S4 Buyer's Remorse? Should've bought an A4 2.0T?

[Penman]

Hey everyone. Before I post below, I want to let you all know that I posed the same question to the B7 A4 crowd, only opposite. I asked if they could do it over again, would they have opted for an S4 instead of the 2.0T. I'm having a hard time making the decision and wanted some feedback. So, it's your turn!

Hey all,

Just a bit of background before I get to the heart of the question. I've owned an '01 A4 1.8t for nearly 3 years now. I enjoy it, but it's time to move on. I never got around to modding it so it's always been stock. I'm looking at picking up a B7 A4 2.0T, B7 S4, or perhaps even an S5. Everything is contingent upon what my finances look like this time next year. Obviously, if it's looking up, I'll opt for the S5 simply because it's one of my favorite cars that Audi has produced. So, onto the heart of the question.

For all of you that own an S4, are you happy with your purchase or would you have opted for the A4 2.0T instead if you could do it over? I read so much about the great sound and feel of the 4.2L V8 (something I've never experienced) and I get chills just hearing people describe the feeling. However, do you miss, or desire if you've never had the chance, tuning a car with a turbo and feeling the joy of boost? Would you have been happier paying less for gas? Do you desire more tunability than what the S4 offers you? I love the look of the B7 and that's what has me wanting either car. In the end I will definitely test drive both and see what feels the best to me personally, I just wanted to get some feedback from those of you who have purchased the S4 and your thoughts on my dilemma. Sometimes I hate Audi for making so many great cars because deciding on one is incredibly difficult. Thanks everyone!

[Meradin]

Well the price difference is a big point for most. I personally couldn't be happier with my S4 I love the V8 power & sound. While the tuning is limited compared with the 2.0T they both peak out in the same ballpark of 400hp unless you spend crazy money to turbo or supercharge the V8. I also love the Recaros in the S4. Also the difference in the test drive will be huge. The A4 is really only comparable to the S4 after tunning.

[yakendo]

I have never been a big fan of turbos, however, I'm sure many feel the same about V8's. IMO It's simply personal preference

Until my S4, I owned either V8 camaros or vettes because IMHO there is no replacement for displacement.

Until buying my S4 with it's power, handling, refinement, AWD, fit & finish...I had know idea want a truly awesome car was. I wouldn't buy anything else.

Of course I'd love to pay less for gas- but-i wish Bush was not The President too! It is what it is...

I agree with your assessment of the S5....
Good luck!

[40valve]

When I was looking for one I wasn't completely sure that I will buy one but it seriously took 5 seconds of me being inside of the car to push me over the edge and buy it the next day. Like it's been mentioned already the interior is amazing and power never stops. I have yet to get to the point where I start to lose power ... there simply isn't enough of roads.
You just can't compare the two. Two totally different vehicles.

[EuroB6]

im sorry..but the a4 2.0t is not even near the same league as the S4. Sorry to sound this way, as I love all Audi products. But, there is an empty feeling and roughness I find in the 2.0t. I personally do NOT like the engine and the way it shifts. It's loud for a 4cyl. My 07 Honda Accord coupe shifts smoother and is quieter. When you get in the S4, the leather is different, the seats are just amazing. The engine is VERY smooth and sounds perfect. This is my 3rd Audi. Went from B6 A4 1.8t, B6 S4, to now, B7 S4. I honestly do not see myself stepping out of an S-model to get into a standard model, only another S or RS model. They ARE that much more fun/sportier. I can say, because I had a 1.8t. The statement,"you get what you pay for" is very true in this comparison. I would say save up for an S model, or RS if you got the funds

[Alister]

Driving a turbo car is always going to be a different experience compared to driving a NA V8. Driving a modded turbo (BT A4 for example) is again another experience and you learn to adjust your driving habits to extract the most from the car (whether you're looking for performance or economy).

The 2.0TQ is a nice car - if you throw enough money at it it can be seriously fast. Off boost though the A4 is a relatively small capacity 4 cylinder. Once the modded A4 comes on boost though, you certainly get a good surge of power.

