some minor stage II kills... (sorry, kinda long)

[BITRBO]

A few weeks ago I ended up next to a C5 Vette (stock, AT) and we did a few pulls from around 50ish. It was pretty much dead even through a couple gears, but one of the times I pulled on him by like a 1/2 car. At the bottom of the exit ramp he pulled up to me to ask what the car had (obviously clueless). "Just six cylinders and two turbos" I replied... S4 sleeper status FTW!

Then yesterday I ended up at a light with a Jeep Cherokee SRT-8. I obviously got the jump on him after green, and slowly pulled a car on him before we shut down at the top of 2nd. The exhaust def. sounded mean, but I think it's curb weight was to blame ... So he pulls up to ask me if I had the "Lambo engine" (obviously clueless as well), where I humbly replied: "Nope, that's the S8; Just a twin-turbo V-6 here!". S4 sleeper status FTW again!!

And then finally last night I was driving home late (12 a.m.-ish), minding my own buisiness when I see in my rear-view mirror three sets of headlights in the distance closing in on me FAST... I was like "oh shit", looks like some more fun . It turned out to be a E46 M3 (looked stock), an RSX (debadged, lowered, big exhaust, obviously modded), and a new Charger R/T (stock). So they pass my by a little, shut down, and line up to go again. So before they take off, I catch up to with a car by the time they go again; we all pretty much start together (me lagging behind slightly). Well, the R/T was out of my way pretty quick, where I finally catch up to the RSX and M3... And the RSX was edging out the M3!!! But then I finally pull out infront of them all by a car & 1/2 where we all shut down... I was like: SCHWEET!! They thought it was just a threesome and then I come outta no-where and surpise the shit out of them all!!! ...S4 sleeper status FOR-THE-MUTHA-F'ING-WIN!!!

But here's the eff'd-up part: The RSX obviously realizes I'm the only one worth his time, and pulls along side. We do like three more pulls and much to my dismay, we were DOOR-TO-EFFING-DOOR each time.... I was like "WHAT THE SHIT?!?" So finally on the last run, he litterally pulls a bumper on me from 4th to 6th (I prolly had nasty heat soak by then, of course ). So we slow down (to 50mph-ish), and I ask him if its all-motor (cause I heard NO turbo or s/c). He's like "yeah"... I was like NO-F'ING WAY!?! So I ask what he has, but all I could hear was "gas" or "meth" or something (the wind was loud and he had some kinda accent)... Maybe "naas"?

So my question is: WHAT THE FUCK??? I know he wasn't turbo or s/c'd, cause I would've heard it; and he said it was all motor. But I used to rape modded Type-S's with my stageII GTi... So the only thing I can figure is he had a built motor or an engine swap. Any thoughts??

p.s. On a side note: I was def. stoked about walking the E46... I've been waiting for that race since I bought her ....aaaand S4 FTW!

[sean1.8t]

an rsx type-s with a motor swap? ha, fat chance. who would get rid of a perfectly good k20? people swap them into honda's, not out..

my guess is, either he was supercharged/turbo'd(you don't always hear it unfortunately). which if he was, props to you. his car must have been running like shit..

but other than that, full bolt ons(intake, header, exhaust, pullies maybe, and Kpro) that with a bit of weight reduction can be a quick car for sure!

but that is sick you pulled on the e46. i NEVER see them around here. and i've always wanted to eat one up!

[SilverSurferS4]

Wow, nice kills bro..
I pulled on a modded rsx type s when i was stage 1, i pulled a few lengths on him at that time.. was the rsx you were racing chirping tires? my friends integra used to chirp 3 and
4th gear when his 75 shot kicked in.... perhaps he had nos... who knows.. weight reduction is a possibility also...

[Das General]

back when I was stage 1, 2 rsx's came flying up on me and I messed with them. We torched one of them but his buddy hung with me fairly well...he was within 2-3 lengths. Not sure on his modifications, but he had the basics done up.


but the first day I went stage 3...i had a hooked up one try and race me on the jerzy turnpike at 4am, and it was extremely embarrassing for him.

[hachirokukid]

nice kills man....

sucks bout the rsx...

[The_Jerbel]

I pulled about 5 car lengths on a turbo RSX back when I was stage 2, from 1st to the end of 3rd gear.

