A4/S4 owners are boost crazy!

[SFA4]

I have been observing the posts here and one thing is very clear, Audi A4/S4 owners have gone boost crazy. Every post is about boost, chipping the ecu, or new turbos they just got. You guys have gone quarter-mile mad. It reminds me of Civic owners who boost the crap out of their cars to drag race people. Are any of you concerned with turning or handling? It seems like most people here are worried about lowering their cars and straight line performance. It is a little dissapointing. I thought Audi was about more than that, but it seems very riced out compared to what I am accustomed to with most BMW enthusiasts. You can get turbos/superchargers for the e36 M3 that give over 480 hp and 460 lb.ft. of torque with over 170 mph top speeds, but very few people do this particular mod. However, it seems like this the the first thing an A4/S4 owner does.

I think I realized why BMW driving schools are always full and BMWCCA club racing is so popular compared to Audi's road course events. It is becasue every Audi owner is at the drag strip.

I actually do like the A4's/S4's. That is why I found this website, but this was just an honest observation.

[99PanozAIV]

Actually, I'm pretty happy with my new S4 Avant Tiptronic just the way it is. The only minor things I'd like to change are to get some different paddle shifters that move the lever away from the steering wheel a bit more, and a bit more upward. For tires, I'll be getting some Yokohama Advan S4 tires, which make more sense for the driving I do, when the OEMs wear out.

I feel like I'm getting a miss at around 2,000 rpm though and wonder if, like so many others here, I have a defective coil. Might be nice if there were some good aftermarket coils.

[VTAudiA4]

SFA4,
Please put on your flame suit. Im going to be kind and not give a rebuttal to your statement. Although it is your opinion, I must say that you are wrong.

[SFA4]

SFA4,
Please put on your flame suit. Im going to be kind and not give a rebuttal to your statement. Although it is your opinion, I must say that you are wrong.

Search the post titles in the A4/S4 forum before you make that statement, I did. Every other post is about boost, rims or ecu chips, seriously.

[Monizzle]

Well since you obviously don't know about Audi's and their tuning potential I'm not going to bash you. All I'm going to say is that ecu upgrade is the most bang for the buck in getting our little piggies up and on their feet.
And so what, when I goto BMW forums the air of implied or directly stated superiority sickens me. I love BMW, but for the most part the owners on the forums have their heads up their asses so I tend to stay away. I can easily link you to the many topics.
And yeah, a lot of Audi guys want more power, but that's only because we have to compensate for the weight of AWD, or the already underpowered 1.8t (the 2.0t guys got decent power to weight ratio). That and the majority of people don't track in general (whether it be BMW or Audi), so straight line performance and show is important to the majority of us (most of us already have quattro so handling is a given).

[yoogene83]

simple. audi's come turbo'd from the factory, that's why modding a turbo car is that much easier to do and why you see so much about it.

go to a 335 forum, all you'll see are threads about chipping/boosting/drag-racing.

[JMG]

Im not sure the Audi community is any more into drag and boost as BMW, but it is prevalent. Honestly it's because drag is cheaper and requires less skill and tuning. That makes it more accessible especially if you consider more people would scratch their shiny 19s if they get off the track on a road course, whereas getting off track on a drag is not common.

[Grassmonkey]

I got a good story about the thirst for boost.

So the other day I drove into a gas station and there was a B5 RS4. So after filling up the car we got into conversation. Onto the topic about boost and I say I've got mine at 1.2 bar and he says thats what he now has after too many software issues at 1.3-1.4bar. He's like yeah it had 630hp at 1.~ but now only 603chp at 1.2 bar. RS6 turbos...

THe point being the 2.7TT is glutton for boost. Thats why its all about turbo's.

PS. nice car JMG

[Tiesto]

Quit being such an arrogant asshole, the ones who can afford a BMW with turbos are just as boost crazy if not worse (find me a 335 that ISN'T chipped). Oh and as far as handling goes Quattro > RWD

[SFA4]

Quit being such an arrogant asshole, the ones who can afford a BMW with turbos are just as boost crazy if not worse (find me a 335 that ISN'T chipped). Oh and as far as handling goes Quattro > RWD

You are a douche bag.

I am not being arrogant. I am just stating what I see on this forum. There is a lot of drag racing talk, photos of new turbos that people just bought, tons of boost posts, and stories about highly modded Audi's out accelerating cars that stock for stock would eat them up.

I find it very funny and rice car-ish when people take a car, mod the crap out of it and then post kill stories and talk about how fast it is. Too funny.