Off idle the V8 just goes though - it feels effortless and has instant power. As a day to day proposition this appeals to me more.

As noted above there are other considerations such as the Recaro seats, impact modding has on resale and the detrimental affect that ambient temperatures have on turbos.

If you're into modding (given that you've had your B6 for 3 years and haven't touched it I'm guessing you're not) the A4 2.0TQ could be a good option. If not, the S4 may be the better option.

[tadhgbrosnan]

Since you asked...

I owned a pristine Stage 2 B5 S4 for over two years before buying my B6 S4. The reason(s) I traded the faster, more nimble B5 for the B6 was for the sick interior and V8 sound. Simple as that. I could care less about a few tenths in the 1/4 mile; those two tone Recaros and the big sound means much more.

[1145climber]

S4 if money isnt an issue... i mean, everyone has the A4, i see at least ten a day where i live... do you really want to be like everyone else? i dont - the S4 is more unique.

and that's not to mention the hundreds of other things that are better about the S4, because im sure others will cover them.

but like a few people said, it comes down to personal preference

[Audi0005]

once u test drive an s4, a4 will mean nothing..period....

[bhvrdr]

IMO they are just different and I like both. I've owned a stock then k04 modded 2.0T (and 1.8T) and now the S4. I still look back on the A4 cars with fond memories the same way I look at the S4 experience with good memories as well.

My brief opinion...

Exterior - the B7 A4 with door blades and votex winglets (not a body kit per say) looks even a bit sportier than the S4 IMO but I like them both. In stock form the audi enthusiast can definitely see the more aggressive details the S4 has. Your neighbor may not but people like us can see it right away.

Interior - the only significant difference is a set of Recaros but they do make a difference. They are about the most comfortable seat I have sat in for long trips and while they dont offer the support of such seats like the BMW seats with fully adjustable bolsters, they offer quite a bit more support than the unsupportive stock A4 seats that are borderline terrible.

Handling - this is a toss up. a sport suspension equipped A4 handles every bit as objectively well as the S4 in tests of skidpad and lane change speeds. Objectively the A4 feels more tossable due to it's lighter weight while the S4 "feels" more planted.

Speed - a chipped 2.0t is only a tic behind the now underpowered S4 but this doesnt tell the whole story. See the next category...

"Refinement" - while this is a subjective category, not many will disagree that the engine and exhaust note of the 4.2 makes it worth the price of admission for many alone. The linear powerband just "feels" more refined even if the 2.0t that is chipped only passes the timing lights a tick or two behind. The engine at idle on the 2.0t is a bit course while the v8 is all pleasure.

Economy - not important to most but if you have any inclinations of wanting to be a bit more "green" the S4 shouldnt have been a consideration in the first place. I will say though that after having had the S4 there is something neat about having a modded 1.8t or 2.0t that can get better 1/4 mile times and better handling than and S4 while getting at least another 50% better fuel mileage. I routinely see 8 to 10mpg in city fun driving and 17mpg on the freeway in the S4 and routinely saw 14 to 16mpg city in the modified A4 with well over 26mpg on the freeway.

Cost of ownership - of course the A4 here wins. Just in oil changes the S4 takes 10 quarts. The tight packaging of the v8 engine makes what should be simple jobs like replacing the tensioner pullies on the serpentine (a common S4 repair) an all day affair that requires removal of the front end. Out of warranty? I wouldnt touch an S4 unless you are equipped for doing big jobs yourself. The A4 is different in this regard. The repairs it does have are cheap. vacuum lines, n75 valves etc are $50 repairs. Even replacing the turbo can be done in less then 3 hours and for a relatively cheap price.

