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    Caliper bolts are off, tutorial on rear brakes.

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    Well I went in and got some low profile bolt offs. They worked okay, and they got the job done.

    The problem with those is they don't really "bite" by themselves. They need a lot of force to get them down, once they are pressed on they work great. The problem is getting them pressed on in a small space. It took two huge wrenches, a c clamp, and a long 24mm wrench.

    First off all, I don't think anyone should do calipers/rotor swaps w/o having a set of bolt outs, maybe it was just my car but when i went to get those carrier bolts off, I stripped a total of 4 around the car. Some tops, some bottoms, I used 3 torx bits as two of the bits even got rounded off, yes they were the 8mm or trx50 bits. (the proper size).
    blury picture but this is one that lost all its side points.


    Well if any of you do try and get your calipers off and get stuck here's a tutorial to do your rears.

    Jack up the car and take off the tire. Don't use the dinky tire jack that Audi gives you as its a piece of Cra* and when you start wrenching on the car even a little bit it will move just enough to make the jack fail and the car will fall, ask me how i know this.


    Next step is to identify which bolt out you will need, for these 8mm carrier bolts I needed an #8. (picture taken from under the car looking outside at the bolts)


    Next take off the caliper as you will need this hole to geta C-clamp in there.

    The wrenches you need for this part is an open 15mm and a closed 13mm. 15 to hold the nut still and 13 for the head. You will know what I mean when you get in there.


    Place the easy out on the head and press it on with your fingers as hard as possible.

    Take at least an 8" c-clamp and press on the bolt-out using the rotor as a back plate, get a piece of wood if you are not replacing the rotor and/or don't want to scar it.



    If and only if (IFF) you cant get your clamp in there do this, take two large wrenches, like 24+mm slip one in behind the bolt out and the other in front of the caliper parallel to the other, then use a press to get those wrenches together @ both top and bottom. This will compress the bolt-out onto the head.


    When they are compressed down on the bolt sufficiently release some of the pressure from the clamps but not all of it, w/o that light pressure the bolt out will just back/pop off when you go to wrench on it.


    Pull/push and swear a lot, and wala, stripped bolts removed!!


    I tried to smile but the sun was really brite and i was pissed.




    Happy wrenching




    P.S. You will not or should not re-use the stripped bolts after this (duh). Furthermore the upper bolt and lower bolt are diffrent, one is like a 1/4 inch shorter then the other. The lower bolt can be identified with these numbers # n 910 588 01 , 6-421, Q3-G.
    Dimensions are 10x1.25x6 I lost the packaging for the uppers. Ordering through ECS will take atleast 1-2 weeks as they dont carry these bolts in stock, and they order them as a complete set, 8. I think they were like $6
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    Re: Caliper bolts are off, tutorial on rear brakes.

    ^lol, nice face, jp...good write-up...you got the bolt off!

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    Re: Caliper bolts are off, tutorial on rear brakes.

    Good job! Way to get 'er done!

    Nice write-up.


    May I recommend you add in there to spray the bolts down with PB-Blaster prior to removal. It will help aide in removing the stubborn bolts.


    Do you need the p/n for the lower caliper bracket bolts? I had to buy two new ones and have the p/n at home. I can get it for you later tonight.
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    Re: Caliper bolts are off, tutorial on rear brakes.

    jack stands my friend... invest in them.

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    Re: Caliper bolts are off, tutorial on rear brakes.

    I was wrenching away when i felt the car move like 5 inches, and i was under the car. I ninja rolled out and looked at the jack, it was like this /
    Scared the hell out of me. (yes the wheels were chocked) went and got a floor jack after that and hammered in the chocks.
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    Re: Caliper bolts are off, tutorial on rear brakes.

    What brand of rotor is that? Where did you get? How much?

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    Re: Caliper bolts are off, tutorial on rear brakes.

    they guys that sells them in the group buy section. Adam i think. Great rotor, great price. (I got it on sale in march).
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    OMG, RETURN OF THE LIVING THREAD!!

    so i necro'd this thread because i just stripped the same exact bolt trying to swap in my rear s4 calipers yesterday. been doing research on stripped bolts and ran across this thread; unfortunately, OP didn't say what size bolt-out extractor he used and i'm trying to order a set off amazon...

    also, has anyone ever had any luck with these types of extractors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonan View Post
    OMG, RETURN OF THE LIVING THREAD!!

