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    Here is my HOW TO - LEDS in headlamps.

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    Better LEDs (install is the same-mounting however needs some innovative tinkering
    This MOD is a simple, but a very tedious project. Have patience, time and good music to keep you entertained.

    I would have opted for OEM parts, but just like most, I tried to do this at best at lowest budget possible.
    This mod may not be for all, so please keep negative comments to yourself.
    Thanks foremost for those who gave me thumbs up on this project and those who have helped me give the suggestions and instructions of how to remove bumper, and headlights and also install HIDs.



    Used FK projections with Angel eyes: $225.00 (I disabled the halos)
    Oznium Flexible LED strips 19"x3 : $ 60.00 (now using 4Chip LEDS- much better and reliable!!!!)
    VVME H7 6000k HID kit : $42.00 (x2 -got a set for my passat too-plus ridicilous shipping ($106.00total)
    Heat Gun: $10.00!
    I already have all the other tools, parts i need in the garage:
    Silicone, 3m double sided mounting tape, pliers, cleaning stuff, etc.

    Pictures of FKs, LEDs, heat gun,





    There are many websites offering LEDs- but I found Oznium to be reasonable and so far good products. I ordered previously from them- same type of LEDs for my FOG grills. They were on my car almost 3 months- unprotected other than it's own encasing and it has survived rain, heat, cold, carwash, 100+mph speeds. see older photo below with the LOWER LEDS... I have since disconnected them..well, not really- I am adding a switch for the lower LEDs - as auxilliary lighting when the need arises...


    The inside area where the LEDs will be placed is about 18". Oznium sells them at different sizes, one being 19". But it can be cut (there is mark where you can cut it w/out affecting powersource)

    I tried the oven but ended up using the heatgun which i found a lot easier to work with (I've reopened these lamps for 3 times already..dont ask me why--it was my own faults- errors-- but i'll try to save you all from making the mistakes i made)
    Start heating the seams between the lens and the housing. Give a distance of about 6" as you dont want to melt your lenses. About 10" of continuous blast of heat gun, going round and round and round....
    The picture below shows i'm holding the Lamp, but in actuality, i had it sitting on a plastic crate most of the time im blasting it with the heat gun.


    HAVE PATIENCE! When you start prying it.. You can use a flat wide screwdriver to pry it AT THE BOTTOM to loosen up the seams..BUT- dont over do it!!! that was one of my mistakes... USE gloves, or be stupid like me as in the photos. At any rate, keep blasting it with the heat gun if you feel that it is still very difficult..IT WILL EVENTUALLY PRY OFF! AND WATCH FOR THE STICKY GLUE/TAR LIKE SUBSTANCE THEY USE. Once off, clean the lens off with all the crud stuck to it. As for the glue in the housing--- leave it!!! you will use that later to re-seal the lamps.



    Once apart, you will see a black piece trim attached to the lens. It is secured with 2 screws at the bottom.. remove them!




    Once they're separated. You can start installing the LEDs- I used a clear 3m double sided tape to secure the bottom of the LEDs. Then used a
    black sturdy foam pieces also secured with a double side tape to keep them in place. You don't have to go all out with securing them with glue or otherstuff.. the black trim that you have temporarily removed will press it down securely once in place.



    By the way, there is a built in wire for the LED and I opted to have the wires on the inside end of the lamp (underneath the high beam area) But again, the wires will be hidden under the black trim piece once put back together.


    **The LED strip is abuot 1/4 in height. So as you can see on the following photos- the black trim will be raised of that same height, and you will notice that the black side trim will no longer fit. YOU have to cut it off from the main lower black piece- and then you are going to cut the lower black trim to accomodate a big enough gap for that side trim to fit.
    see pic:




    Once you have it all trimmed (i had to use a black marker to hide the scratches i created trimming the piece) you should be able to secure the black lower trim to press down on the LEDs, screw them back in there, and also add the now separated side trim- which should fit properly with the little cut you had to make. (see picture above again!) It should hold itself up since there's a small intrusion on the top of the lens to "hook" it too.. you'll see it.. MAKE SURE THAT SIDE TRIM is properly set in its area or otherwise it may block the movement of the inside housing (for beam adjusting) That was my other mistake...
    The lower black trim now also acts as a hood/shade for the LEDs So they can be seen during the day and also minimizes any light spill into the housing.

