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    Veteran Member Four Rings QuattroRocket's Avatar
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    Angry I think I am gonna go postal !!!

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    So tell me if I am off my rocker here or justifiabily PISSED

    I bought a BT kit second hand but never used. I got the hardware installed this past week and despite talking with everyone I could I was forced to send my ECU out for flashing to the original retailer about 12 hours away.

    - Saturday I spoke with the shop and they had the ECU, I left my name and phone number to find out when it would be done and if they wanted to charge me or the shop that did the install of the hardware and shipped the ECU for me. No call back.

    - Monday I spoke with the shop and they had the ECU, I left my name and phone number to find out when it would be done and if they wanted to charge me or the shop that did the install of the hardware and shipped the ECU for me. No call back.

    - Tuesday I speak with someone there and find out that there was some "problem" programming the ECU and it wont be ready to send back till Wed.

    - Wednesday I email the shop looking for tracking info. I recieve a reply email asking for credit card info, I call them immediately. I leave my CC info even though they dont have a total or an invoice for me .... I just want my car back.

    - Thursday I email looking for tracking info and a total for the work ... no reply

    - Friday I email looking for tracking info and a total for the work. I get an email explaining that they missed the Thursday express courier (note they said it was going to be ready Wednesday!) and it would go out today for delivery MONDAY ! AND the bill for a flash programming on an ECU plus shipping is $288

    Now you tell me, am I crazy or is this insane ??? This kit was still new, the original purchaser never got their flash done at all so technically they were paid for the flash by the original purchaser but I was fine with a 30 minute labour charge as I understand I am the second owner. But $288 ???

    At this point I am so desperate to get my car back I am agreeing to the chrages. You see I need my car for work each and every day to see clients, being without the car for over a week is killing me.

    This shop I am dealing with is a sub retailer for a rather large Audi/VW retailer and is affiliated with one of the prominent chip tuners in the VW/Audi scene.

    So am I missing something or am I within my rights to SNAP

    *NOTE* All names have been omitted to preserver the innocent until proven guilty !
    Gone but not forgotten : 2000 A4, 2002 A4, 2004 A4, 2013 S4 Premium, 2013 Q7, 2017 SQ5 Dynamic Edition
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    Veteran Member Three Rings oregonaudi's Avatar
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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    you definately need to take it up with the bigger retailer and show them the docs to let them know that not only did you get ripped off, but also yanked around
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    Veteran Member Four Rings pondside36's Avatar
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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    Umm yeah I would be bullsh$t... it seems like mailing out ECUs never works out from all the horror stories. I hope it all works out an the car runs better than expected.. GL

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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    wow that sucks, after all of that they should have at least gave you a discount for your troubles
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    Veteran Member Three Rings Dirty's Avatar
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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    Thats some BullShit! I'd be pissed too, GL!!

    And whats the word on those injectors?
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    Senior Member Three Rings trailboss's Avatar
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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    sounds like eurocode are they 12 hours away?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings QuattroRocket's Avatar
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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty View Post
    Thats some BullShit! I'd be pissed too, GL!!

    And whats the word on those injectors?
    As soon as I get her all buttoned up and running again, which will be Monday hopefully now, I will have the parts ready to ship. I will keep you posted man, so sorry for the delay.

    *EDIT* DAMMIT ... my local tuner is closed Mondays so now its Tuesday ... 10 days for an ECU flash and shipping !!!
    Last edited by QuattroRocket; 05-09-2008 at 04:50 PM.
    Gone but not forgotten : 2000 A4, 2002 A4, 2004 A4, 2013 S4 Premium, 2013 Q7, 2017 SQ5 Dynamic Edition
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    Veteran Member Three Rings Dirty's Avatar
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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by QuattroRocket View Post
    As soon as I get her all buttoned up and running again, which will be Monday hopefully now, I will have the parts ready to ship. I will keep you posted man, so sorry for the delay.

    *EDIT* DAMMIT ... my local tuner is closed Mondays so now its Tuesday ... 10 days for an ECU flash and shipping !!!
    lol, its all good! I'm in no hurry, take your time and GL with your build
    15 S6 4.0T Quattro
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    S4 Door Blades//CC'd S4 Bi-Xenon//AWE Boost Gauge//RS4 Rear Sway Bar//K&N filter//Forge 007 DV//12" Audibahn sub-1500w//ATP 3" TP//Hitachi "E" coil packs//Revo Stage 2//FMIC & PS cooler//S6 LED's//RS style fog grills//Hawk HPS Pads//Tein SS Coilovers//19x10 et35f/et25r Rotifrom MIA's//Falken 235/35

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    Veteran Member Four Rings F16HTON's Avatar
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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    Question number 1...have you already installed all of the hardware?

    Question number 2...did you provide them with the return label or are they charging you for the return shipping?

    Question number 3...are you shipping your ECM to America from Canada? Are they insuring it for a full $1800?

    The reason I am asking these questions is that in this circumstance, I could see where overnight shipping could run around $200.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings QuattroRocket's Avatar
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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by 400HPA4 View Post
    Question number 1...have you already installed all of the hardware?
    YES

    Question number 2...did you provide them with the return label or are they charging you for the return shipping?
    They are charging me for the shipping because my shop that sent it out didnt set the return up.

    Question number 3...are you shipping your ECM to America from Canada? Are they insuring it for a full $1800?
    Its Canada to Canada shipping, 10 hours by car.

