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    Veteran Member Three Rings 20AE428's Avatar
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    Tips on pumping gas.

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    Hope this isn't a repost but good info to know.



    I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... but here in California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks
    to get more of your money's worth for every gallon..

    Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose , CA we deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is &nb sp;diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of
    16,800,000 gallons.


    Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the
    afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In
    the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role.

    A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.

    When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3)stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses
    at the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate,
    some other liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're
    getting less worth for your money.

    One of the most important tips is to fill up wh en your gas tank is HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that
    every gallon is actually the exact amount.


    Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.

    DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!

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    WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON

    Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should return the favor.

    An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS.

    Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.


    I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil.

    These companies import Middle Eastern oil:

    Shell........................... 205,742,000 barrels

    Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels

    Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels

    Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels

    Amoco............................62,231,000 barrels

    Citgo gas is from South America, from a Dictator who hates Americans. If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION!
    (oil is now $90 - $100 a barrel

    Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:

    Sunoco..................0 barrels

    Conoco..................0 barrels

    Sinclair.................0 barrels

    B P/Phillips............0 barrels

    Hess.......................0 barrels

    ARC0....................0 barrels

    If you go to [ http://sunoco.com/ ]Sunoco.com, you will get a list of the station loca tions near you.

    All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings scooter44's Avatar
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    Re: Tips on pumping gas.

    wow. Good information.


    Thanks!

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    Re: Tips on pumping gas.

    Quote Originally Posted by scooter44 View Post
    wow. Good information.


    Thanks!
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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    Re: Tips on pumping gas.

    kind of random but I'm a contractor and I work at Kinder Morgan in perth amboy and carteret nj. We work on gauges and alarms.
    Previously: sivic

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    Re: Tips on pumping gas.

    i heart sunoco ultra94.

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    Active Member Four Rings
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    Re: Tips on pumping gas.

    wish 94 was in oregon....
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    1990 CQ - sold (sadly)
    2000 S4 - sold (sadly-er)

    currently audiless

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    Re: Tips on pumping gas.

    Note that in Northern States and Canada the pumping in the morning trick doesn't work as the gas is volume adjusted to a specific temperature, 25C in Canada.

    Basically, they took away the consumer advantage in the Northern states, but still get more money out of you per unit volume in the Southern, warmer, states.
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    Re: Tips on pumping gas.

    Thank You! those FW: emails that get forwarded on and on and on, 43 times around the intarweb, just get old yet somehow people believe what they read.

    oh, on the 'Oil Companies who import MidEast Crude' thingy....also useless. importation of crude is not the same thing as selling of fuel. If Exxon imports some Saudi crude, I guarantee some of that will end up in Sunoco or Conoco retail stations as fuel. *somebody* has to import crude since there isn't enough produced in N. America to satisfy our demand. Crude oil is fungible. raw gasoline is also fungible. Sunoco/Conoco fuel dealers do not have a straight-line supply chain linked to a particular crude oil field in Texas or the Gulf. That's not how the industry works.

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    Re: Tips on pumping gas.

    Thanks for wasting our time with this garbage.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings pyro's Avatar
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    Re: Tips on pumping gas.

    thanks, i was about to post this up. anyone who actually believes any of this shit is retarded.


    Besides, everyone knows the best way to get gas prices lower is to not buy it one day of the yeeeeer!!!! yea it has to werk!!!!1111!!one1

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    Re: Tips on pumping gas.

    Conoco..................0 barrels

    Amoco............................62,231,000 barrels

    B P/Phillips............0 barrels
    How old and inaccurate is this information? It's BP/Amoco and Conoco Phillips. Nice info.
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    Re: Tips on pumping gas.

    I can tell you that the refinery I work at gets damn near all of its oil from Saudi Arabia, especially since its a joint venture between Shell and Saudi Aramco, who also just put down $7 Billion for an expansion project to increase our capacity from ~350mbpd to over 700mbpd which if my info is correct, will make it the 3rd largest refinery in the world...
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