Swapping AEB into a 2001 awm a4

[Poopie]

Is there anything thats too different that will cause me trouble? As far as knock sensors and stuff? I have a complete motor ect. I'm looking to pick up a 2001 avant 1.8t now.

[RAyala2.7T]

it is illegal to put an older engine in a newer car. so unless you don't plan on registering it you should be okay. as far as electricals and all, i'm not too sure since there will be some things missing from the aeb that the awm wiring harness needs to connect to.

[Euro-Tuner]

who would know the difference when it comes to registration? the only problem you would run into (which would be avoidable) is when the inspection station hooks up the obd port to check the diagnostics

[bassed]

Aeron keep the AWM as it its going to allow you to run no MAF, swap rods and AEB head and call it a day. The tuning potential of the 01' as you know now allows more options in programming...Unless going SAEM

[pac1085]

I don't see why it wouldn't work, it should run on the 2001's engine mgmt too. I believe one of the engine mounts is different and obviously the accessories are differen't but it shouldn't matter in your case since you have a whole car to take parts off of.

We know the AEB head works on the 2001 engine mgmt, so it's really just a matter of the VR sensor and knock sensors working

[audiness]

it is illegal to put an older engine in a newer car. so unless you don't plan on registering it you should be okay. as far as electricals and all, i'm not too sure since there will be some things missing from the aeb that the awm wiring harness needs to connect to.

i think that varies from state to state, because it's not illegal here.

[Poopie]

dddooohhhhhhhhh....I know the aeb will swap into a 2000 with out much head ache since the bottom ends are the same. Ok well them i'll have to just pull the rods and pistons out of the aeb and put them in the awm block.

Anyone selling aeb pistons? Maybe i'll just fully rebuild it....damn!

[Poopie]

No one would know its and older engine since the stock engine management is still there. The inspection people at pepboys don't know the difference between a cat and a large flex pipe.

[pac1085]

dddooohhhhhhhhh....I know the aeb will swap into a 2000 with out much head ache since the bottom ends are the same. Ok well them i'll have to just pull the rods and pistons out of the aeb and put them in the awm block.

Anyone selling aeb pistons? Maybe i'll just fully rebuild it....damn!

i'll have some for sale soon, i would have had 4 from my donor motor but i dropped one and it got dented so i'll have to take the good ones out of my other motor to make a set :(

i still think you could just drop all your stuff in, add the map sensor on your piping before the TB, the wideband o2 sensor, and whatever else it needs.

[B5Jaeger]

Why don't you sell your motor and start over? 06B offers you some more options than 058

[Poopie]

I've grown fond of my motor....

who wants to buy my motor then? taking offers....

[sean1.8t]

why is a vr-t not in your thought process? i know you can do it!

you've got some extra cash to throw around after you part out your old car right?

get off computer > go to yard > buy 12v longblock > I think you know the rest!

[SilverB5A4]

Sell the motor, buy an aeb head, scat rods, aeg crank, 83mm pistons, wala you have your self a 2.0 awm. Problem solved

[Poopie]

i actually got hosed really bad by insurance. I don't even wanna talk about it. Getting hit really effing sucks.

[317ssayzarc]

swap the internals over to the new motor, swap an AEB head on the new motor, go from there... dont over complicate it poops

[Poopie]

yeah. I'm trying to do everything on a budget now. Before i was gonna buy a 2000 avant..but the deal fell through. It was the perfect car to buy....well i can't find a decent a4 avant anymore. People are asking way too much for their cars these days.

[317ssayzarc]

sucks insurance didnt treat you right... this is why i deal with bare bones insurance, i figure the money i save will go towards an accident if i ever have one, and if i dont i have some money on my hands...

[SurferForever]

Sell the motor, buy an aeb head, scat rods, aeg crank, 83mm pistons, wala you have your self a 2.0 awm. Problem solved

good luck tryna find scat rods these days. Nobody is able to order them

[Poopie]

integrated engineering rods will do.

[solowb5]

Keep the AEB engine together. Just swap the AWM oil pan to the AEB bc it has the oil sensor unlike the AEB. Also you will not have VVT on the AEB. I forget if there is a sensor at the back of the head or not on the AEB. Yes keep the AWM software as stated before you can run mafless and just use the map sensor. It's also nice that you don't need to use the damn ignitor that the AEB uses. Also AWM coils need a little of the rubber trimmed on the coil packs to fit the head. That is all. Hope that helps.

[Poopie]

so you're saying swap the aeb into the 2001? just switch oil pans? I can put the vvt cam chain tensioner into the aeb head if I choose to. Yes, i definitely want to keep the awm ecu and such.

[Mawhitey]

You also need to keep the newer IM as the injectors and DBW throttle body etc or is that taken as read??

I would be dropping the AEB in, with the newer IM and maybe an AEB head, with the correct sump and VVT job done.

I had to go the otherway and put an APU ( small port) engine into my AEB engined 1998.5 A4

[Poopie]

I think I can still run the aeb intake manifold and just put the DBW throttle body on.

[Mawhitey]

I thought they had different sensors on them (IAT Specifically),You will also need the newer oil pressure switch as the connector is different to the AEB.

[solowb5]

He is reffering to the injector seats might be different. Atleast I think that is what he is talkng about. If you run the AEB manifold you will need to run the AEB injectors and fuel rail as they sit different then the AWM. IAT is the same.

[Mawhitey]

I knew the injectors and seats, i wasnt sure how they would affect the running ect with different rates/resistances .

It must be a Euro/US difference as i remember my APU having a sensor thing under the bottom of the IM.
At least if Poopie swaps it all over and it doesnt work, he has it all there to swap one bit at a time i suppose, so do it Poopie AEB FTW

[Poopie]

I"ll just figure out what works and what doesn't. I think the fuel rail will work. It has to or else i can't use the manifold since its a returnless system. I can probably swap the oil cooler set up to keep most of the plumbing the same.

[solowb5]

The AWM has a fuel return. Well my AWM does atleast. I've swapped over to the AEB also.

[Poopie]

nice, ok well it should go pretty easy. I have a deal for a 2001 audi a4 1.8t santorin blue agant in pristine condition. Hopefully picking i up for 6 - 6.5k

[bassed]

I think I can still run the aeb intake manifold and just put the DBW throttle body on.

Poop you're basically going to be doing exactly what u did. AEB head on AWM bottom end...
The injector seats and the AEB intake mani from the AEB with the TB from the AWM. You get the 2001 and just mix and match the best of both worlds.

[sean1.8t]

The AWM has a fuel return. Well my AWM does atleast. I've swapped over to the AEB also.

yeah, i was going to say. returnless fuel systems didn't start until 2002. which is

[quattro16]

Poopie you could use the aeb in the 2001 body. You have to switch oil pans, throttle body, some vac lines because the ports are opposite on the intake manifold. Also I use the Aeb head and mani and have no problems with the stock injector seats. And get the uni 630 file written for no cat, no sec air, no maf, and no vvt. It can be done. Thats what I use now just with vvt until I get cams. And no MIL

[Poopie]

I gotta give my props to tapp. Hes taken care of me. I gotta call and make sure i can still pass inspection with a cat delete and sai delete. If not, I'll go with a uni tune.

[redflagquattro]

He is reffering to the injector seats might be different. Atleast I think that is what he is talkng about. If you run the AEB manifold you will need to run the AEB injectors and fuel rail as they sit different then the AWM. IAT is the same.

You need to run an aeb rail with awm injectors with injector spacers. The awm injectors will fit in the aeb seats perfectly with a tiny touch of trimming.