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    Veteran Member Four Rings nimski62's Avatar
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    Why does Audis RS4 v8 prod. 420hp, and S6 v10 only 435?

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    That makes no sense.. the v10 is a 5.2 liter.. wouldnt they want to at least make their v10 engine compete with the m5.. closer to 500?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings RAudi Driver's Avatar
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    Re: Why does Audis RS4 v8 prod. 420hp, and S6 v10 only 435?

    Good question, never knew this. The V10 only puts out 435hp? That's low.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings PESAPC's Avatar
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    Re: Why does Audis RS4 v8 prod. 420hp, and S6 v10 only 435?

    According to Edmunds:

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    Performance Base Number of Cylinders: 10 Base Engine Size: 5.2 liters Base Engine Type: V10 Horsepower: 435 hp Max Horsepower: 6800 rpm Torque: 398 ft-lbs. Max Torque: 3000 rpm Drive Type: AWD Turning Circle: 39 ft.

    RS4
    Performance Base Number of Cylinders: 8 Base Engine Size: 4.2 liters Base Engine Type: V8 Horsepower: 420 hp Max Horsepower: 7500 rpm Torque: 317 ft-lbs. Max Torque: 6000 rpm Drive Type: AWD Turning Circle: 36.4 ft.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings RAudi Driver's Avatar
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    Re: Why does Audis RS4 v8 prod. 420hp, and S6 v10 only 435?

    Wow, look at the torque numbers on the S6 and where it comes in.

    PESAPC, are you going to the G2G in O.C this weekend?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings PESAPC's Avatar
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    Re: Why does Audis RS4 v8 prod. 420hp, and S6 v10 only 435?

    Quote Originally Posted by RAudi Driver View Post
    PESAPC, are you going to the G2G in O.C this weekend?
    I want to BUT gotta pick up my gal at LAX at 2 PM so I am a no show unfortunately.
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    Veteran Member Three Rings caitovS4's Avatar
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    Re: Why does Audis RS4 v8 prod. 420hp, and S6 v10 only 435?

    Quote Originally Posted by RAudi Driver View Post
    Wow, look at the torque numbers on the S6 and where it comes in.
    Exactly...398 @ 3000 - that's your difference right there.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings quattro.it's Avatar
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    Re: Why does Audis RS4 v8 prod. 420hp, and S6 v10 only 435?

    Because they don't want to outdo the S8 @ 450hp.
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    Re: Why does Audis RS4 v8 prod. 420hp, and S6 v10 only 435?

    Quote Originally Posted by quattro.it View Post
    Because they don't want to outdo the S8 @ 450hp.
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    Re: Why does Audis RS4 v8 prod. 420hp, and S6 v10 only 435?

    Doesn't S6 and S8 share the same engine?
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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    Re: Why does Audis RS4 v8 prod. 420hp, and S6 v10 only 435?

    even if the s6 had 500hp the m5 would still beat it due to the quattro drivetrain loss. The S6 would have to have more like 550+ to beat the m5
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    Re: Why does Audis RS4 v8 prod. 420hp, and S6 v10 only 435?

    i read in article in the past that said that Audi wasn't in the HP race that BMW and Mercedes were into and was more into the driving experience.... After some point, to much HP on a daily driver is going to become useless. for all of you that are going to disagree with me on this one.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHmKrC20Jz4

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    Re: Why does Audis RS4 v8 prod. 420hp, and S6 v10 only 435?

    to show this engine's potential, look at the new lambo gallarado LP560-4. it uses a 5.2 Direct injection v10 (ala S6 & S8 just pumped up)
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    Re: Why does Audis RS4 v8 prod. 420hp, and S6 v10 only 435?

    rs6 (580) - rs4 (420) = 160 hp
    S6 (435) - s4 (340) = 115 hp

    Plus what they said (not competing with m5, and S8, etc.)

    i do disagree abt having too much power in a daily tho! hahah

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    Re: Why does Audis RS4 v8 prod. 420hp, and S6 v10 only 435?

    Yea, I thought the RS6 was the M5 Competitor!?

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    Re: Why does Audis RS4 v8 prod. 420hp, and S6 v10 only 435?

    Assuming it was the RS6 in development that kept the S6 power output down.
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    Re: Why does Audis RS4 v8 prod. 420hp, and S6 v10 only 435?

    Quote Originally Posted by caitovS4 View Post
    Exactly...398 @ 3000 - that's your difference right there.
    Yeah, we call that low end grunt where I'm from.

    As for e60 M5 competition, the S6 really isn't in the same class. Take a look at the S4, S5, and S6. What do they compete with? The "S" line is kind of an "in-between" class that other automakers generally lack, falling between the "normal" vehicles ("A" line) and the balls to the wall vehicles, which we know 'round here as the "RS" line. I would imagine that the RS6 would be gunning for the M5 as well as the M6 (until there's an RS5; coupe v. coupe).
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