It's a tough call i'm sure and i'd go back and get an S4 again to have experienced it just as i'll probably own an A4 again.

cheers! Mike

[b00st]

i was a BIG boost junkie....the modded A4 or pretty much any turbo car is going to cause headaches. the a4 once modded i'm sure many can tell their woes as i can the cost of owning it and keep it happy. besides the 15k i spent in performance and looks....i spent at least another 6k in repairs that i can name off the top of my head. it constantly need them. the s4 bi turbo owners can also input their woes x2. thus my switch over to NA. the reliability is there. sure working on the A4 was easier...it was cool to make a 1.8L motor as fast as V8s....i also think if you want a fast car that will be daily...just buy a fast car. modded cars are cool as long as it isn't your daily. but i gotta say i love my S4. the V8 is constantly asking for more...just a tap of the pedal and you feel the power. the growl is very dangerous...once you here the sound....you want it more and then your doing over a 100. just knowing what i know now...modded turbo cars are just not good daily cars. i'm sure stock they will have less problems but once modded...it turns into the money pit. i love my V8 s4...not great on gas...but i knew that already. for a toy car to work on....i think i will go back and buy a B5 S4....put at it SIII+ and call it the day. but it will never be my primary car like how i had my A4 for a while as a primary driver...it just wasn't meant to be. my a4 stock was getting 410 miles to a tank with chip, exhaust, intake. with k04 chip, exhaust, FMIC, intake. it was still 410. with bigger injectors aggressive tune...310 to a tank. the best tank i've got out of my S4 was 265 thus far. no i wouldn't go back to an A4....they just don't compare. a big turbo a4 might compare in power but thats about it in my opinion.

[cam]

the powerband of the s4 is totally different from that of the 2.0t, that was the big selling point for me, i originally went in for a a4 avant 2.0t 6speed, and after test driving both back to back, the s4 was the one i left with.

i had a tuned mk5 gti and the weight of the a4 would be the one thing that holds it back from being as quick as the gti.

[91gl]

and form what i see, the 2.0t's have way too many issues with fuel cut from the crappy fuel pump, pcv valves blowing all the time, and diverter valves failing as well. and also i have to mention the cam wear problem. its a dissapointment of a motor. buy the s4, you wont regret it

[channad]

LOVE IT! Wouldn't go back for a second! I personally don't like turbos, and I'm not into modding. I had a B5 A4 2.8Q and a B6 A4 3.0Q USP. I moved up to the S4 because I wanted power, and I wasn't going to mod to break warranty.

I ordered my S4 exactly the way I wanted it. I never thought I could love a car this much, it's amazing.

[Maverick]

Either S4 or S5 not the 2.0T.

[khyber]

I have a little bit of buyer's remorse... for two reasons:
1.) Insurance. Ouch.
2.) I have a pretty bad modding bug. Not much to do with this car. Which is actually one of the reasons I bought it, so I couldn't spend money modding it, but of course I"m going to anyway. Eh. I just wish I could do little things like you can with a small turboed engine, although I like the linear power band of the V8 more it's a lot of fun to tinker with engines like the 2.0t.

[littleredwagen]

i had a tuned mk5 gti and the weight of the a4 would be the one thing that holds it back from being as quick as the gti.

i also traded amkv gti for the s4, andcouldn't be happier. I don't like 2.0t little annoying failures. I also got as a loaner 08 A4 2.0t and was glad i did not get the and A4. the car can made to have power, but the S4 just has it out of the box no need to spend $$$ for BT.

[Penman]

Hey everyone,

Thanks for the feedback, it's been very helpful. One member in the A4 section mentioned to me that the power of the V8 S4 might be adversely affected because of the altitude I live at. I used to live in Denver (mile high city) and I remember hearing a lot about turbo cars being affected. Now, living in northern Wyoming, I'm still at a very high altitude. Is altitude something any of you deal with as well with your car? Thanks again.

[The Broker]

Coming from a Mk5 GTI with the same engine, APR KO4 Turbo, full exhaust, APR Fuel pump I am very happy with my decision to buy the S4. Like many have said the V8 is just more refined and pulls all the way to 7000 rpm. I would say that with all the mods to the GTI the S4 in stock form feels just as fast if not faster.

[Mello]

I went from a '04 A4 1.8T to an '04 S4. When I got the A4, it was my first new car. I wanted the S4 bad, but couldn't do the car payment. 4 yrs later and my income was better, allowing me to upgrade to the S4 and it's a total different car. This is actually my first NA car other than the first car I had when I was 16 and the torque rocks. I have not got a chance to drive a 2.0 yet though, but I hear they are pretty nice.

