Finally Got Chipped!!! But not just a Regular Chip

[HeymyAudi]

Well I havent posted in a while because of work and work and work and work... But I have been keeping up with you guys... 2.8 Tranny Swaps and New Avants... CO AVANT now up and running ... Ohhh and Jet Jocket and some more CAR PORN.. ECU in the Center Console !!!! Classic Audizine!!! Mostly Reading in airports while Im waiting for delayed Delta Flights...

So I get back and Im like man I need do something with this car today... Plus it has been running PIG RICH ( 13.2MPG and like 11.3 idle )... So I decided to give my boy Luigi a call... He does custom tunes and all types of crazy stuff to VW's and Audi's... He is a tuning GOD!!! So I call him up he says " drop that pretty thing over here and leave $650.00 with me...

So I drop it off and he says Dude your car is running like shit.. But I got all the upgrades ( Custom Intercooler, Custom Exhaust, Ported K03, Ported Manifold and Custom DP ) <---- Notice Clutch isnt on the list pay attention....

So Im at work and I call him he says " WOOOOO THIS SHIT IS RUNNING LIKE WILD FIRE!!!" So I go and pick it up and WTF the car is a ROCKET!!! ... Some kid is there with a B5 with a KO4 and every bolt on possible...( Not Luigi Tuned ) but he is there saying how fast his car is ... So as Im leaving this kid decides to run with me... Uhmm lets say I smoked him like he was in a Hyundai Elantra.. He was like man that shit is fast...

So As Im driving 10 minutes later and I press the gas to get onto the Highway the song we all hate to hear " FREE SPIN CITY COMES ON " ... THE CLUTCH STARTS SLIPPING!!! LOL

GOD MODDING IS A DRUG AND WE ALL NEED REHAB!!!!

Here is the latest PIC....

[absolutegtr]

I remember you told me about this guy via AIM....

Sweet! Definetly time for a OFE SS or FE SS.

I'm lovin my OFE

[B6Lovin]

get to a dyno asap.

what tune were you running before?
any logs from the new tune?

[A4natomical]

right on. things like getting a new tune make you have a new car mentality. meaning your excited to go out and drive your car cuz you have something new to look forward to. its refreshing. have fun with it.

[HeymyAudi]

right on. things like getting a new tune make you have a new car mentality. meaning your excited to go out and drive your car cuz you have something new to look forward to. its refreshing. have fun with it.

That is the truth! and I can buy more 4.15.... ( Price of Premium in my city )

get to a dyno asap.

what tune were you running before?
any logs from the new tune?

Dyno in about another month gotta do my clutch and manual boost controller.....

Stock Programming before and once I get eveything in I will have him provide me with Logs....

[b6a4]

4.15 down there huh? not lookin foreward to july. ill be down there for 3 weeks in july, id like to see the car.

[HeHateMe]

right on. things like getting a new tune make you have a new car mentality. meaning your excited to go out and drive your car cuz you have something new to look forward to. its refreshing. have fun with it.

This why we mod. Well said bro. That's sig material.

[manhertm]

Well if Luigi is tuning god, he needs to package that shit. You definitely need to get a dyno done, I really curious about how well he tuned your car. Are you stage 1 or 1+?

[47Ronin]

I thought that shit was sketchy when he said - drop your car off here with $650 lol .... sounds like a drug dealer

[converted2audi]

I thought that shit was sketchy when he said - drop your car off here with $650 lol .... sounds like a drug dealer

hahaha

glad to hear your car is running better!

[A4Dit]

I don't see how your tune could be any better than anyone elses. I doubt the guy you know is writing his own software so you have APR, Revo, or GIAC just like the rest of us. I have APR+1 and a buddy of mine has a B5 with a Ko4 and he spanks me: lighter car, better torque and more power through higher RPMs. Anyway, just my opinion.

[skeeball]

Stock injectors and a K03? I'm sure the car is faster than before, but I'm doubting it's that fast.

[A4 TSCHUSS]

What is the name of the shop? Why does nobody know of this guy? He is that good and custom tunes, it sounds like Shawn needs to bring his 3071r down there to be tuned. So you beat a K04 B5 with a tune in a B6 find that hard to believe. And the car was running terrible and real rich when it was stock, what was wrong? Did he replace the oxygen sensor which im thinking was the problem of it running so rich?

[F16HTON]

This "Luigi guy" must be a unicorn or something...

A quick search on VW Vortex, Audiworld, Audizine, Audiforums, and even the allmighty google netted me nothing.

Unless it is kinda like the fight club or something.

[AudiA4Turbo22]

i don't see it either Revo, GIAC, and APR, especially MTM, spend tousands on each car to make a software that can unlock as much power as possible and if he did it at ome he's a genius!

