*Brand New* Black Stoptech ST-40 Calipers $500 SHIPPED WITHIN CONUS

[wwb4]

I just bought these from a fellow AZer less than a month ago. I've since decided to go in a different direction. Just looking to get what I've got in them. $500 shipped within CONUS. They're black w/white lettering. Brand new, never mounted and never used. Feel free to e-mail me ([email protected]) or PM me with questions. First person to PAYPAL the money gets them.

See additional details from the original listing that I purchased them from below:
http://audizine.com/forum/showthread...light=stoptech

[02silverb6]

What brakes/car will these fit?

[DxC]

450 shipped to boston

EDIT: my friend posted on my name. his name is billasec on AZ

[JK35]

pm sent

[JK35]

THANKS A MILLION! I can't WAIT to get these on my car!

[wwb4]

SOLD to JK35!!!!!

[JK35]

back on the market, contact Will or me for details

[matts 04 S4]

which car is this for a4 or s4 , b6 or b5
thanks

[MikeyG6767]

ya... what car spec are these for ?

[JK35]

these are an "H" cut caliper with a center inlet and 2mm clearance. the pistons are 34mm/36mm Stoptech recommends a 34/38mm for a Stock B% A4, but say this would work for a lighter car.
These are not a stocking part number, rather were part of a custom run for two different racing teams. One is for a custom porsche the other was for that time attack Scion that is all over the tunercar magazines (and seen at major league racing events)
I would probably get GREAT results with these, as I am lightweighting the hell out of my car ananyway, but I am not familiar with brake engineering enough to play around with this.
I weant off the shelf parts for my Audi...

I will sell these to the first person who paypals me. Price is $500 I have into 'em + whatever shipping costs. I would guess I could get these into 2 USPS Flat Rate Boxes for $8 each

first $516 + paypal fee -to [email protected] takes them
CALL me before sending money so I can simultaneously delete this offer as your transfer comes through... as I don't want to have to refund any payments.

These might be ideal for an Audi TT what do those cars weigh anyway?

Stoptech and Zeckhausen Racing is where I got my information, and they're saying these brake calipers are for a 26-2800lbs car or less (depending upon pads/wheels/tires/driver/track conditions/etc...)

I just want a basic big brake kit for my 1997 A4 TQM. I'll be messaging a few of you just as soon as these sell
If you HAVE a BBK that will fit my car (that is FOR my car) please message me so we can make arrangements

[JK35]

Will, the tracking number you sent me is invalid... these are NOT for my car, and I need a call back from you asap.
I'm getting nothing but your voicemail, and I have sent several messages both PM here on the AZ forum, and via your personal email address.

Please call me back as soon as you read this.

These calipers need to come back to you as you said you'd take them back and refund my $500

I'm getting quite worried at this point, and I need to hear back from you as soon as possible

[karmad]

Hey man wat car is this for?

[TinaTbolt]

^x2

[JK35]

These brake calipers were obtained from a racing team. Stoptech and Zeckhausen Racing concur that these were a CUSTOM made part for two different racing teams,

#1 was that Time Attack Scion that we've all seen in all the magazines

#2 was for a Porsche race car

the pistons are almost right for our cars, but these are NOT going to work correctly as Stoptech specifically designs a caliper for each specific vehicle, and these were NOT intended for an Audi.
Stoptech was called numerous times about these calipers over the past couple weeks, so wwb4's statement to me that these would work on my car was NOT TRUE.
Also, Will insured to me that if they wouldn't work, that he would buy them back because he could sell them on a Porsche forum for much more money than I paid for them.

This has wasted a HUGE amount of my time, and caused dissention and disruption. Will was on the spot and reassuring until yesterday when he has now decided to avoid my calls and messages.

I want my money back!
These were sold to me under FALSE PRETENSES, and this is the very reason that it is not safe to buy things on forum classifieds... Because of people like this.

I would not sell these to anyone that doesn't know what they are getting into. I would have NEVER lied to someone, telling them "sure, buddy... these will fit on your car" knowing damned well that is NOT TRUE...

take my money and then hide... and he says he brokers car deals for high rollers/celebrities? I hope you know better than to treat those people like this!

If anyone can suggest what I should do here, please advise. As it stands, I am stuck with a pair of very nice, impressive, BRAND NEW IN THE BOX Stoptech calipers that I can do nothing with...
Any advice would be greatfully appreciated

However, you can disregard my previous notion to sell these, because I will stop this circle even if it means me taking the fall here. I WON'T pass these off to an unsuspecting buyer. That is unethical and DISHONEST, and that is not the way I do things...


The calipers are just incredible looking.

[Meddie600RR]

Why didn't you verify if they would fit your car before you bought them??????

[47Ronin]

I think he did - he asked the seller who said it would fit ...

I mean - go post them on a porsche forum - im sure someone will buy em

[JK35]

I think he did - he asked the seller who said it would fit ...

