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    Senior Member Three Rings
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    Will K04 or Pes t28 keep up....

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    Hey boys i have been doing a lot on searching and reading because i want to upgrade my turbo, first thing im a 2000 A4 1.8tQ tiptronic and have about 180km or 111846 miles i was wondering if im too high mileage. Secondly i heard the k04 has low end toque as low as 2000rpm, now does the Pes kit offer the same low end torque if not is there another kit that offers the same amount of low end torque, im not tracking my car just want to keep up to all those 2008 new cars out there ie 2008 Acura Tl type S which my boy just got and i think he has like 300hp but is still a Vtec

    thnx

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    Re: Will K04 or Pes t28 keep up....

    The PES kit will not have the same bottom end because it is a slightly larger turbo, but it will have more mid/top end power and more hp period. A larger turbo on your tip just means it will be slower to get moving off the line but once your moving it will have more power then the K04 in every way.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings SurferForever's Avatar
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    Re: Will K04 or Pes t28 keep up....

    TL type s only runs a mid-14 if i remember correctly, you can tech do that on a k03 with the right mods pretty easily
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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    Re: Will K04 or Pes t28 keep up....

    Quote Originally Posted by karmad View Post
    Hey boys i have been doing a lot on searching and reading because i want to upgrade my turbo, first thing im a 2000 A4 1.8tQ tiptronic and have about 180km or 111846 miles i was wondering if im too high mileage. Secondly i heard the k04 has low end toque as low as 2000rpm, now does the Pes kit offer the same low end torque if not is there another kit that offers the same amount of low end torque, im not tracking my car just want to keep up to all those 2008 new cars out there ie 2008 Acura Tl type S which my boy just got and i think he has like 300hp but is still a Vtec

    thnx
    Torque on the k04, and all supporting mods (except FMIC) and MTM chip is great. It does still leave a lot to be desired for the top end. Consider an upgraded valve body for the trans if you are going to the k04 or t28. Shifting can be a little flakey under high boost. The trans even in tip mode wants to down shift to a lower gear. Skip the tip chip and go straght for the valve body.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings AudiA4_20T's Avatar
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    Re: Will K04 or Pes t28 keep up....

    Quote Originally Posted by SurferForever View Post
    TL type s only runs a mid-14 if i remember correctly, you can tech do that on a k03 with the right mods pretty easily
    pretty easily? Have you been to the track?
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    Re: Will K04 or Pes t28 keep up....

    My T28 has pretty good high end power.
    I am a tip also, and it is tough to race from a dig and get right into the power band
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    Veteran Member Four Rings SurferForever's Avatar
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    Re: Will K04 or Pes t28 keep up....

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiA4_20T View Post
    pretty easily? Have you been to the track?
    its gonna be just as hard for them to pull that mid 14 as it will be for you . . .
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    Senior Member Three Rings
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    Re: Will K04 or Pes t28 keep up....

    thnx but is it safe to do the upgrade with this much mileage?

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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    Re: Will K04 or Pes t28 keep up....

    Quote Originally Posted by karmad View Post
    thnx but is it safe to do the upgrade with this much mileage?
    Trans is a pot luck thing. Mine failed at less than 70k when the car was stock. My friend has 180k on his, still going.
    Engine however do a compression and leakdown test to find out the general health of it, pull the valve cover to look for any indications of sludge. If all is well then go for it.
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    Senior Member Three Rings
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    Re: Will K04 or Pes t28 keep up....

    Thnx i think imma go with the K04 but i wanted something with a higher power band so when im cruising just throw into 4th to pass, can this be done with the K04 or do i need bigger

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    Re: Will K04 or Pes t28 keep up....

    The K04 power isn't going to be all that much more then you have with your K03.

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    Re: Will K04 or Pes t28 keep up....

    From what I am led to believe, a K04 is maybe 10-20 more hp than a chip w/exhaust. Not that much gain for the money invested when compared to a chip.

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