APR 1+ B6: Can it take an si ?

[A4 KiDD 810]

I think I probly already know the answer to this, and I havent had a chance to run an si yet, and i'm tired of these ricers at my school saying stuff like a stock si will rape a B6 with APR 1+. My car for example, APR 1+(injectors) and a bailey dv. Thats like 35hp and 115 torque over the si. Despite the weight differences I figure it makes up for it. Could I take one ? My friend has a stock VR6 MkIV jetta and he says he wipes the floor with si's all the time. I figure if he has 220ish then I can take one. I'm just doing this to prove 1 side right 1 side wrong. Its not a big deal. I'm not denying that a modded one probly could take a 1+ b6 but a stock one ? I just wanna get a solid answer to go by from now on instead of 1 person vs another who is like completely biased to si's (typical ricer). TIA.

[dirtybrd]

Maybe, just don't run the gears out to long. A strong launch and shift about 5k and you might win.

[Carlitos]

of course you are goin' to win!!


I beat up RSX type S and Si all day long...

as also MKIV VR6 gti's and jetta's


I only have Giac w/custom exhaust, psi test pipe and front mount.

[A4 KiDD 810]

of course you are goin' to win!!


I beat up RSX type S and Si all day long...

as also MKIV VR6 gti's and jetta's


I only have Giac w/custom exhaust, psi test pipe and front mount.

Yea your front mount probly helps you out alot. I was debating getting one for this summer, but we'll see how things go probly later summer now but i really wanna take a break and get myself some other life luxuries like clothes and stuff

[Carlitos]

Yea your front mount probly helps you out alot. I was debating getting one for this summer, but we'll see how things go probly later summer now but i really wanna take a break and get myself some other life luxuries like clothes and stuff

lol...

that's part of the game

[[IX]]

Fmic>clothes

[AudiA4Turbo22]

^^haha!

[kolan67]

im apr 1+ and i lost to an si with an exhaust.... no fmic though and it was about 85 degrees... i felt the heat soak pretty badly because were kinda playing b4 we gunned it

with a FMIC i probably would walk him..very slowly

[SeKKeY]

shift at peak HP and you should take him..once they get a flash and I/H/E they are quick though

[[IX]]

Its ok I got thrashed by my friends G35s last night. There is always somebody faster!!

[[IX]]

shift at peak HP and you should take him..once they get a flash and I/H/E they are quick though

^^TRUE^^ Shifting over 5k=loss of power! A $30 boost gauge will prove it

[converted2audi]

Fmic>clothes

hahaha +1 kinda hahaha



i miss my SI...had a gt28rs on it, was a ton of fun to drive but had to sell it before it got stolen BUT, i did sell it for enough to pay cash for my a4 so i cant complain too much

[AudiA4Turbo22]

how come u guys get 20 VAC pressure?? I only get a max of 16!

[kolan67]

Leak? ^^

[AudiA4Turbo22]

^^maybe!

[pOrKcHoP07]

I'd put my money on the Si. They are lighter, have a wider powerband, and have less drivetrain loss.

Run it and let us know the outcome.

[Smiley]

I beat those newer SiR's running with a DEAD MAF, inj leak, boost leak, and i would only spike at like 15 even though im 1+ ..

wasnt a rape though, pretty close

[Maverick]

Si is a nice car and a great car after you mod it.
but there isn't a comparison between a Si and A4 no matter how much faster either one is than the other

[audikid66]

ill rock si's.. i was beating g35 coupes even wen i had my broken motor mounts.....i love the k04s torque

[initiala4]

Well I have seen them in 1/4 and most of the guys have problems launching. They ended up in the 16s

[surreal]

how come u guys get 20 VAC pressure?? I only get a max of 16!

Check you DV I was only pulling 16.3 VAC. I put a vacuum pump on it and it wouldn't hold pressure. I have a forge hybrid but my stock one went back on and I now have 20 vac.



