Popular Lemmi tweaks for an OTS kit?

[amd is the best]

Hey everyone, I was wondering if anyone had any insight on makeing some Lemmi tweaks to my APR Stage 3? Just curious as to what are some common places to start.

Thanks in advance,
Nick

[Shomegrown]

SEL scaling to 30%.

[Rican_S4]

Hey everyone, I was wondering if anyone had any insight on makeing some Lemmi tweaks to my APR Stage 3? Just curious as to what are some common places to start.

Thanks in advance,
Nick

I'm not saying you don't know what you're doing but I would NOT recommend anyone tweaking their car unless they know 110% what they are doing. Quick way to make an engine go boom.

[KompMan420]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it...

[AK1RA07]

SEL scaling to 30%.

stop giving away secrets!

[ThirdStrike]

Hey everyone, I was wondering if anyone had any insight on makeing some Lemmi tweaks to my APR Stage 3? Just curious as to what are some common places to start.

Thanks in advance,
Nick

log first
second get lemiwinks
3rd tweak SLOWLY... i.e. settings advances in .75 increments ...
"unisettings" is also a good tweaking software to try

[The_Jerbel]

stop giving away secrets!

LOL....you unleashed the beast. Now everyone will be running 2.8 FATS times. My car won't be special anymore when every young punk with an S4 can run the same times as me....haha

[amd is the best]

I don't understand why you guys feel that this is top secret information that should not be shared with anyone. I am not an expert at this by any means, but I can tell you for sure that lemmi and anything like it is a half ass cob job and is not the proper way to adjust anything. I have built my own standalone ECU's and tuned cars from scratch. I understand how a car should run and how an engine should be tuned, its just this software uses terms that are not common in the standalone world.

I do appreciate those who had positive posts.

Nick

[tdi_logik]

bump for makin this thing go faster!

[JaredVL]

Ch 01 to -1280 for starters, then slowly tweak from there.

[momento1]

SEL scaling to 30%.

is that scaling it up, to read 130%?

or scaling it down to read just 30% on lemmiwinks?

[JaredVL]

That will give you 70% different boost than stock, good for lower FATS times.

Dont go over board though, setting it to 10% is about as crazy as you want to push it before your N75 will fully open and just flow crazy boost. Get ready to see plaid.

[exorcet]

umm.. before you do any lemmitweaks you should log a couple runs and see where it stands now. why make tweaks if you don't know what needs tweaking??

I think the responses are due to the fact you're looking for an answer nobody can give.. sometimes fuel needs to be pulled, sometimes added. sometimes timing needs to be advanced, sometimes retarded. unless you know what is going on with your car AS IS no advice can be given.

oh and read this:
http://homepage.mac.com/edyjun1/S4/Lemmiwinks.htm

[exorcet]

That will give you 70% different boost than stock, good for lower FATS times.

Dont go over board though, setting it to 10% is about as crazy as you want to push it before your N75 will fully open and just flow crazy boost. Get ready to see plaid.

I hear ya.. last time I went to 10% i almost blew my engine load. people forget that it scales exponentially based on the torque curve.

[momento1]

That will give you 70% different boost than stock, good for lower FATS times.

Dont go over board though, setting it to 10% is about as crazy as you want to push it before your N75 will fully open and just flow crazy boost. Get ready to see plaid.

so by changing the channel to read 30% SEL is considered safer then setting it to 10%
However would you see gains considerably starting from say 80% and decreasing it bit by bit to say the 30% mark or higher?

[JaredVL]

I am all about sharing, here is what I ran for years. Now keep in mind this was mostly used for racing back in the VLM days, it built boost at idle. i dont suggest this unless you have a wide band and wanna go fast.

[momento1]

minus 68 deg of timing???????????

[exorcet]

minus 68 deg of timing???????????

dude you HAVE to with the idle offset. I would have increased Lambda regulation to -20 myself.. you just can't have them adjust too fast with that timing. Every bit helps.

Oh BTW Jared -- is that the "official" STaSiS tune... or the one you ran on fat black?

[JaredVL]

minus 68 deg of timing???????????

Do you want to go fast or not?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldEkl6hlKjg

[JaredVL]

dude you HAVE to with the idle offset. I would have increased Lambda regulation to -20 myself.. you just can't have them adjust too fast with that timing. Every bit helps.

Oh BTW Jared -- is that the "official" STaSiS tune... or the one you ran on fat black?

That was way before STaSIS. They prefer much more timing and less fuel.

I would never run that on a customers car, but on mine I didnt mind all the power.

[PiggieSmalls]

Hey everyone, I was wondering if anyone had any insight on makeing some Lemmi tweaks to my APR Stage 3? Just curious as to what are some common places to start.

Thanks in advance,
Nick

APR stage 3 is pretty damn good right off the shelf. I don't think you'll be able to accomplish much by tweaking. Oh, and ignore these jokesters giving you horrible advice. Reducing SEL scaling will make you much slower because it will reduce the amount of boost you make.

[amd is the best]

You all are 100% tools (except serious poster).

[Rican_S4]

You all are 100% tools (except serious poster).

