2.7t - new guys, old questions

[wofman]

Hoping to avoid the ctfa response; was back and forth with PMs with another newcomer to world of 2.7s. He doing chip mod, me having gotten one with purchase. We know DVs needed, presumably some hoses and piggie pipes (gutted) to take advantage of chip. SO...Question is: where do we get biggest bang for buck on utilizing the extra power generated, ensuring it gets to the rubber? Exhaust (2.5 or 3 and what else), intakes, throttle body boots, engine mounts, "tipchips", etc.?

wofman

[dannyn424]

save money for maintenance dude!!!!!!!

[p.tony]

can you post a pic of your car w/ s4 wheels. Wonder what it looks like.

[Gigi]

Hoping to avoid the ctfa response; was back and forth with PMs with another newcomer to world of 2.7s. He doing chip mod, me having gotten one with purchase. We know DVs needed, presumably some hoses and piggie pipes (gutted) to take advantage of chip. SO...Question is: where do we get biggest bang for buck on utilizing the extra power generated, ensuring it gets to the rubber? Exhaust (2.5 or 3 and what else), intakes, throttle body boots, engine mounts, "tipchips", etc.?

wofman

Exhaust will get yuo just a few ponies and little more... maybe sound depending on which one.
Intake, assuming you're talking about CAI, is a waste fo $$$. skip that
TBB is a MUST but expect no power inicrease, just reliability, the OEM one is a POS
Mounts: no power incraese, but less rocking under load, more direct power transfer
tip chip: the one I got from VAST made a big difference for the $. I would recommend it.
as fo power the biggest gains are CHIP, then Piggies.... after that spend $$ for stage 3

[Alpinevelo]

Hoping to avoid the ctfa response; was back and forth with PMs with another newcomer to world of 2.7s. He doing chip mod, me having gotten one with purchase. We know DVs needed, presumably some hoses and piggie pipes (gutted) to take advantage of chip. SO...Question is: where do we get biggest bang for buck on utilizing the extra power generated, ensuring it gets to the rubber? Exhaust (2.5 or 3 and what else), intakes, throttle body boots, engine mounts, "tipchips", etc.?

wofman

Probably exhaust and tip chip. There is an endless debate regarding whether an intake will give you any type of performance at all. I hear that the standard intake is quite good as is... I have the tip chip and it does make a difference.

Welcome to the forum BTW!

[skiroad'r]

Probably exhaust and tip chip. There is an endless debate regarding whether an intake will give you any type of performance at all. I hear that the standard intake is quite good as is... I have the tip chip and it does make a difference.

Welcome to the forum BTW!

Chip is most bang for buck
Tip chip has modest benefit
piggies, exhaust small benefit
Intakes -- I think stock is best. It's a cold air intake and cutting holes in the box or adding a cone filter will only pull hot air from engine bay

Unless you want to go with bigger turbos and fueling kits etc. The chip pretty much maxes out the turbos without frying them.

Remember to keep a budget for preentative maintenace and maybe better brakes or suspension components.

[wofman]

will post pix with S4 wheels (I am in minority and went for 17's to best mesh with suspension -- Eibach in future)

and still looking for lip spoiler!

thanks for posts

wofman

[IzeBerg]

if adding piggies....will s4 ones fit (assuming they are for the right tranny) or is there a difference in room under there between the a6 and s4

oh and also if going a full exhaust route is 2.5" better or 3" (and this is after chipped not stock)

[skiroad'r]

pretty sure S4 will not work -- exhaust layout is totally different.

RS6 is perfect fit
have not seen any comps of 2.5" v 3.0" re perfromance. Ask you tuner his thoughts

[votblindub]

best bang for the bug is the ecu chip. piggie pipes help also, it spools a smidge easier and adds some more hp to it. you need the DV's because the OEM membranes will not hold up too too long because of added psi. so you wana do them at the time of the chip. you technically wont need the super expensive ones, unless u plan to build a full blown race car. i have 710N's. the ones from the TT and they work perfectly fine. u dont need to change the throttle body. buying an intake for our motor is a waste of money. they add 0 power. buy a K&N intake filter and leave the rest alone. piggie pipes are a simpler easier alternative to an exhaust. i asked around and i got quoted WAY too much for piggies. a local shop built my exhaust for the same amount as piggies, so i just spent a bit more and had a full turboback built. a tipchip is something for a tiptronic tranny, just helps it shift a smidge faster, but has no real impact on power at the wheels. keep in mind the throttle body boot. thats the Y shaped rubber piece right by the throttle body. im told that those may dry out and crack with age causing a boost leak. theres 2 ways to fix it. the cheaper way is to get a silicone one and replace it or buy a bipipe. this is a metal pipe. this replaces the 2 plastic pieces upfront with a single metal one that fits up to the throttle body. this option is much more expensive and sometimes it has a fitting thats not milled oit to fit the throttle body 100%, so u may have to finetune it with some sandpaper. mine is still the original rubber piece and no problems.

[wofman]

great replies -- thanks

got car with piggies and looks like (mostly) original exhaust still in good shape

[votblindub]

great replies -- thanks

got car with piggies and looks like (mostly) original exhaust still in good shape

mines in great shape, u wana buy it? otherwise i gotta go to a scrap metal place and see if theyll take it

[wofman]

think I'll wait 'til necessity rears its head
but thanks

[Digga]

Exhaust will get yuo just a few ponies and little more... maybe sound depending on which one.
Intake, assuming you're talking about CAI, is a waste fo $$$. skip that
TBB is a MUST but expect no power inicrease, just reliability, the OEM one is a POS
Mounts: no power incraese, but less rocking under load, more direct power transfer
tip chip: the one I got from VAST made a big difference for the $. I would recommend it.
as fo power the biggest gains are CHIP, then Piggies.... after that spend $$ for stage 3

I run APR 93 program, what do I have to do to get a TIP Chip? Do I have to send out the ECU or is there a flash load option?

[wofman]

Digga - thought you had 6 sp tran...

[Digga]

Digga - thought you had 6 sp tran...

Nope.... i'm stuck granny shifting. What's worse is right now my TIP is set to auto shift..... I am trying to meet with someone local w/ a VAG to fix that.

I bet these cars are fun in a 6spd though, cause I am walkin on people in auto