Non-Aggressive Springs with Sport Suspension?

[n7plus1]

I honestly dont feel like sifting through pages of threads anymore trying to find what im looking for. Im looking for a slight drop to get rid of some more wheel gap on the sport suspension. I dont want anything drastic. I was thinking Tein H-Techs, but i couldnt find any pics and they only have pics of S-Techs on their site. Hopefully some of you can help me. Thanks!

[AudiAdi]

Eibach

[jcg05c]

Eibach you wont even be able to tell Im pretty sure. Im in the same situtation. My buddy had Eibach with non sport suspension and it lowered his car and looked almost exactly like my sport suspension. Then he got H&R spring and it gave him the drop he wanted and I want also. Not sure what type of H&R though.

[mxrz]

Eibach Pro-Kit is about equivalent in drop to an 02' sport suspension. However the ride with stock dampeners sucks, too much oscillation.

[n7plus1]

ok, so H&R so far...but which model?

[jcg05c]

I have 19in wheels and so did the other guy. The line of the wheel well should sit right at the top of the tire and thats the look i want. But havent talked to him lately to find out what style. I want good ride comfort too. I have neuspeed on my jetta and the ride wasnt good at all. So i want to make sure i get a good ride too.

[Carbon]

h&r sport is what you want

[Siggiepop]

wouldn't H/R sport springs on a non sport damage the shocks later on.

[Carbon]

he has the sport suspension

[mrleftlane]

I yanked the sport springs and went with H&R Race springs and the stock sport shocks and ride on 19" rims. I got minor rubbing due to major dips in the road and not bumps or potholes, but the rubbing disappeared after i got an alignment. (I only hear it once since the alignment and you should have SEEN that dip in the road).

I'll take a quick pic for you tonight to answer your question but it might be dark by the time i leave the gym so forgive me.

[pondside36]

^^^ the wheel size won't be a factor if you have the correct tire size that maintains OEM overall diameter you'll just have more sidwall with an 18, 17, or the stock 16. There is a picture of the H&R Sport on a B6 on the AWE site, looks just about the sport hieght. I found this from ECS

Model Lowering Vs. Stock Stiffness Vs. Stock
OE Sport Springs .25-.75" lower 15-20%
H&R Sport Springs 1-1.75" lower 25-30%
H&R Race Spring 1.75-2.5" lower 50-100%

[velocipedio]

he has the sport suspension

So what. It's going to ride like garbage. Pairing springs and shocks together that weren't designed for each other never works out.

Not to mention, if you are lowering the car and not increasing stifness, the car is going to handle much worse than when stock. Many aftermarket springs are often softer than stock.

Looks over performance, I guess.

[mrleftlane]

Forgot that my Blackberry now has a camera on it...forgive the dirt

[n7plus1]

thanks guys...im not trying to lower it dramatically...so the ride shouldnt be too bad...and i just have the oem sport wheels anyway

[mrleftlane]

can't picture you getting rubbing then as the stock wheels are more narrow than aftermarket. (If I'm wrong, grab a fire extinguisher and put me out after the angry mob flames me)

[jcg05c]

So what. It's going to ride like garbage. Pairing springs and shocks together that weren't designed for each other never works out.

Not to mention, if you are lowering the car and not increasing stifness, the car is going to handle much worse than when stock. Many aftermarket springs are often softer than stock.

Looks over performance, I guess.

The ride isnt that bad. Im pretty sure the ride starts getting bad when the shocks are starting to go. Depending on what type of springs you go with. H&R sport spring is not a huge difference in height, as if you were to put on nuespeed spring which drops it alot.

[n7plus1]

anyone else have suggestions?

[velocipedio]

The ride isnt that bad. Im pretty sure the ride starts getting bad when the shocks are starting to go. Depending on what type of springs you go with. H&R sport spring is not a huge difference in height, as if you were to put on nuespeed spring which drops it alot.

