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    Anyone here run KO4's without fueling or tuning?

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    Here's my situation. My car is at the shop and its getting another motor put in. I have a used pair of turbos ( KO4's) at the house and need to get those rebuilt. Since the motor is coming out, it would cost me nothing extra to slap on those turbos however, I dont have the extra money set aside for fueling and downpipes and intercoolers as would be needed for a proper set up. Has anyone run KO4's on a chipped car without all the other stuff for a while?

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    Re: Anyone here run KO4's without fueling or tuning?

    alot of people run stage 3-, but do you have the inlets with those k04s? run piggie downpipes there free
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    Re: Anyone here run KO4's without fueling or tuning?

    I know for a fact that boosting on K04s is not a problem with the stock fueling or upgraded intercoolers. Its actually a matter of wasting all that power you have at your disposal with the K04s. People always say that later down the line you want to upgrade the fueling, im pretty sure they are urging you to squeeze every ounce of reliable power you have out of the turbos.

    On a side note, I don't have the money for ICs or fueling, so I'll be running the K04s just like I am running my Stage I right now. As soon as the SSAC turboback comes in I'll slap that on, but everything else will remain as it was in Stage I.

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    Re: Anyone here run KO4's without fueling or tuning?

    Quote Originally Posted by tike0rz View Post
    I know for a fact that boosting on K04s is not a problem with the stock fueling or upgraded intercoolers. Its actually a matter of wasting all that power you have at your disposal with the K04s.
    ... i just dont see how thats plausible.. k04' pushes more air than k03.
    more air less fueling = lean conditions ... i can understand a stg2 tune with tweaking but even still its a risk.
    op; "stage 3 -" is an option but just know that k04's are larger. period.
    what tuning are you running?
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    Re: Anyone here run KO4's without fueling or tuning?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdStrike View Post
    ... i just dont see how thats plausible.. k04' pushes more air than k03.
    more air less fueling = lean conditions ... i can understand a stg2 tune with tweaking but even still its a risk.
    op; "stage 3 -" is an option but just know that k04's are larger. period.
    what tuning are you running?
    cant..

    You can do stg 3-, but you will need to get a diffrent tune.

    Sell the STG I ecu and get a stg 3- ECU.

    ****Inlets, Turbos, ECU = Stage 3-****


    Let me run this down for your since you didnt search.. : )

    STG I = chip
    STG II = Chip, and catback
    STG II+ = Chip, Turbo Back
    Stg III- = Ko4's and stock fueling with STG III- software
    Stg III = ko4's, fueling, and software
    STG III+ = ko4 hybrids or bigger


    STG III- software is pretty easy to grab in the classified's, alot of people do what your doing

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    Re: Anyone here run KO4's without fueling or tuning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Duct View Post
    cant..

    You can do stg 3-, but you will need to get a diffrent tune.

    Sell the STG I ecu and get a stg 3- ECU.

    ****Inlets, Turbos, ECU = Stage 3-****


    Let me run this down for your since you didnt search.. : )

    STG I = chip
    STG II = Chip, and catback
    STG II+ = Chip, Turbo Back
    Stg III- = Ko4's and stock fueling with STG III- software
    Stg III = ko4's, fueling, and software
    STG III+ = ko4 hybrids or bigger


    STG III- software is pretty easy to grab in the classified's, alot of people do what your doing
    I think its better to search audiworld.com not this forum.

    You can do K04 + stock fueling on a stock chip or even a Stage I chip.

    PSI is PSI, a K03 just can't handle higher amounts of it like the K04, hence why you can create more boost with the K04. The entire system is controlled by computer and the N75 valve takes care of the buisness end of things for you.

    The computer will try maintaining xx psi by dumping back into the intake.

    What I recommend doing is purchasing a manual boost controller, and setting it around 1-2 psi lower then what the Stage I is set at, to ensure that in the case you get a boost spike your not running lean. Also some recommend getting a FPR as well to increase fueling just in case.

    a MBC is $40 from www.vastperformance.com - talk to anyone there and they will set you up nicely and provide a more technical explination.
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    Re: Anyone here run KO4's without fueling or tuning?

    Quote Originally Posted by RudyH View Post
    I think its better to search audiworld.com not this forum.

    You can do K04 + stock fueling on a stock chip or even a Stage I chip.

    PSI is PSI, a K03 just can't handle higher amounts of it like the K04, hence why you can create more boost with the K04. The entire system is controlled by computer and the N75 valve takes care of the buisness end of things for you.

    The computer will try maintaining xx psi by dumping back into the intake.

    What I recommend doing is purchasing a manual boost controller, and setting it around 1-2 psi lower then what the Stage I is set at, to ensure that in the case you get a boost spike your not running lean. Also some recommend getting a FPR as well to increase fueling just in case.

    a MBC is $40 from www.vastperformance.com - talk to anyone there and they will set you up nicely and provide a more technical explination.
    Right. A turbo will only give the sytem what the ECU requests. K04 has more capacity than K03. Thats the long and short of it.
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    Re: Anyone here run KO4's without fueling or tuning?

    Search button! this is prob the 100th thread on this.
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    Re: Anyone here run KO4's without fueling or tuning?

    This was covered for the 9999th time last week. Please search.

    Car runs like shit on a stock tune

    People (like myself) were able to run a stage 1 tune, others say they run too lean.


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    Re: Anyone here run KO4's without fueling or tuning?

    Quote Originally Posted by JMTx86 View Post
    Search button! this is prob the 100th thread on this.
    Yea it's easy just type in " KO4 without tune ".







    Per Deb38 lol...
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    Re: Anyone here run KO4's without fueling or tuning?

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    Re: Anyone here run KO4's without fueling or tuning?

    Quote Originally Posted by polo92gsr View Post
    Here's my situation. My car is at the shop and its getting another motor put in. I have a used pair of turbos ( KO4's) at the house and need to get those rebuilt. Since the motor is coming out, it would cost me nothing extra to slap on those turbos however, I dont have the extra money set aside for fueling and downpipes and intercoolers as would be needed for a proper set up. Has anyone run KO4's on a chipped car without all the other stuff for a while?
    i ran just ko4's for about 6 months i would recomend when the motor is out do piggies there more or less free to do

    you should be ok though to just run the k04's
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    Cool Re: Anyone here run KO4's without fueling or tuning?

    I have a full fueling kit for your car along with some other sweet parts i can hook you up with for a sweet deal. let me know what i can do for you. i have a five flash ecu flash loader aluminum flywheel and injectors. make me an offer .

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    Re: Anyone here run KO4's without fueling or tuning?

    somoene jump on this sweet deal...sweet

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    Re: Anyone here run KO4's without fueling or tuning?

    Stg3- or Stg3 is what we recommend (so you don't overboost); both require GIAC(or GIAC/AWE) software and some sort of fueling.
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