Oh, and as far and handling and vehicle dynaics goes BMW is superior to Audi. Quattro is great in the snow and rain though.

[Tiesto]

You are a douche bag.

I am not being arrogant. I am just stating what I see on this forum. There is a lot of drag racing talk, photos of new turbos that people just bought, tons of boost posts, and stories about highly modded Audi's out accelerating cars that stock for stock would eat them up.

I find it very funny and rice car-ish when people take a car, mod the crap out of it and then post kill stories and talk about how fast it is. Too funny.

The same shit goes on at the BMW forums, you're one to talk asshole. I can't stand it when people come to a forum just to talk shit especially when they're such fucking hypocrits as Bimmer fanboys are the WORST offenders posting "kill stories" and driving like idiots. Find something better to do with your time, loser.

[VTAudiA4]

You really dont know what you are talking about. You are missintepretting everything and you didn't even listen to what the guys above stated. This guy should be banned. You can go back to your BMW's which are clearly not riced and boosted.

[SFA4]

The same shit goes on at the BMW forums, you're one to talk asshole. I can't stand it when people come to a forum just to talk shit especially when they're such fucking hypocrits as Bimmer fanboys are the WORST offenders posting "kill stories" and driving like idiots. Find something better to do with your time, loser.

Lay off the roids!

I have never posted a "kill story" in my life. I would call out a bimmer guy for doing so as well. I like Audi in general, especially the A4/S4's. I was just making a statement. I guess you couldn't handle that.

[SFA4]

You really dont know what you are talking about. You are missintepretting everything and you didn't even listen to what the guys above stated. This guy should be banned. You can go back to your BMW's which are clearly not riced and boosted.

That is funny. That car looks horrible. I know BMW's get riced out too. I am not misinterpreting what everyone is saying. You or Tiesto just havn't made very good points, that's all. Others have.

[ILoveT]

So you are upset because people are modding THEIR cars in a way you don't like?

Or are you just angry because they aren't modding the correct parts of their car in a fashion that you like?

You don't own our cars. When you do, come back and tell us how to mod them.

[dsq]

It seems like most people here are worried about lowering their cars and straight line performance. It is a little dissapointing.

audi owners are not just concered with lowering our cars, we are concerned with how lowering our cars can affect our performance and daily driving. i'm sure bmw owners like to lower their cars as much as audi owners. i don't know where you got your observation about only worrying about straight line performance, we drive audi's because we know quattro improves handling

I thought Audi was about more than that, but it seems very riced out compared to what I am accustomed to with most BMW enthusiasts. You can get turbos/superchargers for the e36 M3 that give over 480 hp and 460 lb.ft. of torque with over 170 mph top speeds, but very few people do this particular mod. However, it seems like this the the first thing an A4/S4 owner does.

your definition of riced out is wrong. increasing horsepower and torque does not mean riced out. very few bmw owners do the turbo/supercharger route because it's a relatively expensive mod compared to increasing boost on our 1.8/2.0t.

[Tiesto]

This thread is worthless and the OP is just a troll looking to start trouble.

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Well short of upgrading my suspension to metal components from CPP there isn't much more I can do to the handling of my ride and I've never taken my car down a 1/4 mile.

Now I want to add enough power to hunt down M3s on the track in the dry as well as in the wet.

[[email protected]]

Quit being such an arrogant asshole, the ones who can afford a BMW with turbos are just as boost crazy if not worse (find me a 335 that ISN'T chipped). Oh and as far as handling goes Quattro > RWD

I think the BMW is probably the best handling car one can buy right out of a showroom.

[SeKKeY]

So you are upset because people are modding THEIR cars in a way you don't like?

Or are you just angry because they aren't modding the correct parts of their car in a fashion that you like?

You don't own our cars. When you do, come back and tell us how to mod them.

x2 fasho

[SFA4]

I am not upset with anything and I am not trying to tell anyone how to mod their cars. I was just making an observation that many of the performance oriented mod posts were boost increases. I can understand that though on some Audi's that were originally turbo charged from the factory. I was just trying to point out that there is a big emphasis on quarter-mile times in most A4/S4 forums here as opposed to many of the BMW boards. That was really it. There is a big emphasis on straight line racing here plain and simple. I am not trying to offend anyone, but that is obvious. I was a little surprised by that. That was my point, not bashing Audi.

I also know that quattro is an improvement in handling over a 2-wheel drive Audi, but not necessarily over a rear-wheel drive bimmer. I know they are good in the snow and rain though.