Perhaps "garbage" was too strong.

I never will understand why people haphazardly throw new suspension parts on Audis just to achieve some look. The sport suspension is already plenty low, and the cars handle really well stock. Throwing new springs on is going to degrade handling--the H&Rs are too soft and the stock sport dampers aren't set up for them.

The only way to improve handling is by doing it right with corner balanced coil overs or another properly tested and matched setup, not mix and matching random aftermarket components.

[jcg05c]

Fair enough. But im not looking to race my car and drive like a crazy person around turns. So ya im just going for look really.

[doublezero30]

Perhaps "garbage" was too strong.

I never will understand why people haphazardly throw new suspension parts on Audis just to achieve some look. The sport suspension is already plenty low, and the cars handle really well stock. Throwing new springs on is going to degrade handling--the H&Rs are too soft and the stock sport dampers aren't set up for them.

The only way to improve handling is by doing it right with corner balanced coil overs or another properly tested and matched setup, not mix and matching random aftermarket components.

i have never seen one review of someone upgrading from stock suspension(sport or not) and complaining about the 'random components' that they 'mixed and matched' to be worse than stock. every review ive ever seen has be excitement about better handling. sure cornerbalancing is the 100% correct way to do it...IF you plan on doing autoX with your car. the majority of us on here have these cars as dailey drivers and dont really intend to do that stuff. sure we like to go fast, and hit the onramps hard...but we can achieve better than what we want with shocks and springs + sway bars. for a reall autoX-er, shocks and springs=bad. but for an everyday audiziner theyre perfectly fine.

[02B6]

I yanked the sport springs and went with H&R Race springs and the stock sport shocks and ride on 19" rims. I got minor rubbing due to major dips in the road and not bumps or potholes, but the rubbing disappeared after i got an alignment. (I only hear it once since the alignment and you should have SEEN that dip in the road).

I'll take a quick pic for you tonight to answer your question but it might be dark by the time i leave the gym so forgive me.

explain the difference between the sport/race. I have the sport in with stock 02 sport shocks, I think it has lowered a decent amount.

[A4Dit]

Companies such as H&R and Neuspeed sell 2 different types of springs for the A4. They are sport and race. The only difference beside the way they handle and ride is the height. Sports will give you a moderate drop from stock and still give you a comfortable but compromised ride. The races are extremely lower, I have the Neuspeed races and I am tucking some tire in the rear on 19" wheels. The sports give you about a 1.5" drop while the races will put you about 2" lower, those aren't extremly accurate numbers but pretty close.

[A4Dit]

I could post pics if you'd like. My old A4 had H&R sports while my new one has Neuspeed races.

[Casius]

I have seen H&R sport springs coupled with Bilstein SP dampers

[velocipedio]

i have never seen one review of someone upgrading from stock suspension(sport or not) and complaining about the 'random components' that they 'mixed and matched' to be worse than stock. every review ive ever seen has be excitement about better handling. sure cornerbalancing is the 100% correct way to do it...IF you plan on doing autoX with your car. the majority of us on here have these cars as dailey drivers and dont really intend to do that stuff. sure we like to go fast, and hit the onramps hard...but we can achieve better than what we want with shocks and springs + sway bars. for a reall autoX-er, shocks and springs=bad. but for an everyday audiziner theyre perfectly fine.

That doesn't mean it handles better. Many people assume it handles better because they just dropped a wad of cash on pricy parts. When you lower a car, you must deal with suspension geometry, roll center, camber, travel, etc. A simple spring and sport package where the springs are not even designed in conjunction with the shocks is NOT going to improve your handling.

Not to mention, so many aftermarket springs aren't stiff enough for the lower ride height they give. These types of mods are for looks, not performance. I'm not saying they are wrong to do if that's what you want to do, but 99% of the time, you are not increasing performance.

[jcg05c]

there ya are jimmy. Ya i think sport H&R would do fine for what i want on my car like you said.