avic d3 or rsne?

[golgo13]

trying to figure out which one is the best bang for the buck. i know that with the avic i dont get the cool option of having the navi by the side of the speedometer but i think i will get over it (is there any way to do that?)
overall are there more options you have with the avic? any help or suggestion would help alot thanks.

[scorneil]

D3 is a lot cheaper, is touch screen, built-in dvd player

Generally people get the RNS if everything has to be OEM. If you can live without OEM the D3 has a lot more functionality.

Never heard of anyone getting the D3 to work in the dash.

Check this http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...=ultimate+avic

[absolutegtr]

I am going through the same ordeal.

I really want the OEM look, but now D3's are going for like $500 new!!!

[golgo13]

D3 is a lot cheaper, is touch screen, built-in dvd player

Generally people get the RNS if everything has to be OEM. If you can live without OEM the D3 has a lot more functionality.

Never heard of anyone getting the D3 to work in the dash.

Check this http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...=ultimate+avic

i never heard of it either but Im sure is possible somehow or at least i hope.

[golgo13]

D3 is a lot cheaper, is touch screen, built-in dvd player

Generally people get the RNS if everything has to be OEM. If you can live without OEM the D3 has a lot more functionality.

Never heard of anyone getting the D3 to work in the dash.

Check this http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...=ultimate+avic

Over all thanks for the comment

[CX-7&A4]

Go with the Kenwood based on the AVIC, the AVIC requires you to switch disks out for the navigation to work, this new one has an SD card.
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...d+DNX5120.html

[absolutegtr]

Go with the Kenwood based on the AVIC, the AVIC requires you to switch disks out for the navigation to work, this new one has an SD card.
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...d+DNX5120.html

I hate how everyone complains about the D3 requiring you to switch disks (from nav to music CD and vise versa)

CD's are a thing of the past, like cassettes, they are a dying technology....its alll about digital music, ie IPOD, etc

[CX-7&A4]

I'm not complaining, it's nuisance and there is a better version of the same navigation that eliminates this.

"Oh hey, I need to stop 300 eject the disk and put in the navigation disk so I can route the trip, sorry!"

How are you going to listen to that new CD you just picked up? With your iPod?
Digital music players don't even touch the sound quality of a CD.

[B6Lovin]

LOL @ the 300 comment.

THIS IS ---- turn left in 100m

[scorneil]

Me too. First of all there is only 2 discs for all of North America - how often do you cross the line between discs?

I can only see it being a problem if you are an avid CD listener. I have the Ipod cable, so I haven't picked up a CD in years.

I hate how everyone complains about the D3 requiring you to switch disks (from nav to music CD and vise versa)

CD's are a thing of the past, like cassettes, they are a dying technology....its alll about digital music, ie IPOD, etc

[edge19lw]

LOL @ the 300 comment.

THIS IS ---- turn left in 100m

HAHAHA!! you just made my day, good one!

[3.0L AUDI A4]

Rnse All The Way

[CX-7&A4]

Regardless, switching between disks for anything is crap. This new Kenwood doesn't require you to do that, what the fuck is the problem?

[eddier]

i just installed an avic-z1 and i love it :)

i used the RNS-e but i couldnt stand the no touch screen!

also, its really easy to upgrade your z1 (which is like 700 bucks on ebay) to the new z3 which goes for well over 1k.

[B6Lovin]

i was browsing and think i might give this a try -- i like the fact that it's bluetooth ready, comes with the ipod cables, has ample hook ups, etc etc

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...022.html#specs

[scorneil]

it's a several hundred dollar premium to not have to switch a disc. that would be my problem.

Regardless, switching between disks for anything is crap. This new Kenwood doesn't require you to do that, what the fuck is the problem?

[A4TUNE]

rnse looks so much better.

[eddier]

that unit seems a little too good to be true

[wifeysaudi]

rns-e <----my choice

[windyctyaudi]

i just installed an avic-z1 and i love it :)

i used the RNS-e but i couldnt stand the no touch screen!

also, its really easy to upgrade your z1 (which is like 700 bucks on ebay) to the new z3 which goes for well over 1k.

have any pics of this in you car??? i wanted to get the Z2 but haven't yet because i'm not to sure what it will look like in the dash

[Maverick]

Rns-e

[AudiAdi]

RNS-E! One of the reasons I bought an Audi is because of how superior the interior looks to other brands. Getting an aftermarket unit kills that.

