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    Veteran Member Three Rings Nogaro_PhiDelt's Avatar
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    Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

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    So my best friend just bought an Evo. Do I stand a chance? (my specs r in my profile). I drove it when he was test driving it. It does feel fast...

    **Also what is a normal boost output on a stage 2? I'm pullying .8 bars, but I remember getting 1-1.2 awhile ago...Boost leak or is that normal?

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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    A stage 2 should take a an evo viii without a lot of problems
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    you should walk a stock evo no problem. i had mtm stage 1 and my friends stock evo couldn't pull on me.
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    If he gets an exhaust and a test pipe, the odds will be in his favor.

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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    i raced plenty of evos while stage 2 and only had a problem with a built one running a gt30. even with exhaust, tune and all that stuff they do before the turbo swap you can take him

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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    You will destroy a stock evo.
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    this is probably not a good comparisson but...

    with AWE OTS Stage 3 on pump fuel i chopped an EVO 8 with a chip and exhaust.... that was in about 100 degree heat...
    pulled at least a one and a half car lengths with each gear i shifted..

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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by Militant-Grunt View Post
    You will destroy a stock evo.
    ummm, I don't know about "destroy". Stock Evo VIII's usually run 12's in the 1/4 w/ a decent driver...

    It might actually be a good race if your buddy can't drive, but don't underestimate those cars
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by BITRBO View Post
    ummm, I don't know about "destroy". Stock Evo VIII's usually run 12's in the 1/4 w/ a decent driver...

    It might actually be a good race if your buddy can't drive, but don't underestimate those cars
    stock evo's are not 12 sec cars, i believe right around 13.4
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by gotboost View Post
    stock evo's are not 12 sec cars, i believe right around 13.4
    Pulled from http://www.exoticcarsite.com/0-60-qu...mile-times.htm

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    Veteran Member Three Rings ToMMyRsK04's Avatar
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoloIceberg View Post
    i raced plenty of evos while stage 2 and only had a problem with a built one running a gt30. even with exhaust, tune and all that stuff they do before the turbo swap you can take him
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    Simple bolt ons those cars become monsters.
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by gotboost View Post
    stock evo's are not 12 sec cars, i believe right around 13.4
    okay, bad choice of words... maybe not "usually", but they can run 12's.
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elitedrumr View Post
    Pulled from http://www.exoticcarsite.com/0-60-qu...mile-times.htm

    2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII = 5.1 Seconds for 0-60 and 13.5 quarter.
    2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII = 4.8 Seconds for 0-60 and 13.4 quarter.
    ehh, take those numbers with a grain of salt. I've personally SEEN bone stock EVO VIII's run high 12's on a cool night w/ some good gas... This was the only example I could find, and BOV's don't make that much of a difference...

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    Veteran Member Three Rings ToMMyRsK04's Avatar
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    If a car is stock a BOV wont really do much at all .. if anything you would need to extra air pressure to be circulated back in
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    ^^^didn't think so either...
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by ToMMyRsK04 View Post
    ha ha ha yea im talking about our mutual friend. Im ready for him now though! lol

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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by BITRBO View Post
    ehh, take those numbers with a grain of salt. I've personally SEEN bone stock EVO VIII's run high 12's on a cool night w/ some good gas... This was the only example I could find, and BOV's don't make that much of a difference...

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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    When I was Stage 2+ I was able to walk my friends Evo IX MR with test pipe all night long.
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    Veteran Member Three Rings ToMMyRsK04's Avatar
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoloIceberg View Post
    ha ha ha yea im talking about our mutual friend. Im ready for him now though! lol
    lololl .. I'm waiting for him to up that boost to like 32psi and run 110 oct .. duno if he has yet .. saw him the other night though .. car looks like it pulls pretty good
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    Veteran Member Three Rings Nogaro_PhiDelt's Avatar
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    thanks guys. I'll keep ya informed in the coming weeks how a real 1v1 race goes :-D.

    but if you care, he got a crazy deal on it, from what it seems like at least. I think he got it for a around 17k. And it has only 35XXX miles. Its in pretty good condition, for being a lancer.

    I'll take my leather (etc.) any day of the week for a tad slower of a car. :-D
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    Veteran Member Three Rings ToMMyRsK04's Avatar
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    ^^ Once you get ahead of him just take up two lanes .. I'm pretty sure no car will stand a chance after that
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    Veteran Member Three Rings Nogaro_PhiDelt's Avatar
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    No see. our cars just match our personalities now. Hes the crazy mother F***** who would go on the opposite just of the street just to beat me. I'm the relaxed driver who likes pulls when people think there hotter than shit. So our cars pretty much match us :) lol

    But he's been jealous of my car since the dawn of time. And now he has something to be close to me at least (he had a volvo s60 t6) before this. i shat on it. :-D

    Oh and he knows I some what knowledgeable on AZ and forums etc. Does anyone know of a good Evo forum I could refer him to?
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    Veteran Member Three Rings ToMMyRsK04's Avatar
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    you sure you guys are friends ? loll
    bye bye AWE Stg 3+ and HeLLooOo ........