[Tiny2000]

i have a B6 3.0 and B7 S4

i like driving the A4 to work, mainly to save gas - i pisses me off to no end knowing that i'm stuck in traffic, going no faster than anyone else, but wasting alot of premium gas in the V8. also like the A4 in the winter to do doughnuts, slide around street corners, etc, it is lighter and more tossable and easier for me to control with ESP off.

on the weekends i love the S4 with open roads and to let her rip. nothing is better than the V8 engine and recaro seats. my wife loves the S4, but probably only b/c she knows it is more exclusive and expensive...

to tell you the truth, for the value added, i don't think the S4 is worth the extra $$$ vs. the 2.0T. i really like the new A4 brakes (which are the old S4 brakes i think that is what the dealer says) the cost and gas savings, the lighter weight, and the chipped power would be more than enough for me.

my verdict? 2.0T wins over V8 (but it is a very close decision)

[10MPG]

I only feel remorseful when I'm at the pump now that it's $4+/gal.

The feeling goes away the second I turn the ignition on

[Renato]

No for me, since I was in the market for an S4, my other option/choice was an M3 or a similar performance car.

[Rossi15]

Well, since I don't have my car just yet; Thursday though . I can say I was in the market for a S4. I test drove a 05 B6 and loved the power, but I favor the B7 look. So I looked around and found a loaded 06' S4 and pulled the trigger on that. I can't wait;let the modding begin!

[Meradin]

The S4 also has the better Servotronic steering which is absolutely beautiful.

[bhvrdr]

The S4 also has the better Servotronic steering which is absolutely beautiful.

Ouch,
Ok ill politely disagree :) IMO Servotronic which is on the B7 A4 and the B6 and B7 S4 is crap compared to the very well weighted, linear, and precise steering on the B6 A4 models. Servotronic lags in its transitions from light to heavy and it's especially notable in performance driving when...for example...heading to a tight turn and having to quickly transition from 70mph to 30mph then steering into the turn. You can actually feel the steering change assist mid turn which is obviously very synthetic and distracting in feel. Granted it's a common complaint of just about every electronic assist steering out there. Dont mean to rant about that but everytime I get back into a B6 A4 I curse the dreaded servotronic. There are tons of posts about disabling Servotronic which i've done but then you are stuck with an oddly heavy steering until up to high speeds. It's not the same.

cheers! MIke

[wwb4]

1.) Insurance. Ouch.

I too was surprised at how much insurance was when I originally got a quote and was purchasing my car.........I either was looking to purchase a B6/B7 S4 or a E39 M5, and my insurance co. told me that it's 20% more a month for the B6 S4 (which I ultimately purchased) compared to a E39 M5.

[Tugboatguy]

My fathfull 95 Mk3 Jetta GLX VR6(chip,K&N with custom fender intake ,Golf hood ,Hella duel round headlights,Votek grill with 100w driving lights,H&R coilovers) was starting to feel its 13 years . Low miles , just over 70000 . But in the last year , drivers window moter , sunroof , pwr mirror , cruise cont , coolant surge tank sensor,wipper moter, Multi-function readout ect ect..Do I want to spend a lot of money fixing it , or maybe its time for a change???
So I start looking at my options . Test drive a new Jetta GLI 2.0 turbo , It's ok but miss tht VR6 sound . So test drive Mustang GT convertable Great sound , trunks a joke. So wander further into the auto mall , see lots of boring cars ( how do you tell those Toyotas apart??) Finally end up at Audi , Hmm big sale on 07's . Test drive A3 not bad , but no trunk . Drive A4 2.0 better but like the Jetta its the sound again. Then we try a A4 S-Line V6 Quattro now thats more like it , good excelleration , handle's great, nice sound . Head home with the wife and do some thinking , spent the next day muling it over and decide to buy the A4 S-line V6 Quattro 6spd Manual. So off I go Sat morning alone (wife wanted to sleep in ) Get to the dealership , and as I go in thru the side of the building ,I pass by An S4 with the hood open ahhhh V8!!!!!! nice of course right then the sales man I was dealing with walks up and see's me admiring it. Well It's Sat morning there's no rush I can take a 07 S4 for a test drive before I tell him i want the A4 S-line. BIG mistake , that 4.2 sound !!!!! I'm lost , A4 what A4. So it's been 3 day's and my face hurts from grinning so much, wife is even happy since see got a power seat too ( thats always pissed her off ) Buyer's Remorse , no way

[Louis J.]