[CARTEL]

FWIW, most of us that are "boost crazy" have already changed and tuned our suspension to the limits. In one month you can do (which I did) end links, Ohlins coilovers, Swaybars, center differential and rear differential. Suspension upgrades are fairly easy and a pretty normal bolt on upgrade. Luckily, the companies that offer these products have made them so well that my car is highly over built for the street as it is!

Conversely, my engine build has taken almost a year to complete. Fabricating new parts like fuel rails, tubular exhaust manifolds, intakes and writing software takes a long time to perfect. Its not per say, some bolt on coilovers that you buy right off the shelf... Hence, you won't see a million threads on them; it's pretty standard to understand.

The point I'm trying to make is this: Handling, at least for mostly daily driven cars like the ones on this board, are an easy upgrade. The technology has been done for us, and their are enough products on the market to meet any daily drivers/ weekend track racers needs.

Turbo upgrades on the other hand are constantly evolving. There are always bigger turbos, more displacement methods, stronger internals, etc. that come available to us. Unfortunately, however, the market is somewhat small for these upgrades, so its up to communities like these to test and refine these kits. There are so many boost/ecu/turbo threads because we are constantly sharing knowledge, asking for advice and letting eachother in on new developments.


Believe me, take a good look on the people posting these threads and I can guarantee you that most of the time they have already completed a slew of suspension and handling upgrades to their cars.

Also, if you want some good handling threads, look up the member "JetJocky". He is probably leading the forefront for handling.

Cheers dude,

-Tony

[MikeWasHere05]

FWIW, most of us that are "boost crazy" have already changed and tuned our suspension to the limits. In one month you can do (which I did) end links, Ohlins coilovers, Swaybars, center differential and rear differential. Suspension upgrades are fairly easy and a pretty normal bolt on upgrade. Luckily, the companies that offer these products have made them so well that my car is highly over built for the street as it is!

Conversely, my engine build has taken almost a year to complete. Fabricating new parts like fuel rails, tubular exhaust manifolds, intakes and writing software takes a long time to perfect. Its not per say, some bolt on coilovers that you buy right off the shelf... Hence, you won't see a million threads on them; it's pretty standard to understand.

The point I'm trying to make is this: Handling, at least for mostly daily driven cars like the ones on this board, are an easy upgrade. The technology has been done for us, and their are enough products on the market to meet any daily drivers/ weekend track racers needs.

Turbo upgrades on the other hand are constantly evolving. There are always bigger turbos, more displacement methods, stronger internals, etc. that come available to us. Unfortunately, however, the market is somewhat small for these upgrades, so its up to communities like these to test and refine these kits. There are so many boost/ecu/turbo threads because we are constantly sharing knowledge, asking for advice and letting eachother in on new developments.


Believe me, take a good look on the people posting these threads and I can guarantee you that most of the time they have already completed a slew of suspension and handling upgrades to their cars.

Also, if you want some good handling threads, look up the member "JetJocky". He is probably leading the forefront for handling.

Cheers dude,

-Tony

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[SFA4]

FWIW, most of us that are "boost crazy" have already changed and tuned our suspension to the limits. In one month you can do (which I did) end links, Ohlins coilovers, Swaybars, center differential and rear differential. Suspension upgrades are fairly easy and a pretty normal bolt on upgrade. Luckily, the companies that offer these products have made them so well that my car is highly over built for the street as it is!

Conversely, my engine build has taken almost a year to complete. Fabricating new parts like fuel rails, tubular exhaust manifolds, intakes and writing software takes a long time to perfect. Its not per say, some bolt on coilovers that you buy right off the shelf... Hence, you won't see a million threads on them; it's pretty standard to understand.

The point I'm trying to make is this: Handling, at least for mostly daily driven cars like the ones on this board, are an easy upgrade. The technology has been done for us, and their are enough products on the market to meet any daily drivers/ weekend track racers needs.

Turbo upgrades on the other hand are constantly evolving. There are always bigger turbos, more displacement methods, stronger internals, etc. that come available to us. Unfortunately, however, the market is somewhat small for these upgrades, so its up to communities like these to test and refine these kits. There are so many boost/ecu/turbo threads because we are constantly sharing knowledge, asking for advice and letting eachother in on new developments.


Believe me, take a good look on the people posting these threads and I can guarantee you that most of the time they have already completed a slew of suspension and handling upgrades to their cars.

Also, if you want some good handling threads, look up the member "JetJocky". He is probably leading the forefront for handling.