    Now you're ready to heat up the glue that was left in the main housing.
    Once they're soft and gooey-- you can them add the lens back and press them really good! I used a big plier with paddings to press the seams together.. I did this all myself--BUT IT WILL BE EASIER IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER SET OF HANDS HELPING YOU.


    I used silicone to fill the seams to ensure water tightness (fingers crossed). Mind you, putting it back together may not be as clean/perfect as it was before you started working on it.. That's why use silicone to just fill in any gaps. DO NOT USE SILICONE TO REPLACE THE GLUE THAT HOLDS THESE LENSES. SILICONE ARE HEAT RESISTANT AND DOES NOT MELT WITH HEAT GUN- in the event that you have to reopen the headlamps..IF EVER...
    The wires are then routed through the lamp- and exited via a small rubber tube- its the actual 'vent' for condensation heat-- you'll see at the back of the headlamp unit. The wires are then tapped in to the parking lamp wires. I ran a wire from the passenger side LED- (hidden under the engine bay weather strip- then connected with the driver side LED wires- tapped into the driver side parking lamp. The LEDs turns on with the parking lamps.
    AND HERE YA GO..



    The better LEDS



    I have since upgraded all driving LEDs to the 4chip leds. They are individual LEDs with 5x brighter output (almost matching a 1watt LED) and lasts long (same set still since i started last year with the 4chip LEDs and have worked flowlessly> The concept to install is the same- however, you would need to customize a mounting material for the LEDs.



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    Re: Here is my HOW TO - LEDS in headlamps.

    oops my bad.. all fixed now..


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    Re: Here is my HOW TO - LEDS in headlamps.

    wow! good job bro!

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    Re: Here is my HOW TO - LEDS in headlamps.

    We need more DIYs for the A3s here. Post up the full thing here so we can get an A3 DIY/FAQ going like we have for the the other models!

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    Re: Here is my HOW TO - LEDS in headlamps.

    Nice clean looking install!
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    Re: Here is my HOW TO - LEDS in headlamps.

    Good Job Man
    Just A4 ... A4 which we know
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    Re: Here is my HOW TO - LEDS in headlamps.

    This can be done on the A4s too... I got this idea from the spanish A4 (i beleive from
    Audisport Iberia) But I beleive that the LEDs i used are much brighter than the one
    used for that A4.
    Pictures doesn't do justice how bright these little things are!

    HID drop in kit was fairly straight-forward. It is a b*tch to work
    with the bulb install in these FKs!(H7 instead of H11)
    I dont think I would have been able to do it if the headlamps were already installed on the car. The HID ballast fit properly in a ingress under the headlamp unit and a secured with 3m mounting tapes...
    The cut offs are vey prominent on and i'm happy with the light output.

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    Re: Here is my HOW TO - LEDS in headlamps.

    Thanks for editing your original post, and putting up the entire write-up.

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    Re: Here is my HOW TO - LEDS in headlamps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
    Thanks for editing your original post, and putting up the entire write-up.
    no problem.

    next are taillights!

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    Re: Here is my HOW TO - LEDS in headlamps.

    Quote Originally Posted by tiptronic View Post
    no problem.

    next are taillights!
    Cool. And to let you know, I copied this write-up over to our DIY section: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205172

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    Quote Originally Posted by prodrive View Post
    Good Job Man
    wow all the way from Turkey! I Was there for a meditterenean cruise- Istanbul and Kusadasi! Beautiful country! Handsome and Beautiful People!!!


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    * cough cough *

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    Re: Here is my HOW TO - LEDS in headlamps.

    hi, my led strip is one LED to long and was wondering if i can cut the end one off without ruining the whole thing..thanks!

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    Re: Here is my HOW TO - LEDS in headlamps.

    Quote Originally Posted by hurricane860 View Post
    hi, my led strip is one LED to long and was wondering if i can cut the end one off without ruining the whole thing..thanks!
    Those LED strips are daisy-chained in increments of 3- if you cut one led off a set of 3- the two remaining in the group will not work.
    I thought i have expressed before not to use the LED (flexible) strips if you are installing in the headlamps- they dont last long... or some of the leds will fail after few uses. I have since been using Oznium's 4Chip LEDs- they are individual leds with built in resistor with 5x more output and brightness (almost matches that of a 1watt led).