The guys on the S4 forum will say buy and S4 and the guys in the A4 forum will say buy an A4 so I'll try to be as unbiased as possible. I recently bought an 06 A4 2.0T s-line titanium after looking at B6 and B7 S4s also. I decided to buy the A4 because my priority was to get a cheap car that is cheap to run and trouble free (warranty, free maintenance, cheap gas/insurance) yet fun enough not to feel deprived (this is a big downgrade for me as I'm selling my toys and investing everything I've got into my business...just sold one Porsche and the other is on the way out too). After owning several 300-400HP cars, I naturally gravitated toward the S4 but my needs are better served by an A4 so that's what I bought. Also, while A4 s-lines seem to be in big demand (missed a couple by not pulling the trigger right away), S4s seem to sit. To me, this has to do with a trend toward gas efficient cars and away from gas guzzlers, which is something to consider if you're concerned about resale (not to mention the extra $2-$3k/yr it'll cost to run a 4.2 vs. a 2.0T). Want proof? Check out the classified section and look at how long it takes to sell S4s vs. A4s. I could've bought one of three B6 S4s with between 19 and 24k mi in immaculate condition for ~$25k. You figure these cars would fly out the door at these prices but I checked on the same cars after three weeks and they were all still for sale and the sellers were sounding "motivated". There are also two RS4s in the AZ classifieds for mid $50s (Audi auction price range) and they're not moving either. So, consider your needs/wants and continue to do your homework. You've already made the right choice by sticking with Audi.

[B18b1ex]

The guys on the S4 forum will say buy and S4 and the guys in the A4 forum will say buy an A4 so I'll try to be as unbiased as possible. I recently bought an 06 A4 2.0T s-line titanium after looking at B6 and B7 S4s also. I decided to buy the A4 because my priority was to get a cheap car that is cheap to run and trouble free (warranty, free maintenance, cheap gas/insurance) yet fun enough not to feel deprived (this is a big downgrade for me as I'm selling my toys and investing everything I've got into my business...just sold one Porsche and the other is on the way out too). After owning several 300-400HP cars, I naturally gravitated toward the S4 but my needs are better served by an A4 so that's what I bought. Also, while A4 s-lines seem to be in big demand (missed a couple by not pulling the trigger right away), S4s seem to sit. To me, this has to do with a trend toward gas efficient cars and away from gas guzzlers, which is something to consider if you're concerned about resale (not to mention the extra $2-$3k/yr it'll cost to run a 4.2 vs. a 2.0T). Want proof? Check out the classified section and look at how long it takes to sell S4s vs. A4s. I could've bought one of three B6 S4s with between 19 and 24k mi in immaculate condition for ~$25k. You figure these cars would fly out the door at these prices but I checked on the same cars after three weeks and they were all still for sale and the sellers were sounding "motivated". There are also two RS4s in the AZ classifieds for mid $50s (Audi auction price range) and they're not moving either. So, consider your needs/wants and continue to do your homework. You've already made the right choice by sticking with Audi.

I don't believe the reasons the S4's take longer to sell has to do with gas, it has more to do with the cost of insurance, the age as some people want cars under warranty, and people want a specific car (color, options, not modded). I would not want buy an S4 I know was lets say DRIVEN very SPIRITEDLY. If you could have gotten low mileage S4 for cheap you should have, I drive several 2.0t's A3, A4 slines, and A4 cvt, I can tell you that once you try to actually have any fun in the 2.0t you will get gas milage in the mid-teens so to sacrifice everything else that comes with the S4 for that was not worth it for me. I have seen 14mpg in a DSG A3, over four days of mixed use. If you just tool around town or sit in traffic all commute by all means buy the 2.0t, but if you don't have those issues' the S4 is the better choice by far.