So we're tools but you're the one trying to make modifications to the car w/o understanding what the hell you're really doing...

Riiiigghhhtttt

[The_Jerbel]

amd,
What you're asking is just like somebody going to the doctor and asking what some common prescriptions are to try out.

You need logs to see how your car is running before deciding if something needs to be tweaked.

[momento1]

Do you want to go fast or not?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldEkl6hlKjg

riiight

[AB18]

I can't believe some are actaully taking some of this advice seriosly, haha. I can already see a few new threads tomorrow.." My car just stopped in the middle of a fats pull, i got out and oil and coolant were everywhere!, i changed my settings to EXACTLY what the guy from stasis suggested"

[tdi_logik]

You all are 100% tools (except serious poster).

tweaks did nothing... except make the car run like ass. shits ganked

[amd is the best]

I more or less asked for an explanation for what each setting in lemmi did, and pen15's (even people who you would think would be repitable) post up what to do without any explanation. It's tough to learn how to use somthing when there is little to no documentation on this software and/or you think that its some kind of top secret thing that no one should know, because god forbid some one made their car faster then yours.

My statement holds true, people that posted 100% false and useless information would show up on the tool list. Rather then helping me, you posted shit that could have potentially damaged my car....much appreciated.

[The_Jerbel]

Here ya go:
Lemmi explanation

[///M3 TO S4]

I am all about sharing, here is what I ran for years. Now keep in mind this was mostly used for racing back in the VLM days, it built boost at idle. i dont suggest this unless you have a wide band and wanna go fast.

roflmao.........you are truly an amazing person

[amd is the best]

Here ya go:
Lemmi explanation

That was exactally what I was looking for, and I appreciate that. I am just not sure why people, including yourself had to preceed to introduce poor information that someone could attempt to use. Not cool at all. I hope no one else sees this thread in a search and goes ahead and tries some of these sweet recomendations out.

Again, thank you for the quality informational material.

[The_Jerbel]

You're welcome..... And what poor information did I give?

In my first post I was having a little fun, that's allowed, last I checked. In the second post I was responding to your original question, which asked what some common lemmi tweaks were, and in no way did you ask for an explanation of what the different lemmi channels did.

[amd is the best]

You're welcome..... And what poor information did I give?

In my first post I was having a little fun, that's allowed, last I checked. In the second post I was responding to your original question, which asked what some common lemmi tweaks were, and in no way did you ask for an explanation on what the different lemmi channels did.

I suppose I posted my question a little wrong. I am all about learning and would not want someones great tune or tweak info and just throw it at my car. I know that there is a lot that goes into tuning (I am not new to that) as far as temp, elevation, etc...not to mention every car is different. I just needed a bit more in depth explanation as to what each channel did. I appreciate the links and I am reading them all right now.

I looked back through the thread and found that you did not ever steer me in the wrong direction. Sorry about accusing you of such.

[SoSlow]

for an apr car, try adding 2% fuel and pulling -.75 timing, this will give you a little more boost up top

[JaredVL]

I can't believe some are actaully taking some of this advice seriosly, haha. I can already see a few new threads tomorrow.." My car just stopped in the middle of a fats pull, i got out and oil and coolant were everywhere!, i changed my settings to EXACTLY what the guy from stasis suggested"

The car wont even start like that

[JaredVL]

That was exactally what I was looking for, and I appreciate that. I am just not sure why people, including yourself had to preceed to introduce poor information that someone could attempt to use. Not cool at all. I hope no one else sees this thread in a search and goes ahead and tries some of these sweet recomendations out.

Again, thank you for the quality informational material.

Oh stop it, how do you think most of us figured it out? We played around and tried things that didnt work. Lemmi isnt a tuning tool and you wont make any car "faster" with it. All you can possibly do is a very broad correction to an issue that is present with your current software, which i doubt there is any.

Btw - I basically taught you how to make an anti lag, you will just need to correct a few obvious problems, yet someone who has tuned stand alones from scratch should be able to quickly see the issues...

[Rican_S4]

Oh stop it, how do you think most of us figured it out? We played around and tried things that didnt work. Lemmi isnt a tuning tool and you wont make any car "faster" with it. All you can possibly do is a very broad correction to an issue that is present with your current software, which i doubt there is any.

Btw - I basically taught you how to make an anti lag, you will just need to correct a few obvious problems, yet someone who has tuned stand alones from scratch should be able to quickly see the issues...

Fuckin' DING

[ms4cd]

Do a search, 10SecS4 did some adjustments to his APR car that made it a bit faster.

Get a wide band and play with timing and primary fuel. APR car usually runs rich so adding timing and leaning it up a bit works well.

I found that on 100 octane map and gas, 3 degrees advanced timing works great. Log your timing CF's as a start.

Do this at your own risk, every car is different so be careful what you do. Good luck and report back what you find.

[Jon_Rhea]

Personally I know nothing about Lemmiwinks. . . but I found this thread that looks like it has some useful information:

Click

And this site:

S4 Wiki

If any of what I posted here was already in the other links that were posted, sorry for re-posting it. The filters here at work wouldn't let me go to the sites listed.