[Das General]

You would be surprised how iffy turbo rsx's are....even supercharged ones. I've seen a bunch of them run 14's...bummer.

[JDM EJ1 95]

You would be surprised how iffy turbo rsx's are....even supercharged ones. I've seen a bunch of them run 14's...bummer.

yea probably off the shelf greddy kits with moron drivers


stock RSX should go 14.5-14.9


oh and the kseries motors in those cars can be nasty all motor

heres an example

Just a header/intake/exhaust on the Kseries in my car on a street tune made 211 at the wheels

a set of cams and a nice tune can net ~250 at the wheels.

with just a small 75 shot wet. on a conservative jet and 3% added fuel on the tune we made upwards of 270whp and went 12.20s(albiet a 2300 lb civic) still that motor in an RSX would easily go 12.80


either way they CAN be quick cars.. but you know how 90% of hondas are.. owned by dousches so they are slow.

[S-Power]

Maybe a little off topic but my friend has a mustang 98 cobra with intake and exhuast no cats, would i beat him with my s4, 2000 6 speed, i got exhaust and SSK, thoughts ?

[HotSauce]

Get some software, and even still, it should be interesting.

[Reich]

I have a friend in the shop that has a rsx. I pulled him very bad when i was stage2. good kill. You have precision in your story. Too bad you did'nt had a friend with a cam. The rsx was not stock for sure.

[ChriS4]

either way they CAN be quick cars.. but you know how 90% of hondas are.. owned by dousches so they are slow.

Shhh, you've seen my last coupe on HT and on highway, my car would keep up with 13 second cars... Not bad for a lowly-modded sohc with no weight reduction (actually a fully dynamatted 2700lb car with a system and amp)

A lot of the time it's a driver's race. My friend's ex-girlfriends brother took a bone stock (motorwise) 01-04 civic ex to the track (130hp sohc) and pulled low 14s. Not bad for a 16-second car.

[BITRBO]

an rsx type-s with a motor swap? ha, fat chance. who would get rid of a perfectly good k20? people swap them into honda's, not out..

Hey, I never said it was a Type-S. It was debadged, so I couldn't tell. And since there was no wing (which those are kinda nice for those cars, IMO), it might've been a base RSX.

my guess is, either he was supercharged/turbo'd(you don't always hear it unfortunately). which if he was, props to you. his car must have been running like shit..

IDK, I guees maybe. But I never heard any kinda BOV sound, turbo whistle, or s/c whine... I'm almost positive he was all-motor, and he said so too.

but that is sick you pulled on the e46. i NEVER see them around here. and i've always wanted to eat one up!

Thanks! To his defense, he had a passanger and it was convertable. I think those are heavier, right?

[BITRBO]

Wow, nice kills bro..
I pulled on a modded rsx type s when i was stage 1, i pulled a few lengths on him at that time..

Yeah, so have I. That's why I'm so amazed.

was the rsx you were racing chirping tires? my friends integra used to chirp 3 and
4th gear when his 75 shot kicked in.... perhaps he had nos... who knows.. weight reduction is a possibility also...

Naw, no tire chirping. Our runs were starting around 50pmh-ish, so he'd have to have some SERIOUS HP to pull that off ...

[AudiSportB5S4]

yeah the convertibles are heavier for sure. i think 0-60 goes from like 4.8coupe to 5.3 convert actually according to BMW's site haha or at least used to when E46 was around

[BITRBO]

I pulled about 5 car lengths on a turbo RSX back when I was stage 2, from 1st to the end of 3rd gear.

And the RSX had full traction from a 1st gear roll?

[BITRBO]

I have a friend in the shop that has a rsx. I pulled him very bad when i was stage2. good kill. You have precision in your story. Too bad you did'nt had a friend with a cam. The rsx was not stock for sure.

Thanks man. Yeah, this was defintely NOT your run-of-the-mill RSX. I mean, I know my S isn't a God or anything, but I have held my own [and surprised] some pretty quick cars in the past...

[BITRBO]

...oh and the kseries motors in those cars can be nasty all motor

heres an example

Just a header/intake/exhaust on the Kseries in my car on a street tune made 211 at the wheels

a set of cams and a nice tune can net ~250 at the wheels.

with just a small 75 shot wet. on a conservative jet and 3% added fuel on the tune we made upwards of 270whp and went 12.20s(albiet a 2300 lb civic) still that motor in an RSX would easily go 12.80


either way they CAN be quick cars..