Cheers dude,

-Tony

Thanks Tony! I was just curious about what I was seeing here and I was really looking for opinions on it. I can appreciate the way you chose to go about responding. You could have easily gone down the path some other members chose.

[golovemd]

I am not upset with anything and I am not trying to tell anyone how to mod their cars. I was just making an observation that many of the performance oriented mod posts were boost increases. I can understand that though on some Audi's that were originally turbo charged from the factory. I was just trying to point out that there is a big emphasis on quarter-mile times in most A4/S4 forums here as opposed to many of the BMW boards. That was really it. There is a big emphasis on straight line racing here plain and simple. I am not trying to offend anyone, but that is obvious. I was a little surprised by that. That was my point, not bashing Audi.

Herein lies your problem:

I have been observing the posts here and one thing is very clear, Audi A4/S4 owners have gone boost crazy. Every post is about boost, chipping the ecu, or new turbos they just got. You guys have gone quarter-mile mad.

You come into a forum and say ALL, not some.

Furthermore, you are missing the point that people a lot of the time will also mod according to what they can afford or slowly build up how much they wish to spend. Doing suspension, like it or not, is a lot pricier then a $600 chip that on a 2.7t will give you something like 60 extra hp and 100 ft/lb. It's not necessarily a mod to compete on a drag strip. I am sure that 99% of the people here, or on ANY forum do not mod their cars for the strip, but just for everyday driving. My car is 100% stock. I purchased a set of larger rims and tires, some rubber floor mats, might throw some tint on. I MIGHT get a chip just cause it is such an easy and quick mod, but really haven't decided yet. My final thing to say is that I can not figure out how you can say you do not show arrogance. You may not mean to, but it is certainly reading that way.

[Silver streak]

Thats strange that you think all of us are obsessed with our turbos. Most audi guys I know on the forum our obsessed with the whole car, take one look at my signature and you can see the only thing I did to my car that had to do with boost is the chip, many many other mods done, and a hell of a lot of money spent on other things rather then turbos. Of course my next big purchase will be bigger turbos and the fact you say thats all you can find on Audi forums is postings about turbos and boost is great for people like me that need allot of info before dropping some serious coin on such a complex mod, with so many different choices. Would also like to note never taken car to the 1/4 mile, and I do track my car. One reason why allot do 1/4 mile there ride is that once turbo upgrades are done, and you want a real idea of power, 1/4 mile times really help in determining that since dynos vary so much. I guess with out turbos you guys on the BMW forms probably don't have too much to talk about.

[SFA4]

Herein lies your problem:


You come into a forum and say ALL, not some.

Furthermore, you are missing the point that people a lot of the time will also mod according to what they can afford or slowly build up how much they wish to spend. Doing suspension, like it or not, is a lot pricier then a $600 chip that on a 2.7t will give you something like 60 extra hp and 100 ft/lb. It's not necessarily a mod to compete on a drag strip. I am sure that 99% of the people here, or on ANY forum do not mod their cars for the strip, but just for everyday driving. My car is 100% stock. I purchased a set of larger rims and tires, some rubber floor mats, might throw some tint on. I MIGHT get a chip just cause it is such an easy and quick mod, but really haven't decided yet. My final thing to say is that I can not figure out how you can say you do not show arrogance. You may not mean to, but it is certainly reading that way.

I didn't count the number of post/comments on boost, street racing, drag racing, kill stories, posts of "launch videos in a parking lot", stories about "you want to race my stage 3 B5 S4", guys drag racing M5's with motorcycles, etc. You are right though not all of the post are about that stuff. I already said I understand the turbo thing. I just have not seen such an obsession with quarter mile times and drag racing (streeet or track) since my friend had a Mustang Cobra in the 90's. It was simply a comment and something that stood out to a person on the outside looking in. Like it or not.

[ILoveT]

Hey I'm new here.

How much PSI's can I run on my stock engine. I IS BOOSTZ CRAZY!

[A4 JooN 2.0T]

i need a bigger turbo so i can drag can anyone help??? i hope the bimmer guy "observes" this and gives me the info i need.....

[exorcet]

I am not being arrogant. I am just stating what I see on this forum. There is a lot of drag racing talk, photos of new turbos that people just bought, tons of boost posts, and stories about highly modded Audi's out accelerating cars that stock for stock would eat them up.

Oh no! People talking about upgrading their cars on an enthusiast forum! Makes no sense!

[looseboost]

I was just making an observation that many of the performance oriented mod posts were boost increases.

Why not?
when you can pay 500$ for a chip that basically transforms the car


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