awe stage 3 dyno new software

[sparkyvw]

not realy please
performance mods to the car are
k04s
gutted pre cats
vibrant exhaust
awe fueling and software(the new version as i only got it a month ago)

the software is 100% as it came from awe



out of all 3 pulls the highest was 313 awhp with 346 torque

[NOVAS4]

alittle low no?... isnt it supposed to be around 330-350

[nizmosx]

you should be putting down higher numbers than that. make sure you have all your hardware dialed in.

[smithm5]

my EPL 2+ car did 297/335 at the wheels....(dyno sheet form pervious owner, dont remember dyno, but it was PDXTuning)

[Don Supreme]

Can someone tell me why S4 dynos are always so WILD... Torque and HP are a little erratic.

[sparkyvw]

ya its low.All boost hoses were just replaced and did a leak test so i no theres no boost leaks. im realy wondering whats up with it! i think ill give awe a call and see what they say.

[lrg8683]

you got a 6 spd or a tip?

[highPSI-S4]

Are you a TIP or 6speed?

[sparkyvw]

6 speed

[highPSI-S4]

you got a 6 spd or a tip?

Damn.you beat me by a minute

[Brett0712]

I put down 364whp and 402ft/lbs on an EPL custom tune and I feel as though thats a little low... I was aiming a little higher ~400whp. Damn ICs are holding me back!

[highPSI-S4]

6 speed

Deff. sounds like there's something wrong

[highPSI-S4]

How much boost are you running

[ms4cd]

Pump gas?

If so, those numbers are normal for software with no tweaks.

[YZracer]

I feel like that is definitely low, even though you don't have intercoolers or darintake which I feel would help. On AWE's OLD Stage 3 software, I have the same setup as you except with AWE SMIC's, darintake, DTS, and UUC VM1 I put down 378 awhp. Now that i have the new software and EBC turned up some, I would expect near 400.

[lrg8683]

oh.. if you don't have intercoolers then it makes sense.. but those are def. TIP stage 3 numbers.. sorry tip guys.

[S4evr]

i hit 330/400 on the older awe tuning file, and my mods are pretty much the same cept i have front mount, mbc @22 pounds and completely gutted dp's... this was on ktr's dyno which i have heard reads lower than most other dynos.

[Rated S]

That plot makes my Stage 3- look really good. Somethings a miss.

[Das General]

ouch, i made 2 less hp with a stage 2+

[dannyn424]

Ouch!!!

[S4-ORCE]

oh.. if you don't have intercoolers then it makes sense.. but those are def. TIP stage 3 numbers.. sorry tip guys.

Yea 310whp and 346wtq are TIP Stage 3 #'s how do you make that stament..then why is my car putting down 350whp and 375wtq and its a TIP

[lrg8683]

Yea 310whp and 346wtq are TIP Stage 3 #'s how do you make that stament..then why is my car putting down 350whp and 375wtq and its a TIP

there are always exception.. and i was joking.

[S4-ORCE]

there are always exception.. and i was joking.

[S4Per]

it's not the exception though ;-)

anyway.....

what gear did you do this in?

[ms4cd]

And what gas? Pump?

[sparkyvw]

pump gas and 3rd gear pull i think as it says in the awe stuff i got with the kit.
awe said today well we have seen anywere from 300 to 420 it depends on the dyno.

[ladedruck]

To start with those runs are less then 90 seconds apart. Not a good idea at all.
Then unless you get other cars on on that dyno all the comparisons are worthless. The biggest variation I see when i look at all the dynos people make claims with is the gear the pulls are made in. If you make pulls in 3rd gear the "whp" numbers are higher. If you did your pulls in 3rd gear then your "whp" number is much closer to just a chp number. It is the same reason the car pulls harder in 3rd then 4th. If you look at dyno sheets try and look at the mhp sheet as well.
your car needs intercoolers though. Especially in the deep south. And I will say this and most will disagree but I will say it anyway. Gutted precats are great for stage 2 cars but are not enough for stage 3. They are plenty to run well but not enough to get the full potential out of the set up. I also have had very poor results on the dyno from the divided dps. Both of those make at most 320s even with awe intercoolers and we see high 340s to 350s with real dps. that is not the newest version AWE though. I don't think I have any dyno info on them yet.

