milage life of a 2.0t A4

[ron717]

How many miles can I expect out of an A4 2.0t quattro 6 speed manual? I plan on keeping at least 5 years wich would mean 150,000 miles. Would this motor/tranny last longer, and still have trade in value?

[Sharkfin]

ron, I also live in PA (pittsburgh) where the majority of our roads are bad so as far as the tire blowout thread goes, you should be ok as long as you don't go lower than a 40mm tire. I have 245/40/18s and the ride and tires work great so you 17's should be good too.

As for the mileage question, 30k a year is a lot and if its a manual, you are going to need a new clutch sometime during that span and you must keep up to date with you service. I'm guessing you will have the factory warranty to 50k but not an extended one so FYI the 55k, 65k, 75k and above service stops get progressively more expensive.

Getting a car that lasts is sometimes a crap shoot because mine never has issues but some people on here deal with problems all the time. The car can last that long if you take care of it and are prepared to probably have to replace some things.

As for resale value, at 150k and after 5 years (2013) I don't think you will have very much value left because by then Audi will be attempting to go almost all diesel in the US at that point. I would say that your car would depreciate just like any other in a market where things change every single month and model year.

Hope that helped a little and good luck with the car! Remember to post pics and a short bio as well as possible mods!

[ron717]

As for the mileage question, 30k a year is a lot and if its a manual, you are going to need a new clutch sometime during that span and you must keep up to date with you service. I'm guessing you will have the factory warranty to 50k but not an extended one so FYI the 55k, 65k, 75k and above service stops get progressively more expensive.

Why would I need a new clutch before 30K? Most of my cars & trucks 200K on same clutch. You said this A4 wouldn't have much value at 150K, and there are other issues. Am I better keeping my Silverado diesel? Too date a year old with 33K, no problems. I change fuel & oil filter every 10K.

[Sharkfin]

Why would I need a new clutch before 30K? Most of my cars & trucks 200K on same clutch. You said this A4 wouldn't have much value at 150K, and there are other issues. Am I better keeping my Silverado diesel? Too date a year old with 33K, no problems. I change fuel & oil filter every 10K.

No i was saying that driving 30k a year is a lot and in the span of 150k miles you are gonna have to replace the tranny (well, depending on your driving style) and I wasn't saying that the A4 doesn't hold value. I was saying that cars in general 5 years from now might be outdated (i.e. more diesel cars, hybrids, electric, etc.) that comment applies to all cars not just ours. And as for you keeping a truck, get the damn a4!

[ron717]

No i was saying that driving 30k a year is a lot and in the span of 150k miles you are gonna have to replace the tranny (well, depending on your driving style) and I wasn't saying that the A4 doesn't hold value. I was saying that cars in general 5 years from now might be outdated (i.e. more diesel cars, hybrids, electric, etc.) that comment applies to all cars not just ours. And as for you keeping a truck, get the damn a4!

As I'm taking delivery today, waht are the problems, issues, good & bad about this car I need to know. Also, where can I get a good deal on a winter tire & wheel package--NO tirerack, as their wheels are not hub centric.

[muffinman]

As I'm taking delivery today, waht are the problems, issues, good & bad about this car I need to know. Also, where can I get a good deal on a winter tire & wheel package--NO tirerack, as their wheels are not hub centric.

Those are probably the type of things you should research BEFORE purchasing a car ...

I'm pretty sure tirerack.com sells hubcentric wheels as well. You could check out edgeracing.com

I think it's safe to say the B7 A4's thus far have proven to be more reliable than previous generations.. Audi's quality control seems to have improved (their reliability rating has been improving) to the point that it's comparable, if not better, than its rivals (IE: BMW). It's a pretty solid car overall with minor weak points but there aren't too many high mileage (~150k miles) B7 A4's around to testify since this model's run started like 3 years ago.

If you're putting that kind of mileage on your car(s), you should probably get the extended warranty (either from the dealership or warrantydirect.com). German cars can get expensive to repair and maintain.

As for value, I don't know how many cars will hold their value with 150k miles in just 5 years of use (heavy usage + tons of miles). A4's have mediocre to slightly above average resale value. Worse than BMW's but much better than pretty much all domestic brands.

[tribe]

How many miles can I expect out of an A4 2.0t quattro 6 speed manual? I plan on keeping at least 5 years wich would mean 150,000 miles. Would this motor/tranny last longer, and still have trade in value?

