HELP!!

    ummm Does it start everytime? or is it no longer starting.... I think if your pump was dead it wouldn't pump any to start the engine.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings wolfdog's Avatar
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    Re: Car died yesterday, wont start ... I need HELP!!

    When I did my fuel filter and removed the pump fuse in order to drain the pressure, I was amazed at how many times the car would start, run a few seconds, then die. Check the fuse for the fun of it. Without a CEL I tend to not overthink the issue, it may very well be your pump died.
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    12/23/09 - My car has been phenomenal to me. Runs strong. Don't think I'm ever going to sell it. Rather throw $7k into it for a refresh than buy a new A4 that has no dipstick.
    12/5/10 - 100k miles & counting!
    9/22/13 - 146k+ & running strong w/a new TB, water pump, etc.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings Pete4 1.8t's Avatar
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    Re: Car died yesterday, wont start ... I need HELP!!

    If you turn the key do you hear the fuel pump priming in the back? If you still hear that noise that is fine then. Maybe immobilizer or vacuum issue?
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    Senior Member Two Rings geoshu's Avatar
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    Re: Car died yesterday, wont start ... I need HELP!!

    When I turn on the egnition, I hear the buzz for a second or two. Is that priming? Several have told me that it could still have enough power to pump enough fuel just to start, but cannot support a constant supply of fuel.

    I called someone that had worked on all of my cars, he suggested that I have someone start the car, and when it starts to spray starting fluid in the air intake for a couple seconds. He said if the car runs when I spray it, but dies when I stop, I am not getting enough fuel and it is an issue with the fuel pump. I tried that, and exactly like he said, I sprayed for several seconds and it ran, then when i stopped, the car died, so it appears its not getting the fuel.

    I actually have everything taken apart right now, I just need to pull the old pump out and pick up a new pump tomorrow. $270.00. Plus my own labor, and I dont get home to start working on it until 8 PM daily, plus its not even at my house . I started taking everything apart an hour ago.

    Anyone here replace their pump on their own? I have been following the Bentley Manual but its still getting on my nerves. One question....the manual recommends to keep the tank below 1/4 before changing the pump to avoid gas spilling, well i filled up for $40 5 miles before I died. Is it still possible to change it with a little more than a 1/2 tank? I can contain the gas from spilling, i just dont want it to affect the quality of my install in any way.

    If this works for me, I might make a DIY because I have found absolutely nothing on doing it yourself.

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    Senior Member Two Rings geoshu's Avatar
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    Re: Car died yesterday, wont start ... I need HELP!!

    Ok, things are looking glum, I'm done for today. I will be siphoning gas out tomorrow so that i dont have to have my hands submerged in gasoline. I am also unable to remove the pump without using the recommended Fuel Pump wrench 3307.

    I will continue with this tomorrow night, any input from those that have changed a fuel pump themselves will be greatly appreciated.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings oildrpr's Avatar
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    Re: Car died yesterday, wont start ... I need HELP!!

    well. maybe i'm wayy off base here. but yesterday, my car just up and died, after running perfectly fine. it would start up, run for 2 seconds and die out..

    turns out one of my intercooler clamps broke, the silicon hose popped off the tubing, and the motor was sucking in a ton of air, thus killing it almost instantly.. check for something like that as well.. could be something easy like that..

    good luck man..

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    Veteran Member Four Rings B6Lovin's Avatar
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    Re: Car died yesterday, wont start ... I need HELP!!

    take your car to a dealer and get that shit on their bill. fuel pumps on 03's are under recall
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    Senior Member Two Rings geoshu's Avatar
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    Re: Car died yesterday, wont start ... I need HELP!!

    I called the dealeship, my VIN isnt covered in the recall. I will check the SMIC today before continuing work on the pump, thanks.

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    Senior Member Two Rings geoshu's Avatar
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    Re: Car died yesterday, wont start ... I need HELP!!

    Finally Done!!!

    Good news first...I picked up a new fuel pump, installed it on my own, and my car is running.

    Bad news...the fuel pump wasn't even the issue, my car is running again because I re-attached a hose that came loose on the stock intercooler .

    All in all, I wasted several hours, wasted $300 for a new pump, learned how to change a fuel pump, and it wasnt even the problem. BUT...my CEL went out with the new pump installed, so there is a bright side to this sad story.

    So, thanks "oildpr", you were right on, my problem wasn't fuel related but a hose issue, just like you.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings oildrpr's Avatar
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    Re: Car died yesterday, wont start ... I need HELP!!

    glad i could help.. only mentioned it because it happend to me on sunday.

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