    The reason I am asking these questions is that in this circumstance, I could see where overnight shipping could run around $200.
    I will know shortly what the exact shipping is, I am holding off saying a thing till then.
    Gone but not forgotten : 2000 A4, 2002 A4, 2004 A4, 2013 S4 Premium, 2013 Q7, 2017 SQ5 Dynamic Edition
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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    Pay with CC - then chargeback

    done

    I love AMEX
    Now: RNS-E | Debadged | GIAC 1+

    Soon: Caractere front and sides | S4 Rear | S4 Doorblades | Bi-Xenon E-Codes

    Future: GTRS BT Kit | Tip Tranny upgrade for BT Kit

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    Veteran Member Four Rings QuattroRocket's Avatar
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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by 47Ronin View Post
    Pay with CC - then chargeback

    done

    I love AMEX
    Thats an absolute posibility ! My ECU was set for delivery today and of course my shop was closed so they will redeliver tomorow and heres hoping the car runs 100% and I can get back to normal life ... in the fast lane
    Gone but not forgotten : 2000 A4, 2002 A4, 2004 A4, 2013 S4 Premium, 2013 Q7, 2017 SQ5 Dynamic Edition
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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    I spend about 8-10k total AMEX a month and sometimes amex will just comp me the charges but AMEX dispute system = best in the world

    of course don't go around disputing shit that you're supposed to be charging lol
    Now: RNS-E | Debadged | GIAC 1+

    Soon: Caractere front and sides | S4 Rear | S4 Doorblades | Bi-Xenon E-Codes

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    Veteran Member Four Rings QuattroRocket's Avatar
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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    Well it gets worse ... yes worse.

    The ECU was delivered this morning and as I feared ... it doesnt work. My local shop is a very accomplished tuner and has a number of diagnostic tools and wondering if its the same ECU we sent out as the immobilizer code seems off. Now it will mean sending the ECU back via courier and waiting for it to return.

    To further complicat matters my tuner is shutting down next week and if the ECU isnt back in time my car might be locked up for a week or two while they are away unless I want to go to the expense of towing it to somewhere I can store it and try and plug in the ecu when it finally returns again !

    I am totally helpless here and am out a LOT of time and money on this whole experience.

    What a nightmare.
    Gone but not forgotten : 2000 A4, 2002 A4, 2004 A4, 2013 S4 Premium, 2013 Q7, 2017 SQ5 Dynamic Edition
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    Veteran Member Four Rings F16HTON's Avatar
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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by QuattroRocket View Post
    Well it gets worse ... yes worse.

    The ECU was delivered this morning and as I feared ... it doesnt work. My local shop is a very accomplished tuner and has a number of diagnostic tools and wondering if its the same ECU we sent out as the immobilizer code seems off. Now it will mean sending the ECU back via courier and waiting for it to return.

    To further complicat matters my tuner is shutting down next week and if the ECU isnt back in time my car might be locked up for a week or two while they are away unless I want to go to the expense of towing it to somewhere I can store it and try and plug in the ecu when it finally returns again !

    I am totally helpless here and am out a LOT of time and money on this whole experience.

    What a nightmare.
    PSA...make sure you put the cover back on the ECU comparment and tighten it back down while you are waiting.

    What can happen is that water will leak into it if it rains or you wash the car. All of the relays and wiring harness will rust immediately.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings QuattroRocket's Avatar
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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    Thanks, if it leaves the shop where its been stored I will be sure to.
    Gone but not forgotten : 2000 A4, 2002 A4, 2004 A4, 2013 S4 Premium, 2013 Q7, 2017 SQ5 Dynamic Edition
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    Veteran Member Four Rings F16HTON's Avatar
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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    I left mine off for one night while I had overnighted it to Eurocode and it rained, what a friggen nightmare

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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by trailboss View Post
    sounds like eurocode are they 12 hours away?
    x2 yea eurocode blows donkey balls.. no joke.. would never order from them ever again
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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    ^^no one i've ever spoken to except for a select few like their service!
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    Senior Member Three Rings trailboss's Avatar
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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    ^^^ I would buy from them again but i would expect the worst. It wasn't to horrable but i was not pleased with the transaction. But alot of other people have had horrable service while others have had top notch service.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings QuattroRocket's Avatar
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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    Its not Ecode, its a regional sub retailer thats the problem. I am hoping tomorow that the supplier steps up to help.
    Gone but not forgotten : 2000 A4, 2002 A4, 2004 A4, 2013 S4 Premium, 2013 Q7, 2017 SQ5 Dynamic Edition
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    Veteran Member Four Rings QuattroRocket's Avatar
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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    And another day passes full of no one taking ownership of solving this problem.

    Although my local tuner did seem to discover that my ECU came back programmed for a 5spd, front trash A4 instead of the 6spd quattro it left as !!!!
    Gone but not forgotten : 2000 A4, 2002 A4, 2004 A4, 2013 S4 Premium, 2013 Q7, 2017 SQ5 Dynamic Edition
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    Re: I think I am gonna go postal !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by QuattroRocket View Post
    And another day passes full of no one taking ownership of solving this problem.

    Although my local tuner did seem to discover that my ECU came back programmed for a 5spd, front trash A4 instead of the 6spd quattro it left as !!!!
    Wow what the fuck

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