[Das General]

To start with those runs are less then 90 seconds apart. Not a good idea at all.
Then unless you get other cars on on that dyno all the comparisons are worthless. The biggest variation I see when i look at all the dynos people make claims with is the gear the pulls are made in. If you make pulls in 3rd gear the "whp" numbers are higher. If you did your pulls in 3rd gear then your "whp" number is much closer to just a chp number. It is the same reason the car pulls harder in 3rd then 4th. If you look at dyno sheets try and look at the mhp sheet as well.
your car needs intercoolers though. Especially in the deep south. And I will say this and most will disagree but I will say it anyway. Gutted precats are great for stage 2 cars but are not enough for stage 3. They are plenty to run well but not enough to get the full potential out of the set up. I also have had very poor results on the dyno from the divided dps. Both of those make at most 320s even with awe intercoolers and we see high 340s to 350s with real dps. that is not the newest version AWE though. I don't think I have any dyno info on them yet.

Jackson runs piggie pipes on his and he does just fine, I wouldn't say that the piggies are holding any stage 3 car back.

[lrg8683]

Jackson runs piggie pipes on his and he does just fine, I wouldn't say that the piggies are holding any stage 3 car back.

"just fine" is an understatement.. jacksons car is a beast.

[ladedruck]

Jackson runs piggie pipes on his and he does just fine, I wouldn't say that the piggies are holding any stage 3 car back.

I am only posting my experience here on my dyno with 5 or 6 AWE stage 3 cars.

[Das General]

Interesting, I am curious as to why some cars would get held up and some would clearly not...

[sparkyvw]

intercoolers are next on the list but i have to pay to ship the car to England so im abit tight for cash right now. The car pulls well but sometimes i feel like flatspots .It ull pull real hard then for about 400 rpm it wont pull as much then it ull pull hard again.

[Das General]

Could be intercooler related... depending on the conditions.


Jupiter Florida is the tits BTW.

[Don Supreme]

intercoolers are next on the list but i have to pay to ship the car to England so im abit tight for cash right now. The car pulls well but sometimes i feel like flatspots .It ull pull real hard then for about 400 rpm it wont pull as much then it ull pull hard again.

Thats because of the wavy, wild shit I was talking about earlier.

[sparkyvw]

Could be intercooler related... depending on the conditions.


Jupiter Florida is the tits BTW.

i was thinking intercoolers but wasnt 100% sure it was.Now i have to decide on big front mount or smic.

jupiter is nice not much going on but its a nice place to live.Havnt got long left here as im of back to England for a while. The Ring here i come!

2 pictures from today aswell







if anyone has any clues on anything that could be wrong with my car letme know. and if any one in florida knows awe software and can tweak it let me know.

[sean1.8t]

Interesting, I am curious as to why some cars would get held up and some would clearly not...

maybe jacksons car is getting held back. imagine what it could be if he had strait dp's......

[CactusBiturbo]

Piggies are fine. I made 402whp/435wtq with piggies with main cats in. Your numbers are more like Stage 2 + race gas numbers. As everyone else said intercoolers will make a big difference. I personally would have gone with a custom tune and bigger fueling. AWE uses smaller injectors than a lot of the other fueling kits.

[sean1.8t]

Piggies are fine. I made 402whp/435wtq with piggies with main cats in. Your numbers are more like Stage 2 + race gas numbers. As everyone else said intercoolers will make a big difference. I personally would have gone with a custom tune and bigger fueling. AWE uses smaller injectors than a lot of the other fueling kits.

if you think he's, or many other stg 3 cars are maxing out 440's, then, you'd be wrong. you should be good for up to 450whp of flow off of a set of 440's

[sparkyvw]

well im going to do another leak test today just to make sure.