As for the SI. my friend has a 07 SI with an intake and i'm running stage1 with alot of other stuff. I can bet him from a stand still but most of the time were rolling and he can get it it V-tec he pulls on me

[gotboost]

i pull on my buddy with a base rsx, with race header, cai, hks exhaust from about 40-95, and then he starts to pull

[A4TL]

its easy for an SI to put down equal whp and have less weight. their shifter is far superior imo; pretty much a done deal since you have no launch advantage unless you have stage 3 clutch or are racing in the snow/sleet/rain

[Four Play]

With just S1, I barely beat an EP Si from a stop, he had a short ram, header, and an exhaust. He was about 2cm from passing me before the 1/4 mile mark, it was unbelievably close. I launched as hard as I could get it to, foot was on the brake to the floor, and then planted my foot in the gas, and left when it hit 3k RPMs. From a roll it was no contest, hands down the Si.

[Papachristou]

i have a fully supported 1+ and i can easily walk SIs.. however my lil bro has a RSX-S with header, exhaust and CAI.. i smoke him off the line but by 4th gear he starts pulling on me, they have too much power up top whereas my k03 is out of breath


BTW, FMIC helped my car more than exhaust or anything else, it amazed me how much harder the car pulled with it

[texasboy21]

my roommate has a acura tsx (euro accord) which has the K24 (2.4, stroked version of the K20) and its the same story, from a dig i rape till 3-4thish but from a roll the vtec and 6 speed (im 5 speed) will always prevail. its just different powerbands and gearing. but remember hes driving a honda hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

barrett

[HamidsVikes]

I think I probly already know the answer to this, and I havent had a chance to run an si yet, and i'm tired of these ricers at my school saying stuff like a stock si will rape a B6 with APR 1+. My car for example, APR 1+(injectors) and a bailey dv. Thats like 35hp and 115 torque over the si. Despite the weight differences I figure it makes up for it. Could I take one ? My friend has a stock VR6 MkIV jetta and he says he wipes the floor with si's all the time. I figure if he has 220ish then I can take one. I'm just doing this to prove 1 side right 1 side wrong. Its not a big deal. I'm not denying that a modded one probly could take a 1+ b6 but a stock one ? I just wanna get a solid answer to go by from now on instead of 1 person vs another who is like completely biased to si's (typical ricer). TIA.

my old car was a 96 Jetta VR6... stock engine had about 180 hp... that thing would destroy any SI... even beat SIRs on a constant basis (almost 180 hp)...
however I do admit that the car was slightly faster than my A4 3.0 (atleast top end)...
with the Jetta though Sis and SiRs would always try to race me... however they pay alott of respect to the Audi... often at a red light one of those ricers pulls along side of me and looks like they wanna go... but they seldamly do....

[AudiBama]

i ran my buddies (bone stock) new si (the spaceship!)

with just exhaust he pulled on me slowly....but after i had my stage 1 and dv i beat him...

a lot of it is driving

[n7plus1]

apr+1 and supporting mods vs. a new civic si with i/h/e..id say the si wins.

[AudiBama]

the great thing is...we are comparing honda's flagship with Audi's base model retard child haha

[AudiA4Turbo22]

^^i concur! but now an Accord V6 would whoop our ass!

[Roadie73]

I'll have to see once I go to the GIAC equivalent to APR +1 - one of my buddies just picked up a new-ish Accord - V6 with a 6 spd...

[vinny.dtw]

SI is far from Hondas flagship... Heard of a S2k or a nsx? Beside the point. It's a driver race imo. Break the other kids leg, and ull win.

[gq9]

Don't waste gas, it's a honda.

[supamannn99]

Don't waste gas, it's a honda.

x2

straight line runs are WEAK

[converted2audi]

SI is far from Hondas flagship... Heard of a S2k or a nsx? Beside the point. It's a driver race imo. Break the other kids leg, and ull win.

some pent up agression vince????

[-Audi_tuning-]

umm telling you right now the Si is not that fast, I wipe the floor with em and im a 3.0... pluss i work at honda, sitting at work right now actually, and they arent that great, and we dont have the 3rd gear issues lol...

[golgo13]

I personally beat an brand new Si all the way to 5th gear all the way to 120 mph. I am bone stock except minor things.

[HamidsVikes]

x2

straight line runs are WEAK

I am with him....
we drive Audis... corners is where we shine...
and honestly... anyone can drive hard in a stright line... your true skills are shown in corners...

[n7plus1]

the great thing is...we are comparing honda's flagship with Audi's base model retard child haha

how is it honda's flagship?