[b6onboost]

the RNS-E looks great, but the D3 is a much better unit. comes down to which is more important...features and price...or...oem looks.

[monkey323i]

functionality -> D3

better fitment looking ->RNS-E



Itz all depend on wut u want more.
D3 has all the goods:
- easier TO use navi !!! (easy touch + 12Million point of interests)
- Ipod interface !!! (Itz 21centruy, no ore old school 20 songs per CD, thx)
(one touch and there goes your hundreds playlists + thousands of songs)
- watch Videos on D3 via iPOD
- Play playstation/xbox on ur A4
- a lot of optional add-ons, Rear-back-up camera, bluetooth intergration, XM/Sirus, etc.



for RNS-E:
well, a good looking OEM finish....




I installed my D3 last year with back-up rear camera and iPod intergation.
I have to admit, the aftermarket looking isn't that perfect as rns-e.
but think about the convenience and entertainment you're going to enjoy everyday from now on!!

[monkey323i]

Here is my D3:

sorry if the pic is a bit blurry, I took with my cell's camera.

[mxrz]

Digital music players don't even touch the sound quality of a CD.

What a stupid argument... How do you get sound out of a CD? Do you hear anything if you put a CD next to your ear? A CD is just media, and you need a playback device to use it, and guess what, none of these car CD players can even come close to what a CD is capable of. You need close to 200,000$ worth of Class A stereo hardware to get the most out of a CD (unless it was recorded on shitty studio hardware). But regardless of that, digital music players can be loaded with the same quality media, because it's not very hard to rip that CD and upload it to an iPod in uncompressed WAV format. My point is, the audio quality limiting factors will be the head unit (playback device), the quality of the car speakers, the location of the speakers, and the geometry of the physical space inside the car, which includes anyone sitting in it. Whether your media is a physical CD or digitized version inside a music player... becomes almost irrelevant in terms of what you hear.

[monkey323i]

What a stupid argument... How do you get sound out of a CD? Do you hear anything if you put a CD next to your ear? A CD is just media, and you need a playback device to use it, and guess what, none of these car CD players can even come close to what a CD is capable of. You need close to 200,000$ worth of Class A stereo hardware to get the most out of a CD (unless it was recorded on shitty studio hardware). But regardless of that, digital music players can be loaded with the same quality media, because it's not very hard to rip that CD and upload it to an iPod in uncompressed WAV format. My point is, the audio quality limiting factors will be the head unit (playback device), the quality of the car speakers, the location of the speakers, and the geometry of the physical space inside the car, which includes anyone sitting in it. Whether your media is a physical CD or digitized version inside a music player... becomes almost irrelevant in terms of what you hear.

agree.


also, u can't really notice the difference betwee 320kbps+ bitrate MP3 and CD.

[Joesturbo]

I hate to tell you guys that you can hear the difference if you have the ear... I know after working for a sterio shop for many years. In a car with background noise from the road and engine noise it makes it difficult to hear the slight difference but if you have the ear to hear it you can and will. Also some recordings will not reproduce the full bandwidth of sound - like bass for example, but you have to have the right equipment to hear what should be there or is missing.

I know the Pioneers (like stated before) have many "add on's" that oem does not have.... For the cheap Jensen unit, no way in hell that chaep unit would make it into my interior...

If I did not have free Sirius radio in my car I would have the Pioneer unit...

[CX-7&A4]

iPods have decent sound quality for playback on a sound system in a car, but they clip at high volumes, Even the cheap base audio system on the Audi, the difference between the sound quality of a uncompressed format from an iPod and a redbook audio CD is very noticeable. With the AAC format from iTunes in 128kbps you're only getting 1/3 of original sound tracks quality, and the iPod's sound quality isn't even all that great to begin with.

Just because they can be loaded with a lossless format doesn't mean it's going to sound as good, or the same. I could load my blackberry with 320kbps .mp3 sound tracks all day and play it through my car's headunit and it still sounds like shit vs the same tracks burnt onto a CD.

I do have a completely RAMMAATed car and custom sound but still.

[scorneil]

if you get the D3 and the Pioneer Sirius module you can call Sirius and get your account transferred to the new receiver. I did this with no problem.