[Carlitos]

how did he tune your car?

did he used a base software and tune it?

or he just tuned your stock ecu?

[[IX]]

That is the truth! and I can buy more 4.15.... ( Price of Premium in my city )



Dyno in about another month gotta do my clutch and manual boost controller.....

Stock Programming before and once I get eveything in I will have him provide me with Logs....

No doubt i paid 4.05 in Boca yesterday. Gotta pay to play

[Tacoman_Si]

the b5 could have been a crappy driver. I have smoked a number of cars with more HP then my honda because they really did not know how to drive. Maybe the b6 owner can drive?

[Overboostin]

Maybe the b6 owner can drive?

I doubt it.


I kid I kid!!!

[dougyfresh]

This "Luigi guy" must be a unicorn or something...

A quick search on VW Vortex, Audiworld, Audizine, Audiforums, and even the allmighty google netted me nothing.

Unless it is kinda like the fight club or something.

Either that or he had Mario do it...







OP... Do you have any logs or anything of that nature from Lugi (or Mario)? Those will speak louder than a dyno sheet...

[HeymyAudi]

My tune started out giac based... so basically he has a base to start off with... From there he added 380cc injectors... Road tuned for close to 3 hrs..... My car was running rich becuase of the Ecu freaking out and trying to adjust to all the shit on the car...

So basically It can be called a Giac +1 with some extra work done.. Im sure everyones Chip wether it is Giac APR REVO UNITRONICS etc...etc.. is equal across the board... Not saying my shit is the best on the forum.. Just saying it was finely tuned and runs GREAT... Hell He has to de-tune a little bit off just becuase of the clutch so once that goes in... Then turn up the fun.... But from being in this car game for a while I have come to learn that it is all in the tune... Not how many bolt-ons a person has...

He use to be part of a shop in Boca Raton called Velocity Motorsports but now he has branched out on his own... He does work on the side becuase he is back in college full time... Anyone in WPB to Miami wants more info PM me and I can get you his contact info...

[texasboy21]

so what did it put down on the dyno?? how much boost are you running, just curious??

barrett

[mxrz]

Is it even legal to mess with GIAC's software like that? Modifying it and charging for it?

[F16HTON]

You cannot just modify the GIAC software...it is fully encrypted. Maybe this "Luigi" guy is the Jeff Moss of Florida

[B6Lovin]

Is it even legal to mess with GIAC's software like that? Modifying it and charging for it?

no it's not... and i have a feeling that if GIAC sees this thread that guy is gonna lose his GIAC license..

they're very strict about what you can and cannot do, and even reputable shops who are just doing their own tuning on the side (and not tweaking/modifying the GIAC software) have lost their license over it.

I don't see how your tune could be any better than anyone elses. I doubt the guy you know is writing his own software so you have APR, Revo, or GIAC just like the rest of us.

there are ways.. I've been doing some research lately, and i still have a LOT more to do, but I'd really like to see a graph of the timing run on this new tune put up along side the original giac tune. My guess is that this software works something like the unitronic/TAPP tunes.... we'll see when/if this guy throws up some charts and graphs to look at.

[B6Lovin]

You cannot just modify the GIAC software...it is fully encrypted.

nvm, answers that question lol.
i do know however that GIAC is pretty strict about rules that their retailers have to follow.

[HeymyAudi]

You cannot just modify the GIAC software...it is fully encrypted.

Intresting you say that... Because I our 2 Giac chipped cars that has been modified... Mine being one of them and my brothers BT B5... Back when my brother got his 28rs they used the Hammer File or hammer head or what ever the hell the name is to run it.... Once he left NJ he needed a retune after doing some other mods...He took it to couple south fl shops and they couldnt do any adjustments they even wanted to reflash the car with REVO... So basically he was gonna go back to NJ to get it fine tuned.... Then we met up with my boy and its history... Hell he even did some adjustments to it last weekend when we dropped in the new intank fuel pump... So you cannot modify GIAC software might be true on your end but not on mine

so what did it put down on the dyno?? how much boost are you running, just curious??

barrett

Havent Dyno'd as of yet I need a clutch so hopefully within another 2 to 3 weeks I should be able to post something up for the guys....

Boost was 22lbs then falling to 17lbs at redline because of the little turbo running out of air.... Nothing ANYONE can do about that....

But the clutch was slipping so bad that we had to turn it down to 17lbs and it falls to 14 around redline... Once the clutch goes in and everything goes back to where it needs to be I PROMISE I will post up the dyno and graphs and VIDEO and what ever else anyone would like to see....





