Camber, Toe Settings

[gotboost]

Well getting my NS Sport springs installed Wendsday, then its time for an allignment. I was gonna go with -1.25* in the rear, have them get it as close to -1.5* in the front, and 0* toe all around. This is what I found after searching. Now I have a few questions...

1. Will they be able to get the rear to that spec, and 0* toe on all 4 wheels.

2. Is the front camber/toe adjustable at all?

And I really dont know how our AWD system works, but what % of power goes to the front and rear wheels?

Thanks

[gotboost]

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[A4Dit]

The camber is not adjustable in the front but it is in the rear.

[EBG 18T]

1. Will they be able to get the rear to that spec, and 0* toe on all 4 wheels.

2. Is the front camber/toe adjustable at all?

You probably read this when you did all your searching but. Your front camber is dictated by ride height. Your rear camber is adjustable. Toe is adjustable at all 4 corners and a decent shop should be able to set it at '0' all the way around. I take it you have driven a car with '0' toe and understand it's higher speed handling characteristics.

Search for Torsen AWD and they will explain the quattro system. I belive your setup is a 2:1 bias.

[absolutegtr]

I take it you have driven a car with '0' toe and understand it's higher speed handling characteristics.

please explain

[EBG 18T]

please explain

I'll attach a link for specific info, but here are the basics. There are several books avalaible that talk about chassis dynamics and alignments.

With the way our roads are (rutted) many places will spec 1/8"-1/16" toe in to provide stability at higher speeds and have predictable tracking. IIRC OEM spec was in the 1/8" range. Neutral ('0')to 1/32" Toe Out will provide better initial turn in, BUT it will lack some stability at higher speeds. Some people won't notice it, some will. Neutral can have an 'edgy' feeling on the highway when you change lanes. It seems like hyper lane changing.

Use caution when playing with out of spec Toe settings. Hope this helps.

TireRack website - alignment info.

[gotboost]

Well most of my driving is done on the highway, but I also autocross a couple times in the summer, so do u recomend getting toe set to 1/32 in on all 4 corners then...

[3ohAvant]

front camber non adj from the factory, rear is.

i would go at least 1/16" in per side up front. and you can match that in the back, OR if you feel really adventuous, and since you autox, do 0 or even 1/16" out in the rear : ) that makes for some fun : ) hahah

[gotboost]

but is it that bad at high speed with 0 toe, never driven a car with 0 toe

[EBG 18T]

but is it that bad at high speed with 0 toe, never driven a car with 0 toe

It isn't that bad, but it all depends what you are used too. 1/32" in is a nice compromise. I would look at doing the 1/32" Toe In front & rear. If you want better turn in for auto-x do 1/32" Toe in Front and 0 toe in the back. This will help with rotation.

[Capt. Obvious]

I try to run zero toe all around. The car just has a tendency to "wander" back and forth across the lane with it set at zero. It's hardly noticable until you get up to 80 or so. It helps tire life a lot.

[gotboost]

I try to run zero toe all around. The car just has a tendency to "wander" back and forth across the lane with it set at zero. It's hardly noticable until you get up to 80 or so. It helps tire life a lot.

when u say back and forth, do u mean side to side, is it like driving in a high wind

[Capt. Obvious]

Yeah, kinda. Ever driven on a well-worn road that has grooves worn into it right where your tires go? Know how your car wants to follow the grooves and moves back and forth? It's like that, but controllable and not really discerning or anything though.

[gotboost]

Ok, well I hate when that happens, so Iam probley gonna go with 1/32" in, but when auto-x and road racing will i be able to feel a big differance bettween the 2

[3ohAvant]

for autox and raod racing, i would not use the same setup/alignment.

you want to be a bit loose at autox, but i would not want that on a road course. i'd rather have a little understeer for track days.

tow in for sure on track days.

and how do i explain toe out... umm, when you hit an irregularity in the road, instead of the car just tracking straight, it will want to dart around a bit. i would recommend driving with both hands on the wheels, and be more alert.

[gotboost]

so the to comprimise for both i should get it set at 1/16 in probley, right

[pbcstylez]

just do 1/16" if ur so worried, with 0 toe, your rear end is happy (if u like this) thus y ur car will dart side to side on a freeway. If you run 0 toe all around stay clear of any abnormalities on the roadway as it will cause ur car to act liek a sled in high wind