*** 034 Motorsport 400+Hp kit - 4200US SHIPPED! ***

[Wizard-of-OD]

034 Motorsport is now selling complete Eliminator turbo kits with Unitronic BT software, 3" MAF housing, and Genesis 415CC injectors at a package price.

This is bolt in turbo kit, using a genuine Garrett CHRA in a custom KKK exhaust housing. Includes all installation accessories, instructions, etc to be a direct fit power solution for any longitudinal mount 1.8T A4/Passat.

The GTRS Eliminator is capable of producing 350 crank horsepower. We also offer an option to upgrade to the GT2871R Eliminator, which flows enough for 400 crank horsepower.

Always wanted "blow the doors off an S4" power for A4 money? This kit is definitely for you.

Option - Include a high flow exhaust manifold, silicone inlet hose, test pipe, or intercooler with this kit and save even more! Any product added on this page will be shipped free of charge. Choose options below.

* Please Note: Specify B5 or B6, as well as your engine code, when ordering.

** Please Note: Your ECU must be sent in to be tuned. Return shipping from Unitronic is included in the price of the kit.







PRICE = $2840US + Shipping!!

Available options:
B5 Intercooler Kit: +880
Catless Downpipe: +150
GT2871 Upgrade (400hp): +$99
High Flow Exhaust Manifold: +$315.00
Silicone Turbo Inlet Hose: +$325.00

TOTAL RETAIL = $4609

Buy the entire combination for : 4200US SHIPPED and use the 450US+ saved to buy the Mrs. a lovely diamond necklass.
Please send me a PM when you are ready to order.

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Who wants to play Catch me?

[MikTip]

Is there a brace or support for the larger turbo?

To help prevent the exhaust manifold from cracking?

[A4TL]

so this will smoke a chipped S4? or V-8 S4? which one

[A4 TSCHUSS]

The kit is only using 415cc injectors or is that a typo? I honestly have never looked at what the injectors are running at but others have said a bigger injector 430 or 440 is running at 100%? O and what are the dimensions on the intercooler? I guess I will go look on the site and see if they are there.

[F16HTON]

so this will smoke a chipped S4? or V-8 S4? which one

Both, chipped B5 TT S4 and a chipped B6 S4

[aaron1085]

more info on this..

[Maverick]

Eurocode is already over $200 less than you, no group buy needed

thank you Issam anyway for putting this up

[audipotential]

Eurocode is already over $200 less than you, no group buy needed

thank you Issam anyway for putting this up

Ouch eh...

[mxrz]

Shame, it should be 200$ cheaper, plus why is the return shipping included in the price, I would be wasting money, given Unitronic is a stone throw away from where I live, I can drive down there and get flashed without taking out my ECU.

[DELUX]

Unfortunately too little... too late :(

I was hoping that by now there'd be some better low lag options available for the 1.8T. Something with the lag characteristics of a K03/K04 yet the power of a GT28XX/GTRS. I figured somebody with some engineering resources would come up with something eventually but it seems that these eliminator kits and laggy GT2871 setups are all that is ever gonna come along for our dinky motors

No offense to 034, I order from them all the time, I was just hoping that they'd finally bring us something NEW.

[infernocl]

GT28R is the closest sized turbo to what you're asking for. maybe a GT2560R spools a little faster with 300hp but no programming for that.

[ehfour]

Unfortunately too little... too late :(

I was hoping that by now there'd be some better low lag options available for the 1.8T. Something with the lag characteristics of a K03/K04 yet the power of a GT28XX/GTRS. I figured somebody with some engineering resources would come up with something eventually but it seems that these eliminator kits and laggy GT2871 setups are all that is ever gonna come along for our dinky motors
No offense to 034, I order from them all the time, I was just hoping that they'd finally bring us something NEW.

When do these Elim hit max boost?

From most of the stuff that I "Read" over the internet, wouldnt 10-15 PSI on a larger turbo be faster than a K03 at 20psi?

I could be wrong

[martini]

When do these Elim hit max boost?

From most of the stuff that I "Read" over the internet, wouldnt 10-15 PSI on a larger turbo be faster than a K03 at 20psi?

I could be wrong

all things being equal, 15psi is 15psi ....doesnt matter what turbo its coming from...

what matters is what RPM the turbo it is hitting it at and how long it can hold it.


the question you ask is too vague to answer.

[JBM]

man...I thought 034 was coming out with something new. well time to start over. jeez.

[Groove1797]

all things being equal, 15psi is 15psi ....doesnt matter what turbo its coming from...

what matters is what RPM the turbo it is hitting it at and how long it can hold it.


the question you ask is too vague to answer.

A gt28rs, gt28r will flow more than a ko4 at 15 psi champ

[RLB6]

Incorrect. The difference is in the volume of air that's being pushed with that 15 PSI of pressure. Pressure and volume are 2 different things. A GTRS pushing 15PSI will produce more power than a K03 pushing 15 PSI because the GTRS will not only be pushing more volume of air but it will also be alot denser.

all things being equal, 15psi is 15psi ....doesnt matter what turbo its coming from...