That's what I'm thinking. Kinda like this guy (but w/o the N0S):

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=560725

[Das General]

yea probably off the shelf greddy kits with moron drivers


stock RSX should go 14.5-14.9


oh and the kseries motors in those cars can be nasty all motor

heres an example

Just a header/intake/exhaust on the Kseries in my car on a street tune made 211 at the wheels

a set of cams and a nice tune can net ~250 at the wheels.

with just a small 75 shot wet. on a conservative jet and 3% added fuel on the tune we made upwards of 270whp and went 12.20s(albiet a 2300 lb civic) still that motor in an RSX would easily go 12.80


either way they CAN be quick cars.. but you know how 90% of hondas are.. owned by dousches so they are slow.

well obviously they can be quick. but traction is an issue and also driver skillllz comes into play.

[sCeRaXn]

I had a friend that had a RSX-S with a basic Greddy kit. Even the most trained ears couldnt tell that his car was boosted. It wasnt exactly fast, but i guess it would be considered quick. He ran an 8.9@79 in the 1/8th i believe. Now he has a built high compression k24 bottom end with RLZ headwork, ips IM, and cams, and a really good tune(all motor of course). I think the last time he ran at the track(on stock type s cams and stock IM with a shitty tune) he ran an 8.1@86. Im guessing hed run a high 7's at 90-92mph(the cams, tune, and IM helped ALOT). The top end on that car is absolutely nuts and like NOTHING ive ever felt in other AM hondas...even highly built bseries. Alot of s2 s4's would meet their demise against this car, and while cruising around youd think it was stock with an exhaust. When he gets on it...thats another story. It sounds pretty amazing at WOT!

The point is, dont feel bad about getting beat. 98% of the hondas/acuras you run across are slow as balls...but those two percent that arent slow are usually insanely fast. And these days its pretty easy to make a beast of a honda a sleeper, so its hard sorting the fast ones out from the slow ones lol.

[The_Jerbel]

And the RSX had full traction from a 1st gear roll?

I have no clue. I didn't hear any tire scream.

[JDM EJ1 95]

And the RSX had full traction from a 1st gear roll?

My car had full traction on a small drag radial when i had the k20 in a civic even on nitrous..


as long as your not pushing the big 300+ whp you should be able to maintin decent traction in first with some decent tires.



most people cant drive FWD so everyone thinks no one can..

i never had issues.. i launched at 6800RPM off a 2 step at the track and got pretty much full traction.. 1.8 60fts isnt bad for a civic on a street tire.

heres a vid of a track launch in my car

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ideoID=3632735

id launch it at 4-5k on the street as well with no issues.


Oh and whoever was asking about racing a 98 cobra. this is my civic on motor against one.. i spotted it out 5 cars and absoluetly destroyed it... he had exhaust, intake, headers, and a tire. if youre confident your S4 can run 15s or better(lol) you will win.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/C...obra_55995.htm

[sCeRaXn]

Wow thats absolutely horrible...that Cobra is slow as balls. Not knocking your car at all, in fact it seems to run REALLY strong for what it has. Most bolt on sn95 cobras are running low 13's to high 12's around here(depending on the gearing mostly). My buddy has a pullied 03 cobra that puts down a little over 460hp. I was hoping to be able to hang with him in the s4 one day, but now hes going with a Hellion single turbo kit and solid rear...so i guess i can go ahead and give up on that lol. I havent seen very many s4's trapping 135+mph, which is what its gonna take to hang with him once hes done.

[JDM EJ1 95]

ive NEVER seen a bolt on SN95 go anywhere close to 12s lol. maybe with a kit.

[sCeRaXn]

Really? Its not an uncommon sight around here. One of my best friends has a 99cobra with JLM intake, Kooks headers and Bassani x-pipe/exhaust, tune, pullies, 4:10's, and a ported TB and he runs consistant 12.7's at 105-106 on 315 Nittos. He has a clutch and suspension mods as well, but nothing major. This is actually a very mild setup considering the amount of work most Mustangs around here have. There are like 4 other people in his "club" that are running similar times with similar setups. There must be a bunch of fake Cobras around where you live lol.