Modern engines used with synthetic oils can last forever. This engine in particular is very robust with a cast iron block. It depends how you treat it. By the time your starter or maybe alternator goes bad (5 years...?) you'll be able to get a refurbed unit at autozone for $50.

Same goes for reliability of the tranny and clutch. I've been driving stick for 40 years and never broke a tranny or a clutch. Some newbees or fast-n-furious teenagers blow up engine tranny and clutch the first week and than blame it on the car factory.

You can drive spirited and not harm your drivetrain, but if you go to the track to pull 1/4th miles it's obvious that the mechanicals will take a toll. Like I said; it's up to how you drive.

[coryliv]

If you want to put a ton of miles on your car I'd say reconsider the Audi. You're talking about a manual trans turbo charged car with mechanical and permanent awd. Great car don't get me wrong but there is the potential for a lot more to go wrong with our cars than say a Honda Accord. Not to mention parts cost a hell of lot more for our cars. I think you'll find most folks on this forum will probably replace their cars before their warranty ends and certainly won't get near that mileage (30k/year). If you're dead set on the Audi why not consider the V6 FWD model. With an auto trans and a good set of snow tires you could get by. Just my 2 cents...

[ron717]

If you want to put a ton of miles on your car I'd say reconsider the Audi. You're talking about a manual trans turbo charged car with mechanical and permanent awd. Great car don't get me wrong but there is the potential for a lot more to go wrong with our cars than say a Honda Accord. Not to mention parts cost a hell of lot more for our cars. I think you'll find most folks on this forum will probably replace their cars before their warranty ends and certainly won't get near that mileage (30k/year). If you're dead set on the Audi why not consider the V6 FWD model. With an auto trans and a good set of snow tires you could get by. Just my 2 cents...

I need AWD, and I don't really like the auto tranny. With the exception of my truck, since 1979 I always drove a manual. Toresen is a proven system, and I would definetely prefer a mechanical AWD differential than an electronic one. As for reliability, my previous diesel trucks, and VW cars all made it to 200K +, and still got decent money on trade. My 1999 Dodge Cummins had 195K, which I sold for $4,000.

My 85 Toyota Supra, gas motor had 180K, and no mechanical issues, except for lots of rust.

[coryliv]

Sounds like you've already made up you mind. If you need and are looking for all of those things you won't have many vehicles to choose from anyway. I've had a bunch of vw's myself and have never had any major engine problems (some with 200k+ miles). All had electrical problems which seem to be a trait of german vehicles. If it helps the A4 is finally consumer reports recommended. Of course reliability was projected for the rating. I don't think the B6 was CR recommended though. Best of luck with whatever you purchase.

[A4CE1]

man buy it drive it enjoy it and dont worry about it. if you look at the b5 or even b6 boards there are guys in there rocking like 175k miles. just take care of it. you will go through some parts, like a clutch for sure, lots of brakes, probably a catalytic converter, shocks, who knows... (all this from personal experience driving my last audi to like 105k miles).
it's a great car. you won't be unhappy.

[ron717]

man buy it drive it enjoy it and dont worry about it. if you look at the b5 or even b6 boards there are guys in there rocking like 175k miles. just take care of it. you will go through some parts, like a clutch for sure, lots of brakes, probably a catalytic converter, shocks, who knows... (all this from personal experience driving my last audi to like 105k miles).
it's a great car. you won't be unhappy.

Got it, its in my driveway. I have no doubts it will last a long time. How often should I change manual trans oil, and differentioal oil. Didn't see replacing these fluids in maint book, other than checking.

I heard older B6 1.8t models had issues with timing belts not lasting to recommended mileage, so when should I change on 2.0t?

[muffinman]

Got it, its in my driveway. I have no doubts it will last a long time. How often should I change manual trans oil, and differentioal oil. Didn't see replacing these fluids in maint book, other than checking.

I heard older B6 1.8t models had issues with timing belts not lasting to recommended mileage, so when should I change on 2.0t?

Congrats - not too sure about the timing belt issue, but a couple things you should be on the lookout for are failing DV's and PCV's. There's a newer revision of the DV available at your dealership and there's a TSB notice out for the PCV's - both should be fixed/replaced under warranty.

Other than that, the B7's are pretty damn solid.

You seem to be comfortable with / capable of maintaining cars, so I'm sure the A4 is in good hands.