[dougyfresh]

Wow. What a bunch of cry-babies in this thread. 034 has put together a kit to sell. Perhaps some of the kit is the same as other items on the market but there are still aspects of this kit that are different than the rest. You should be thankful there is another option.


Why does everyone bitch about prices on this forum? The price is what the price is. You can not do modifications that gain more than double the factory horsepower and spend a few hundred dollars in doing so. "You have to pay to play." Get over it!

[sonic]

last time i checked 1 = 1. 15PSI is 15PSI regardless of what is producing it. Like martini said, its how soon it can reach 15 and how long it can hold it.

Its like doing a strait swap on the k03 to a k04 with no flash...it just spools sooner. its still running the same psi.

[Wizard-of-OD]

Is there a brace or support for the larger turbo?
To help prevent the exhaust manifold from cracking?

We offer a warranty on the manifolds if they do crack.

so this will smoke a chipped S4? or V-8 S4? which one

Both

Eurocode is already over $200 less than you, no group buy needed

We use different software and we are not Eurocode.

man...I thought 034 was coming out with something new. well time to start over. jeez.

We are ....Trust me,you are going to want to hold tight.The biggest market right now is the "bolt on" guys.The guys like you and me that want 500whp are going to be very pleased with what is coming out

1 down...4 more to go.

[Silence]

last time i checked 1 = 1. 15PSI is 15PSI regardless of what is producing it. Like martini said, its how soon it can reach 15 and how long it can hold it.

Its like doing a strait swap on the k03 to a k04 with no flash...it just spools sooner. its still running the same psi.

Yes psi is psi...a pressure measurement. Turbos however are rated in cfms, which at 15 psi on a k04, and 15 psi on a gt3071r, are totally different. THe gt30 will make probably 100whp more than the k04, even at 15psi.

[dirtybrd]

Pressure is pressure, but the volume is what varies.

[actlsub9]

15PSI is 15PSI regardless of what is producing it.

Correct it does not matter what is pushing it. Its the rpm that matters, 15 psi at 3000rpm is the same as 15 psi at 3000rpm. But since most of the larger turbos hit boost later... 15psi at 3000rpm does not equal 15psi at 6000rpm. Twice as much air is needed to hit 15 psi at 6000rpm then 15psi at 3000rpm. If you have twice as much air going into an engine... you can figure the rest.

[martini]

Incorrect. The difference is in the volume of air that's being pushed with that 15 PSI of pressure. Pressure and volume are 2 different things. A GTRS pushing 15PSI will produce more power than a K03 pushing 15 PSI because the GTRS will not only be pushing more volume of air but it will also be alot denser.

at equal engine speeds (or steady state) the volume the air can fill is the same... the volume is governed by the intake manifold, etc. ... hence the 'all things being equal' portion of my statement.... this basically the ideal gas law...

if we assume the temperature of the air is equal for both turbos, and the volume the air can fill is the same (you didnt change the manifold), and the pressure is measured at the same spot (i.e. in the manifold that has not changed.... then the pressure is directly proportional to the mass of air...

as far as i can see, a big turbo pushing 15psi in the same volume (read: manifold) is pushing the same amount of air mass.

now there is probably a flaw in over-simplification, and treating this as a closed system instead of an open system.... and equal temperatures for the two turbos may be an even bigger hole.... but i would think this is directionally correct...

big turbos get their win by putting out that pressure (or higher pressures) through larger engine RPM ranges. The engine itself is more powerful at higher RPM's. So when the turbo is supplying 20psi of air at this higher engine rpms (where the smaller turbo would fall off), you see significant gains.





the more I think about it.... i bet just looking at IAT's for two turbos at the same 'psi' reading will tell all the tale.... if the BT is actually flowing that much more air, and the pressure is the same, and the volume is the same.... then we would surely see it in IAT's.

[47Ronin]

I'm down - but i just got a $200 speedign ticket today ... so i guess im $200 short haha

[A4ringedONE8T]

at equal engine speeds (or steady state) the volume the air can fill is the same... the volume is governed by the intake manifold, etc. ... hence the 'all things being equal' portion of my statement.... this basically the ideal gas law...

if we assume the temperature of the air is equal for both turbos, and the volume the air can fill is the same (you didnt change the manifold), and the pressure is measured at the same spot (i.e. in the manifold that has not changed.... then the pressure is directly proportional to the mass of air...

as far as i can see, a big turbo pushing 15psi in the same volume (read: manifold) is pushing the same amount of air mass.

now there is probably a flaw in over-simplification, and treating this as a closed system instead of an open system.... and equal temperatures for the two turbos may be an even bigger hole.... but i would think this is directionally correct...

big turbos get their win by putting out that pressure (or higher pressures) through larger engine RPM ranges. The engine itself is more powerful at higher RPM's. So when the turbo is supplying 20psi of air at this higher engine rpms (where the smaller turbo would fall off), you see significant gains.

the more I think about it.... i bet just looking at IAT's for two turbos at the same 'psi' reading will tell all the tale.... if the BT is actually flowing that much more air, and the pressure is the same, and the volume is the same.... then we would surely see it in IAT's.