[CanuckRS]

RS4
you will not regret I guarantee it.

[Louis J.]

I don't believe the reasons the S4's take longer to sell has to do with gas, it has more to do with the cost of insurance, the age as some people want cars under warranty, and people want a specific car (color, options, not modded). I would not want buy an S4 I know was lets say DRIVEN very SPIRITEDLY. If you could have gotten low mileage S4 for cheap you should have, I drive several 2.0t's A3, A4 slines, and A4 cvt, I can tell you that once you try to actually have any fun in the 2.0t you will get gas milage in the mid-teens so to sacrifice everything else that comes with the S4 for that was not worth it for me. I have seen 14mpg in a DSG A3, over four days of mixed use. If you just tool around town or sit in traffic all commute by all means buy the 2.0t, but if you don't have those issues' the S4 is the better choice by far.

I agree for the most part. For me, I really wanted to stay within the ~$25k range, otherwise, the prospect of selling either of my two other cars becomes futile for my purposes. On that basis, the B7 S4s I looked at where quickly ruled out (they were in the low $30k range), leaving two 04s and one 05 B6 S4. I'm a car guy and I prefer NA over turbos, especially with the beautiful note of the S4 over a 4cyl, which I haven't driven since I was in high school. That said, the S4s were all going to run out of warranty during my ownership and I will not own a newer car out of warranty or nearly out of warranty as I believe the resale takes a dive at that point. I also live downtown and all my driving is stop and go so an S4 makes less sense for me on the basis that I don't have enough room to let a car like that stretch it's legs and that gas consumption would be significant. Also, from everything I've seen, there is a strong trend moving toward gas efficient cars and away from gas guzzlers. This trend will only become more apparent as we move toward $4.50/gal and yes, I do believe we'll be there this summer as oil moves toward the $125/Bbl range (I'm in the oil biz). Just my $0.02.

[Tugboatguy]

I agree for the most part. For me, I really wanted to stay within the ~$25k range, otherwise, the prospect of selling either of my two other cars becomes futile for my purposes. On that basis, the B7 S4s I looked at where quickly ruled out (they were in the low $30k range), leaving two 04s and one 05 B6 S4. I'm a car guy and I prefer NA over turbos, especially with the beautiful note of the S4 over a 4cyl, which I haven't driven since I was in high school. That said, the S4s were all going to run out of warranty during my ownership and I will not own a newer car out of warranty or nearly out of warranty as I believe the resale takes a dive at that point. I also live downtown and all my driving is stop and go so an S4 makes less sense for me on the basis that I don't have enough room to let a car like that stretch it's legs and that gas consumption would be significant. Also, from everything I've seen, there is a strong trend moving toward gas efficient cars and away from gas guzzlers. This trend will only become more apparent as we move toward $4.50/gal and yes, I do believe we'll be there this summer as oil moves toward the $125/Bbl range (I'm in the oil biz). Just my $0.02.

Wow $4.50 a gallon , I wish . Premium averages $1.25 - $1.30 a liter ($1.25 Liter = $4.73 gallon US ) up here in Igloo land . My other ride is a Chev G20 van 5.7liter rolling brick . So even though I miss the mileage of my old 95 VR6 Jetta , it's ok the S4's not a daily driver . As for stop and go I drove a A4 2.0 , A4 3.2 and the S4 all MT and like the S4 best , It just goes . Resale value is an issue I don't think I'll Hold on to the S4 for 13 years like my Jetta !!

[Louis J.]

Wow $4.50 a gallon , I wish . Premium averages $1.25 - $1.30 a liter ($1.25 Liter = $4.73 gallon US ) up here in Igloo land . My other ride is a Chev G20 van 5.7liter rolling brick . So even though I miss the mileage of my old 95 VR6 Jetta , it's ok the S4's not a daily driver . As for stop and go I drove a A4 2.0 , A4 3.2 and the S4 all MT and like the S4 best , It just goes . Resale value is an issue I don't think I'll Hold on to the S4 for 13 years like my Jetta !!