[ron717]

Congrats - not too sure about the timing belt issue, but a couple things you should be on the lookout for are failing DV's and PCV's. There's a newer revision of the DV available at your dealership and there's a TSB notice out for the PCV's - both should be fixed/replaced under warranty.

Other than that, the B7's are pretty damn solid.

You seem to be comfortable with / capable of maintaining cars, so I'm sure the A4 is in good hands.

Can the PCV be ventilated to the environment like I had on my diesel truck? What is the DV? The manufacturing date my A4 is Jan 2008, so is it possible it has new PCV & DV?

[quattro.it]

The ignition coil is another fairly common part that fails. Mine went out last week and I have 8800 miles on my '07. My daughter's B6 A4 had this part fail at <20k miles. Both covered under warranty. My dealer replaced it in about an hour. Great service!

[ron717]

The ignition coil is another fairly common part that fails. Mine went out last week and I have 8800 miles on my '07. My daughter's B6 A4 had this part fail at <20k miles. Both covered under warranty. My dealer replaced it in about an hour. Great service!

When this happens, do you get it towed to dealer? Will this happen every 8800 miles?

[muffinman]

Can the PCV be ventilated to the environment like I had on my diesel truck? What is the DV? The manufacturing date my A4 is Jan 2008, so is it possible it has new PCV & DV?

DV = diverter valve (found in turbocharged cars)

Your car most likely has the latest DV ("G" revision), as for the PCV, I can't say. To the previous post regarding coil packs, these are a common issue for B6 A4's, NOT B7's.

[supamannn99]

i doubt my car will last past 175k because of the way i drive it

[audimeister]

Those are probably the type of things you should research BEFORE purchasing a car ...

I think it's safe to say the B7 A4's thus far have proven to be more reliable than previous generations.. Audi's quality control seems to have improved (their reliability rating has been improving) to the point that it's comparable, if not better, than its rivals (IE: BMW). It's a pretty solid car overall with minor weak points but there aren't too many high mileage (~150k miles) B7 A4's around to testify since this model's run started like 3 years ago.

If you're putting that kind of mileage on your car(s), you should probably get the extended warranty (either from the dealership or warrantydirect.com). German cars can get expensive to repair and maintain.

My experience is that the B7 is about the same amount of problems as the new B5 I bought in '97, and the B6 I bought in '03. Small stuff, but definitely issues- pretty common with VAG products. Think about it- how is a B7 different than a B5? FSI- pump and cam failures, diverter valve design, etc. Most of the hard parts are very similar between generations, and there are quite a few 150k mile B5's out there. Based on those, you can expect to replace or fix around 60-70k miles (if you want the car to work like new):

1. clutch
2. timing belt/water pump
3. suspension, including arms and bushings
4. brakes
5. electrical- (fuel pump, alternator, and battery) at some point

At 150k, the car will be needing these things again, so its retained value will be pretty low unles you want to spend thousands on these things again.

[FEEL7331]

yup. my ignition coils went out on one of my cylinders. I cant imagine driving it like that anywhere. Not sure but I would say. Towe that hunny.

[Operator]

Are you seeking out 3+ year old threads?!?

[kurupt_hawaiian]

Hey man...you're rising the dead. Lol

[gyroscope]

you wont need a new a clutch by 150k if you know how to drive.
i replaced the clutch in my Corrado at 220k and the clutch was fine when I removed it. would have easily went another 25-50k.

[redcon1]

Well sh*t, since someone raised it from the dead... how's your B7 doing, OP???

[CorneliusRox]

you wont need a new a clutch by 150k if you know how to drive.
i replaced the clutch in my Corrado at 220k and the clutch was fine when I removed it. would have easily went another 25-50k.

I let me buddy try out my car two days ago, and he tried getting on it but didnt release the clutch all the way.... good 10 second of power sliding on my poor clutch. Still works great (real good for the pressure needed at the pedal) for 65k and stg1.

[elwigglero]

you wont need a new a clutch by 150k if you know how to drive.
i replaced the clutch in my Corrado at 220k and the clutch was fine when I removed it. would have easily went another 25-50k.

Also had a corrado with a clutch that lasted a long time, but at 220k, I'd bet that you replaced the car's second clutch and maybe didn't know that it wasn't oem. Not calling you a liar, just saying. It's a wear item, regardless of how easy you are on a clutch, it wears. G60 or VR6?