I mean - go post them on a porsche forum - im sure someone will buy em

That is correct. Will and I spoke for well over an hour on the phone, where he assured me these would fit my car. He also said that if there was any reason why they WOULDN'T fit, that he'd refund my money without delay.
Now he's refusing to return calls/messages, and I am left holding the bag.
-as I said, I will NOT pawn these off to anyone under false pretenses.
Do I want my money back out of these? you bet! but I won't allow this kind of crap to continue on my watch.
I am wondering how these guys got their hands on one off race parts anyway??? the box is marked in sharpie "spare calipers" which makes perfect sense considering what Stoptech/Zeckhausen has determined. These calipers were the inventory of a professional racing team.
How they wound up here is beyond me, but why they were sold to me is no mystery... They were knowingly listed here in an effort to unload them on an unsuspecting buyer, and he cleverly did so over a weekend because he knew stoptech nor anyone else would be available to disprove his claims and assurances...

Like I said, it's people like this that ruin it for everyone.

What needs to happen is for him to REFUND MY MONEY as promised, and take this up with whoever sold them to HIM...
If this was an honest deal, and there were no lies/false promises, then I wouldn't be crying victim... that is clearly not the case though.

Paypal has suggested legal recourse which can begin through my financial institution, or via Federal Law Enforcement
I am hoping there is a way to resolve this as Gentlemen, but my patience is running out quickly...

I am open to any suggestions any of you may have.

[JK35]

Are there any members that live in or near Fairfax, VA?

[JK35]

I think he did - he asked the seller who said it would fit ...

I mean - go post them on a porsche forum - im sure someone will buy em

I'm not a member of any Porsche forums, nor do I know exactly what these will fit... I don't want to sell these to someone who will wind up in the same position I am in now... All of the Porsche forums I have visited have 100 post minimums before you can list anyway...

What I want is for this guy to man up, live up to his promises and undo what he has done.

If he had went back to the person that sold 'em to him in the first place, none of this would have happened. Dishonesty sets off a chain reaction, and it will be broken here. RIGHT HERE one way or the other...

This matter of $500 is quickly approaching the point to where it will become a POINT to prove...

[jrau13]

It's lame that he wont even talk to you about it. That makes it very sketchy to me Good luck man I hope it works out for you!!!!

[Meddie600RR]

Oh Sorry... didn't realize you guys talked about that. Good luck getting it resolved.

[scot_w]

Do they not fit or are the pistons just wrong?

In your conversations with StopTech was there discussion of mating these to the correct brackets and changing the pistons?

I know it does not solve the issues you are having with wwb4, just curious if there are options to "salvage" some use from these calipers.

[JK35]

The piston sizes of the ST40's MADE FOR B5 TQM is a 32mm/38mm.
these custom one-off ST40's I was sold are 32mm/36mm. Both Zeckhausen and Stoptech agree that the difference in rear bias caused by this minute difference, would probably never be noticable to anyone but a professional driver running the same car/same conditions and comparing calipers back to back. Basically, they are saying none of us would ever be able to tell the difference. What makes this increasingly difficult, is that this is an "H" cut caliper, meaning that it is cut for 328-345mm rotors which are 28mm thick. These would be ideally suited for someone who is a SERIOUS track driver running a lightened car (is it even realistic to shed 300 lbs ???) One technical support person began a rhetoric about the thinner 28mm rotors insofar as they would not "absorb" heat as well as the thicker rotors, due to the decrease in MASS of course, however the 28mm rotors are much LIGHTER, and will cool off faster than the more massive thicknesses. true or not? I have no idea, it sounds feasible enough.

I have continued to kindly and politely try to get William Bruner of Fairfax, VA AZ member "wwb4" to return my calls/PM's and or emails. I even left a message telling him that I could understand why at this point, he might feel uncomfortable picking up the phone and talking to me, however I promised not to "reach through the phone line and bite.." I finished by adding that I would at least appreciate if he'd tell me where HE got these from, so I might contact this person (Stoptech is interested to know why these are in the hands of the General Public as well...)

I have had no choice but to get Paypal and the Authorities involved, as there has DEFINITELY been Fraud, and misrepresentation. and it is apparent that this con man has made off with my money, with no intent of ever making this right.
Paypal was extremely supportive and reassured, that they have many ways with which to deal with these types of situations.
They also told me that Virginia has some of the toughest penalties for Internet related Fraud Crimes and Civil Actions, and that the current trends in Virginia include stiff penalties as that State has been "making examples out of wrong-doers, when it comes to internet related scams and cons"





Does anyone here know "wwb4"
He claims to be an auto broker specializing in Unique/Specialty/hard to find High Line Automobiles. I sincerely doubt this, but if ANYONE would refer any information about this guy, I'd be forever grateful.

[Anthony]

Closing this now, as investigations are underway.