yo guys. if anyone is interested there is a place in Edison, NJ that has the avic d3 for $699. the rebate is good from them so in turn you get it for $500. Guy is cool and has a lot of em. if you're goin give him a call to make sure he has them cause when i was there there was another guy getting one too. he says he's averaging 2-3 a day and he sold 8 on saturday. just a heads up.