Just like saying there isnt 10year olds who changes there grade after hacking into the school boards mainframe... lol

[akaEsCo01]

You really shouldn't be posting about your boy cracking GIAC's encrypted software and changing it then charging for personal gain. He may not want the kind of problems you are potentially posing for him. Just a thought...

[dougyfresh]

there are ways..

Yeah. Its called a custom-written ME7 tune









22psi on a K03! [O_O] That turbo isn't going to last too long at those levels...

[F16HTON]

Intresting you say that... Because I our 2 Giac chipped cars that has been modified... Mine being one of them and my brothers BT B5... Back when my brother got his 28rs they used the Hammer File or hammer head or what ever the hell the name is to run it.... Once he left NJ he needed a retune after doing some other mods...He took it to couple south fl shops and they couldnt do any adjustments they even wanted to reflash the car with REVO... So basically he was gonna go back to NJ to get it fine tuned.... Then we met up with my boy and its history... Hell he even did some adjustments to it last weekend when we dropped in the new intank fuel pump... So you cannot modify GIAC software might be true on your end but not on mine



Havent Dyno'd as of yet I need a clutch so hopefully within another 2 to 3 weeks I should be able to post something up for the guys....

Boost was 22lbs then falling to 17lbs at redline because of the little turbo running out of air.... Nothing ANYONE can do about that....

But the clutch was slipping so bad that we had to turn it down to 17lbs and it falls to 14 around redline... Once the clutch goes in and everything goes back to where it needs to be I PROMISE I will post up the dyno and graphs and VIDEO and what ever else anyone would like to see....





Just like saying there isnt 10year olds who changes there grade after hacking into the school boards mainframe... lol

lol. I think I can have more software modified than anyone on these boards.

[B6Lovin]

Yeah. Its called a custom-written ME7 tune

22psi on a K03! [O_O] That turbo isn't going to last too long at those levels...

indeed.

to both those statements.

[B6Lovin]

You really shouldn't be posting about your boy cracking GIAC's encrypted software and changing it then charging for personal gain. He may not want the kind of problems you are potentially posing for him. Just a thought...

i said that earlier... and i'm glad someone else realizes the potential legal troubles you could be causing your friend. other shops have been PUBLICLY berated by GIAC (even on forums) and lost their licenses over less-serious "offenses" .... I'd hate to think what could happen to this guy.

[nihil]

I call bullshit.

The process described sounds like nothing more than a tweak via Lemmiwinks/Unisettings/V-Tune/etc... which most chip makers not only approve of, they provide the software for it.

It would take considerable time and effort to crack GIACs or anyone elses encrypted bins, and even if someone did manage to do it, the gains seen from it would be few. They (chip makers) have already spent the time and effort to tweak the software for a given situation (injector size, turbo size, etc...), leaving the fine tuning to the adaptation blocks.

On top of that, OEM software for the ME7/1.8T is easily found online, and tweaking that would have been a hell of a lot faster, easier, and more productive than cracking GIACs ware.

My guess is tuner guy spent that 3 hours logging and lemmiwinking, and that the kid the OP was running against was exactly that, a kid, and not an overly experienced driver.

400HPA4: didn't know `ole DT played with cars too

[HeymyAudi]

I call bullshit.

The process described sounds like nothing more than a tweak via Lemmiwinks/Unisettings/V-Tune/etc... which most chip makers not only approve of, they provide the software for it.

It would take considerable time and effort to crack GIACs or anyone elses encrypted bins, and even if someone did manage to do it, the gains seen from it would be few. They (chip makers) have already spent the time and effort to tweak the software for a given situation (injector size, turbo size, etc...), leaving the fine tuning to the adaptation blocks.

My guess is tuner guy spent that 3 hours logging and lemmiwinking, and that the kid the OP was running against was exactly that, a kid, and not an overly experienced driver.

I never said anything about CRACKING ANY SOFTWARE... Trust me You got to be a experienced individual to CRACK any type of APR or Giac hell even REVO software... ME7 software is available all over but with that software you have to know what your doing... BUT YOU CAN CHANGE PARAMETERS IN GIAC WITH PROVIDED SOFTWARE And he has alot and alot of experience with them ...I must of seen him use atleast 5 different programs in the 30 mins he was finishing up with me in the car... He is very well versed in what he is doing... Put it this way.. Its like getting Unitronics software then bringing your car to Canada and let them fine tune your car to match exactly whats on there...

Most places you bring your car to them and they chip it and your on your way... They might do couple passes to check to see if everything is ok but from there your on your own....

Greg I know you know your shit Hell REVO did a custom file for you... Thats a hookup! BTW Imma PM you about a CF S4 add-on