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    Re: Here is my HOW TO - LEDS in headlamps.

    nice mod, excellent job.

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    Re: Here is my HOW TO - LEDS in headlamps.

    is there any soldering involved in the new leds? lso ive notice your new LEDs dont extend out to the turn signals was that your choice or the limit it can be reached at.

    thanks

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    Re: Here is my HOW TO - LEDS in headlamps.

    Quote Originally Posted by hurricane860 View Post
    is there any soldering involved in the new leds? lso ive notice your new LEDs dont extend out to the turn signals was that your choice or the limit it can be reached at.

    thanks
    The LEDs can be purchased pre-wired. the only solderiing you would do is when wiring them to your power source (if you so choose to solder rather than using wire taps or connectors.)
    As far as the LEDs not extending out- it's a design decision to end it at a certain point - aesthetics. I have a second set of headlamps i am modding with a different mounting materials- but the project is dragging at the moment. The current LEDs have seen more than 10k miles of use without any issues.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tiptronic View Post
    The LEDs can be purchased pre-wired. the only solderiing you would do is when wiring them to your power source (if you so choose to solder rather than using wire taps or connectors.)
    As far as the LEDs not extending out- it's a design decision to end it at a certain point - aesthetics. I have a second set of headlamps i am modding with a different mounting materials- but the project is dragging at the moment. The current LEDs have seen more than 10k miles of use without any issues.

    by any chance is their a future with posting a tutorial with these LED's and the mounting equipment used in this project? Unfortunatley im using flexible LED's on my current projects with the a set of old headlights i have, if they fail miserably i might just have to go the new LED mod.

    thanks again for the quick response!

    edit:

    also are they 3mm or 5mm?
    and are these them?

    http://www.oznium.com/prewired-leds

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    looks AMAZING! if you sold headlamp sets like that, I'd definitely pay for one, I wish I had time and skills to pull a project like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by jordnalos View Post
    looks AMAZING! if you sold headlamp sets like that, I'd definitely pay for one, I wish I had time and skills to pull a project like that
    I don't have time anymore to do stuff to my A3, so I would definitely agree to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zdawgz View Post
    I don't have time anymore to do stuff to my A3, so I would definitely agree to that.
    I would if i had the time too! =) i have an ongoing project - 2nd set of FK headlamps sitting in the garage disassembled as Im trying out new materials. Same 4chip leds, but customizing it with proper reflector/collimators(LED lens) for a far more better output and true DRL function so they can be seen better in the daytime. Needless to say- I get headaches when i start brainstorming on it.
    At the same time, i need to make a template so i can eventually make new ones for y'all (if ever) NOt a cheap hobby lol (an LED lens- that would creat a magnified and conformed output- at least with a 25degree viewing angle costs about $3.00 each, plus housing and reflectors-- and again the headache of how i can fit them in there without destroying the OEM aesthetics.... or i can revert back to the original design-like above, with the aluminum tubes.

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    Re: Here is my HOW TO - LEDS in headlamps.

    who would have thought doing this project would put my transmission in limp mode lol now thats classic.

    put the headlights in, a fuse shorted..fixed the fuse then turned the car on to find out my car is in limp mode motherR$^&^&. but the lights worked! just gotta take the car to the dealership and pay who knows how much to reset the tcm.

    still in love with the lights tho ahha

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    Awesome job man, you think you can do the same thing to stock headlights on an b6, a4? I've ordered the 4 chip leds to do my fog grills & if i do that well i was gonna give it a go on my headlights too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiptronic View Post
    The LEDs can be purchased pre-wired. the only solderiing you would do is when wiring them to your power source (if you so choose to solder rather than using wire taps or connectors.)
    As far as the LEDs not extending out- it's a design decision to end it at a certain point - aesthetics. I have a second set of headlamps i am modding with a different mounting materials- but the project is dragging at the moment. The current LEDs have seen more than 10k miles of use without any issues.

    also what is it you used here to mount the LED's in, i am assuming its some sort of tube 3/8 to put the led inside? and what did you use to space them out?

    thx

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