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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    Simple bolt ons those cars become monsters.
    This is true as I owned one.
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    when i was stage 2 (apr chip,borla cat back, itg s-flow) i took my friends stock evo off the line by 1-1/2 cars ... Ohh and im automatic :]

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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    your stage 2 will beat a stock evo, for sure. ive raced two and pull hardcore.

    simple mods such as turbo back exhaust and a reflash will most likely beat you. i havent raced a VIII in the S4, but ive raced a IX and that thing was FAST! with just a tune they can run low 12's. iirc vishnu says around a 12.2

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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nogaro_PhiDelt View Post
    Also what is a normal boost output on a stage 2? I'm pullying .8 bars, but I remember getting 1-1.2 awhile ago...Boost leak or is that normal?
    .8 bars seems pretty low for a stage 2. May want to look into that before racing your friend.
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by ToMMyRsK04 View Post
    lololl .. I'm waiting for him to up that boost to like 32psi and run 110 oct .. duno if he has yet .. saw him the other night though .. car looks like it pulls pretty good
    i got to start meeting with you guys... and your fast cars
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by ToMMyRsK04 View Post
    you sure you guys are friends ? loll
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    Check for a boost leak.
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by ToMMyRsK04 View Post
    lololl .. I'm waiting for him to up that boost to like 32psi and run 110 oct .. duno if he has yet .. saw him the other night though .. car looks like it pulls pretty good
    I still say he should have kept the A6 especially after putting in the Ko4s.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings ToMMyRsK04's Avatar
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoloIceberg View Post
    I still say he should have kept the A6 especially after putting in the Ko4s.
    I agree .. but if you wana go fast for cheap the evo is the way to go .. maybe I should of went this route as well with an evo but I like the challenge and the element of surprise
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    Dude you will DESTROY him... My buddy has BR 350 Evo and my S4 is stage 1+ and we have split about 5 races...rolling, from a stop, the whole deal...also have raced prolly around 4-6 different Evo 7-8/ MR with all sorts of stuff, have only lost to one of them and he had about 12k in the Motor... Race him for some Ca$h!!! Helps pay for the next mods

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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    I may sound newbish, but is there a DIY on checking Boost leak?

    *and my other friend is parting out his evo. The VIII is gong to buy alot of parts off him. So I should have a chronological detail of what it takes to take me over from the very beginning. :-D*
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    sounds like you need to get your car checked out first; you should be seeing 1+ BAR.
    Though, a well-running 2+ will take an Evo. Throw some race gas in for good measure.
    Here's me beating an Evo IX MR (twice) in the 1/8 and again around a track.

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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by crosenhahn View Post
    Dude you will DESTROY him... My buddy has BR 350 Evo and my S4 is stage 1+ and we have split about 5 races...rolling, from a stop, the whole deal...also have raced prolly around 4-6 different Evo 7-8/ MR with all sorts of stuff, have only lost to one of them and he had about 12k in the Motor... Race him for some Ca$h!!! Helps pay for the next mods
    12K in his motor he should have completely murdered you..

    I can tell you since I have an Evo VIII at least it's the "weakest" of the bunch. If he had a IX with mivec, you are in more trouble. It takes a lot more mods to break into 11's.

    Stock form I put a 12.7 on my car. Computer tuning, which is so cheap.. can easily make his car faster. Once he starts dropping other things in like the full exhaust and cams.. he'll be in the 11's.

    It should be really fun! If he really is "stock" then you'll beat him up.. If he's a bit sneaky he can up the factory boost quite a bit, tune it a little.. and you'll have a good race :)
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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    This thread is like repost gallure.

    When I was 100% stock, I raced a friends EVO8 that had fullexhaust, and a bigger FMIC.

    I was neck and neck with him until 3rd gear where he would pull about 3/4 car on me.

    If you know how to drive your car and he is only decent you will DESTROY him. Some people just need to learn how to launch, or shift a little quicker.

    The 9 is the one to look out for, and the 8 is nothing without cams or a bigger turbo

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    Re: Evo VIII vs. Stg 2?

    lots off bullshit here. Evo's ar freakin fast

    my friend got a EVO 9.

    Cat deleted, 3 inch end muffler, remap @ 1.8 bar, cold air intake and the spray on the IC. i'm stage 2, 268@wheels and the thing murdered my S!

    from a 60km/h when the 3rd honk went the evo pulled 2 cars immediatly,and in 3rd and 4th gear it stayed at about 3 carlengths from me.

    it ran 12.55 and some more 12.5x on gtech with 2 guys in the car on a crappy uphill road.

    stock you will kill it, but when it's chipped and exhaust it's becoming a monster, think wih only chip-exhaust-CAI a evo 9 kills a stage 2+

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