    so i necro'd this thread because i just stripped the same exact bolt trying to swap in my rear s4 calipers yesterday. been doing research on stripped bolts and ran across this thread; unfortunately, OP didn't say what size bolt-out extractor he used and i'm trying to order a set off amazon...

    also, has anyone ever had any luck with these types of extractors?

    never used those, but they look like they would work quite well. When I stripped the bolt, I removed the knuckle and just grinded the head off the bolt. Much easier than dealing with easy outs in that tight space. Just remember to get an alignment if you do it this way.
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    Never thought of doing this, but this is a good idea. Calipers weren't an issue, but I stripped both of top bolt heads on the bracket being careless. Learning from that, I was more careful and got the bottom ones out. I then took a hack saw, cut the heads off the top bolts loosening the bracket, which allowed me to remove the rotors, which then allowed me to get a grinder in to cut what was left of the bolts and remove the bracket. Four days waiting and four new bolts later, mine is back on the road. Enlightening or a guy from Texas to see what 105K miles in Omaha does to suspension and brake components. Should have seen the fun I had doing control arms...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyleswk View Post
    Never thought of doing this, but this is a good idea. Calipers weren't an issue, but I stripped both of top bolt heads on the bracket being careless. Learning from that, I was more careful and got the bottom ones out. I then took a hack saw, cut the heads off the top bolts loosening the bracket, which allowed me to remove the rotors, which then allowed me to get a grinder in to cut what was left of the bolts and remove the bracket. Four days waiting and four new bolts later, mine is back on the road. Enlightening or a guy from Texas to see what 105K miles in Omaha does to suspension and brake components. Should have seen the fun I had doing control arms...
    ugh, when i was in there changing out the front calipers i did notice a ton of rust everywhere, i should have taken photos...

    i started a 8am and didn't finish the fronts until 1pm...living in the northeast turns a one hour job into a four hour job because everything is rusted to sh*t...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJorge3442 View Post
    never used those, but they look like they would work quite well. When I stripped the bolt, I removed the knuckle and just grinded the head off the bolt. Much easier than dealing with easy outs in that tight space. Just remember to get an alignment if you do it this way.
    i think i'm going to give them a shot, if the bolt outs don't work then i'll try to remove them with these...

    still trying to figure out which size bolt out to use though...
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    Can I just cut the heads of the bolt off and remove caliper carrier from there, and try and spin out the remaining part of the bolt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportSter View Post
    I was wrenching away when i felt the car move like 5 inches, and i was under the car. I ninja rolled out and looked at the jack, it was like this /
    Scared the hell out of me. (yes the wheels were chocked) went and got a floor jack after that and hammered in the chocks.

    That jack is called the "Widow Maker" for a reason ;) At the very least, always throw the tire you remove under the rocker panel...this way if the car falls, you only wreck a rim...not crush your head.

    With regards to rusted on bolts. I have had GREAT success over the years with a mixture of 50/50 ATF/Acetone. Leave that on for 5 min and the bolts come right out. The ATF and Acetone will separate over time so be sure to shake/stir before you apply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Code 3 View Post
    Can I just cut the heads of the bolt off and remove caliper carrier from there, and try and spin out the remaining part of the bolt?
    yes. Good luck getting a tool in that space though.
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    If you get really stuck, you can source a new caliper carrier and drill the bolts out from the rotor side. Also, my carrier bolts were not Torx head bolts, they were 8mm allen head. I just happened to do rear brakes last night.

    Also, I know its and old post but WTF, using the factory car jack to do brakes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin C View Post
    If you get really stuck, you can source a new caliper carrier and drill the bolts out from the rotor side. Also, my carrier bolts were not Torx head bolts, they were 8mm allen head. I just happened to do rear brakes last night.

    Also, I know its and old post but WTF, using the factory car jack to do brakes?
    With no jack stands too .
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJorge3442 View Post
    With no jack stands too .
    I assume most evening/weekend warriors have been guilty of this more than they'd care to admit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gin+ View Post
    I assume most evening/weekend warriors have been guilty of this more than they'd care to admit.
    I will never get near a car that's not properly supported. I don't understand why people put trust in jacks. No thanks. I'll take the solid jack stand approached. Not to mention I shove my car as if it were a offensive lineman before I even start working on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJorge3442 View Post
    I will never get near a car that's not properly supported. I don't understand why people put trust in jacks. No thanks. I'll take the solid jack stand approached. Not to mention I shove my car as if it were a offensive lineman before I even start working on it.
    I just finger the tail pipe. If that doesnt make the car move, then nothing will.
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