If I did not have free Sirius radio in my car I would have the Pioneer unit...

[monkey323i]

I meant 320kbps+ MP3...

of cuz it wont sound that crisp at 128kbps.


If you want to be very picky and talk about the very very small difference while you STOP the engine at a nearly 0 dBa enviromment, (without normal speaker system but the $1000+ upgraded hell good sound system including pro subwoofer)
320+kbps MP3 vs CD-Quality.
sure u r right. CD-Quality is better.



most of the ppl here we either drive in city or highway, so does this tiny bit really that matter?

Itz like everyday u drive an A4 in city, itz ALREADY comfort and convenient, u r still whining about how itz not as fast as Ferrari.

if u still want to talk about which one is the best of audio quality, go talk about dvd-audio or other latest advanced tech audio format.

ppl here are talking about which one to pick between D3 and RNE-S.

please just keep it simple and REALISTIC.
thx~~

there u go~

[Joesturbo]

if you get the D3 and the Pioneer Sirius module you can call Sirius and get your account transferred to the new receiver. I did this with no problem.

The problem is my radio is not registered with Sirius by me... it just never stopped working once the 1year freebe... So I would not think they would transfer over to something that the car came with. If it does stop working, I will switch over to the Pioneer - but the wife likes it to much at this moment to loose this freebe...

Did you car come with a free subscription?

[mxrz]

iPods have decent sound quality for playback on a sound system in a car, but they clip at high volumes, Even the cheap base audio system on the Audi, the difference between the sound quality of a uncompressed format from an iPod and a redbook audio CD is very noticeable. With the AAC format from iTunes in 128kbps you're only getting 1/3 of original sound tracks quality, and the iPod's sound quality isn't even all that great to begin with.

Just because they can be loaded with a lossless format doesn't mean it's going to sound as good, or the same. I could load my blackberry with 320kbps .mp3 sound tracks all day and play it through my car's headunit and it still sounds like shit vs the same tracks burnt onto a CD.

I do have a completely RAMMAATed car and custom sound but still.

Your assumption that the iPod is inferior to the CD player inside the RNS-E for example, is false. Stereophile reviewed the iPod, and concluded that it is superior to many CD players. And that was only the third generation iPod. It got much better over the years. Not to mention there are better quality music players than the iPod, which I used only as an example, because the stock audio system is *FAR* from good enough to make a decent comparison. CD's by nature have a rather cold sound and some digital processors warm it up a bit, trying to make it more natural, and some don't. So just because you can hear a difference doesn’t mean one or the other is more accurate.
I’ve done my own tests with an iPod hooked up to a Mark Levinson stereo system (pre-amp, twin mono power amps, and Meridian speakers), and It took a Spectral CD transport with external DACs to best the iPod in a clear manner.

Btw, who cares about 128kbps compression, or even 320kbps? It’s trash… We're talking about quality here, so assume the digital file is in a 100% lossless format.

[pyro]

z1 or bust. you can get it for the same price as a d3 now a days...cant beat a built in HD and upgrades to Z3 territory for free.

[absolutegtr]

Does anyone have pics of a Z3 in their car?

I am and have been dead set on the D3....just like the physical layout...and the button, lol

The Z3 has no button, correct?

[CX-7&A4]

The 3rd gen's sound quality was shrill, and the bass was poor, and every review on the sq of the system echoed this.
The iPod clips and it's reason enough for me to never play through my audio system again, not to mention the hiss that drove me up the wall.
CD's played through my CX-7's audio system sounds better than the CD ripped to WAV on iTunes and put on an iPod.
--un-sub, way off topic.

[golgo13]

z1 or bust. you can get it for the same price as a d3 now a days...cant beat a built in HD and upgrades to Z3 territory for free.

isnt the z1 the one you have in your car??? i didnt get to see it that well but I really dont like the flip screen it looks cheap in my opinion.

get pics nig

[golgo13]

nevermind i searched it you dont have the z1 or at least thats not what i thought i saw. d3 looks better than the z1 what are the major differences?

[golgo13]

searched againn i should just stop posting lol the z1 has 30GB of mem while the D3 has 15GB and the z1 is a 7incher while the d3 is 6 and some . everything else seems preety much the same

[eddier]

Here are pics of a z3 installed in a b6 a4 :)

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205813