I hear ya man, I'm in Vancouver so I'm paying that now too (I use Chevron 94) but Vancouver (or BC) has the most expensive gas in North America. For the most part, gas is still under $4/gal in the US. I think we'll see over $1.50 CAD here by summer.

[Lugi20]

I too was surprised at how much insurance was when I originally got a quote and was purchasing my car.........I either was looking to purchase a B6/B7 S4 or a E39 M5, and my insurance co. told me that it's 20% more a month for the B6 S4 (which I ultimately purchased) compared to a E39 M5.

I have a second car that is my main vehicle under insurance, and my S4 is listed under "pleasure vehicle" and costs me an extra $280 every 6 months. I almost got rid of my "beater" but it would cost me thousands more over the next few years to make my S4 my only car.

Its literally worth it to pick up a POS mid 90's Lincoln/Oldsmobile/Mercury/Buick to do this with your insurance if you plan on having the S4 for a while.

[Tugboatguy]

I hear ya man, I'm in Vancouver so I'm paying that now too (I use Chevron 94) but Vancouver (or BC) has the most expensive gas in North America. For the most part, gas is still under $4/gal in the US. I think we'll see over $1.50 CAD here by summer.

I think my Imperial oil shares just about balance it out.

[3 bar]

I regret not buying an A4 and wish I had purchaced one rather than a S4 because I do a lot of driviving. I spend approximately $30 a day on gas and its killing me. I used to go home every day now that gas prices have gone up I often spend nights away from home even sleeping in my car to save money. I cant wait to get my corrado back on the road to save money. The power of the S4 is great and the reliablity is rock solid. Im glad I havent had to take the front end off to change the timing belt (Timing chain w/S4). I plan on putting the S4 on ice for a while and changing the 6th gear so that I can get some gas mileage and put less wear on the engine.

[Lugi20]

I regret not buying an A4 and wish I had purchaced one rather than a S4 because I do a lot of driviving. I spend approximately $30 a day on gas and its killing me. I used to go home every day now that gas prices have gone up I often spend nights away from home even sleeping in my car to save money. I cant wait to get my corrado back on the road to save money. The power of the S4 is great and the reliablity is rock solid. Im glad I havent had to take the front end off to change the timing belt (Timing chain w/S4). I plan on putting the S4 on ice for a while and changing the 6th gear so that I can get some gas mileage and put less wear on the engine.

I can't tell if this was sarcasm.

[Robr10]

I regret not buying an A4 and wish I had purchaced one rather than a S4 because I do a lot of driviving. I spend approximately $30 a day on gas and its killing me. I used to go home every day now that gas prices have gone up I often spend nights away from home even sleeping in my car to save money. I cant wait to get my corrado back on the road to save money. The power of the S4 is great and the reliablity is rock solid. Im glad I havent had to take the front end off to change the timing belt (Timing chain w/S4). I plan on putting the S4 on ice for a while and changing the 6th gear so that I can get some gas mileage and put less wear on the engine.

If you cant afford the gas and sleeping in your car, why the heck did you get an $45-50 car ? Not knowing your financial situation, I think maybe you are stretching yourself a bit thin if your running into money issues, and gas price issues.

I have a 2.0T .. and love it, the gas millage isn't as good as you might think either. i would have only gone to an S4 if i know i can afford the payments and gas millage and live comfortably in all my other areas like , my house food , wifey etc...

So just trade in the S and get a sline 2.0t and be happy :) !

[bhvrdr]

Im glad I havent had to take the front end off to change the timing belt (Timing chain w/S4).

To clarify, the SERPENTINE belt is far different then the timing chains. It is an accessory belt that requires replacement as a maintenance on most all cars made but for the S4 it often has bad idlers which you will notice as a "whining" noise coming from the engine compartment. This is a hundred dollar job on many cars. Cheap. It's about a $600 to $800 job through audi because the front end has to come off. It's common enough of a problem there there is a TSB on it with superceeded parts.

cheers! Mike