What are some of you talking about ... 15psi is not 15psi between different turbo's. A GTRS for example can make the same power/rpm as a K03/K04 on WAY lower boost. Pick an RPM where both turbo's can make 15psi. I would say 3500 as a K03/K04 is dying yet and a GTRS is just getting started. 15psi on a K03/K04 @ 3600 is going to be UNDER 200whp, 15psi on a GTRS @ 3600 will be OVER 200whp. Is that the same?

[Wizard-of-OD]

I'm down - but i just got a $200 speedign ticket today ... so i guess im $200 short haha

Dont pay it

[47Ronin]

ROFL Funny - actually it was liek $130 + fees so it was 160'ish

WHere are you guys anyway? Hook me up with a slight discount :D

[actlsub9]

15psi on a GTRS @ 3600 will be OVER 200whp. Is that the same?

I'm having trouble finding a dyno of over 200whp at 3600 with a GTRS, care to show me one?

[47Ronin]

Let me open up MS paint

[47Ronin]

Hey greg - question ... does that blinder laser jammer thing work well? How much is it and where'd u get it

[vinny.dtw]

I use and learned from the straw analogy.

Think straw and 3 inch pipe, move 15psi of air through a straw and a 3 inch pipe...what is flowing more air into the engine? Obviously the 3 inch pipe, plus its working at a much better efficiency rate then the little straw.

[A4ringedONE8T]

I'm having trouble finding a dyno of over 200whp at 3600 with a GTRS, care to show me one?

My GTRS dyno doesnt have RPM on it but that was reving to 6500, I would say easily 240-250whp @ 3600 as my setup used to peak right around 4k

[actlsub9]

My GTRS dyno doesnt have RPM on it but that was reving to 6500, I would say easily 240-250whp @ 3600 as my setup used to peak right around 4k

C'mon man, I know you are smarter then that. 250whp @3600rpm on your car... don't think so.

FYI: 250whp at 3600 = 365wtq at that same RPM

[mike-2ptzero]

When do these Elim hit max boost?

From most of the stuff that I "Read" over the internet, wouldnt 10-15 PSI on a larger turbo be faster than a K03 at 20psi?

I could be wrong

Yes a Elim kit pushing just 10-15psi will be faster then a K03 at 20psi since the GTRS flows more air (CFM) at the same boost pressure.

[martini]

What are some of you talking about ... 15psi is not 15psi between different turbo's. A GTRS for example can make the same power/rpm as a K03/K04 on WAY lower boost. Pick an RPM where both turbo's can make 15psi. I would say 3500 as a K03/K04 is dying yet and a GTRS is just getting started. 15psi on a K03/K04 @ 3600 is going to be UNDER 200whp, 15psi on a GTRS @ 3600 will be OVER 200whp. Is that the same?

with the assumptions I made, it would be the same by definition. however, like I said, it would probably be a poor assumption to say the temps were the same. if temps were not the same, then certainly you could have a higher mass airflow at the same pressure - higher airflow would lead to more power. the fact of the matter is that the pressure is only a small fraction of the story.


regardless, this is probably a poor thread choice for this discussion.... this should be a discussion on the 034 offering.

[martini]

I use and learned from the straw analogy.

Think straw and 3 inch pipe, move 15psi of air through a straw and a 3 inch pipe...what is flowing more air into the engine? Obviously the 3 inch pipe, plus its working at a much better efficiency rate then the little straw.

there is no change in pipe diamteter... i.e the manifodl

[A4ringedONE8T]

C'mon man, I know you are smarter then that. 250whp @3600rpm on your car... don't think so.

FYI: 250whp at 3600 = 365wtq at that same RPM

What? My peak power was right around 4k so your saying I had less than 200whp @ 3600 and 298 @ 4k ...

[Wizard-of-OD]

2 pending sale...
3 more to go!

p.s. love the discussion but do not want to get involved because half of you wont like my reply.

[martini]

Yes a Elim kit pushing just 10-15psi will be faster then a K03 at 20psi since the GTRS flows more air (CFM) at the same boost pressure.

what would the IAT difference between the two be... .. or what would you expect?

[A4 TSCHUSS]

I don't feel like arguing but I will give you 2 of my dyno graphs if they help at all. I don't think it will as far as comparing psi though since I can't tell you what the psi was at what rpm, just that 20psi and above is at 3900-4100rpm range. I think at 3500rpm I would be at like 12-15psi. Also 1st graph is on N75 and 2nd is on a manual boost controller which spools the turbo a little faster but on that graph I had boost trouble and only peaked at 20 and held 18 so it wouldnt be quite as fast of a ramp up on boost.