B7 Stage 1 Vs. B6 Stage 1+

[audipotential]

WHO WILL WIN!???


No seriously lol what do you guys think the progression of the race would be..

[AudiA4Turbo22]

B7 stage 1, that thing has G35 speeds with a chip!

[aaaudiprotein]

I guess B7 will win with a 3-4 cars length

[vinny.dtw]

You will get owned.

[audikid66]

b6 a4 need a k04 setup to keep up with a bolt on b7(full exhuast,chip,intake,etc.)

[EUROaleksey]

i beat a bolt-on B7 just this week!!! and im stock!!!.......

... some caldean dude spent his daddy's $ on the car and upgrades and forgot to learn how to use a manual transmission....... my g/f was screaming out in the window "get an escalade like everyone else!"... ahaha... 1st time in a while she became really cool in my eyes for a moment there..

thought i'd share..

[SeKKeY]

stage 2 B6 A4 = stage 1 B7 A4

[RLB6]

B7 stg 1 will walk the B6 stg 1+, given equal driving ability between the 2 drivers.

[audipotential]

Why are we concluding this. Theres not much of a difference in power between the 2

[aaaudiprotein]

According to the APR, with their chip, they have 241hp/292lb-ft on 93

[audipotential]

And on 93 octane were 235hp/275lb-ft so I dont think that it would kill a b6 the way the guys are making it out to be

[aaaudiprotein]

And on 93 octane were 235hp/275lb-ft so I dont think that it would kill a b6 the way the guys are making it out to be

You mean on 91 ???
I think their turbo works up to 6000rpms, when our stop "really" working before that mark.
I cant find anywhere the difference in a weight. Maybe that's the point.

[Papachristou]

k04 b6 = b7 stage 1

[AudiA4Turbo22]

it would walk due to the way the engine is made, it has more displacement and the FSI does wonders on how it works, the engines are just a lot more efficient than ours!

[audipotential]

k04 b6 = b7 stage 1

b7's run on K04's?

[quat]

no a stock b7 has a K03. But the FSI injection helps build a little horse power as well as the displacement that the B7 has. There fore what people are saying is that a stage 1 B7 is the same as a K04'd B6.

[audipotential]

no a stock b7 has a K03. But the FSI injection helps build a little horse power as well as the displacement that the B7 has. There fore what people are saying is that a stage 1 B7 is the same as a K04'd B6.

And what im saying is that a K04'd b6 power wise isnt that far off from a 1+ B6

But I guess its new technology vs. old

[quat]

And what im saying is that a K04'd b6 power wise isnt that far off from a 1+ B6

But I guess its new technology vs. old

I'm confused now. Do you mean that a K04 b6 is nearly equal to a 1+ b6? Because I thought the K04 produced close to 250hp while a simple 1+ set up produced 225.

[audipotential]

I'm confused now. Do you mean that a K04 b6 is nearly equal to a 1+ b6? Because I thought the K04 produced close to 250hp while a simple 1+ set up produced 225.

235hp/275lb-ft are the numbers on a apr stage 1+ 93 octane. Supporting mod with this boost is exhaust which adds about 7 HP and 12 Torque so youre looking at about 242chp 287 ctq

[quat]

And what about a k04 set up. whats that out put?

[diztek]

im thinking the apr 235 hp numbers is with the supporting mods and exhaust.

[B6Lovin]

lol @ speculation.

stage 1 MKV jetta gli vs. stock a4 1.8t = me losing by about 7 lengths by the time we hit 80... from a 20 roll through 1st and flooring it at the other side of the intersection.

i wont even talk about what happened from a dig (he has launch control... and got off the line almost as quickly as i did) (i also had a boost leak during that race -- found a nice little hole in one of the couplers on my IC piping)

point is i've done a trial flash of stage 1, and i've driven a BI file 1.8T.... you're going to need a k04 to take a stage 1 B7 if you're both running pump gas.

also -- LOL @ 225hp on a 1+ for whoever said that...

[sean1.8t]

And on 93 octane were 235hp/275lb-ft so I dont think that it would kill a b6 the way the guys are making it out to be

dude, you have no idea what you are talking about. stop reading online figures and get some real world experience..

it's called power under the curve. peak numbers are only part of what makes a car fast. it's all about when the power comes on, how long it stays there, and when the power drops off.. a K04 B6 may only make a few more peak hp than a 1+ B6, but the power comes on harder, and lasts longer..

and have you driven a 2.0t? i know you haven't. go drive a stock one and realize it puts the 1.8t to shame

[B6Lovin]

^truf. my buddy's gli actually PULLS when you floor it. even when rolling.

(granted his is a DSG, so his version of flooring it involves putting it in "sport" mode... but it's still hella faster than my car is right now)

[Amze]

I think some of this information makes me want to kill myself.

[Six Speed Turbo]

prove it.

[A4TL]

torque under the curve.

the 2.0 will spool faster than a 1.8T k03.

the k04 on (1.8T) will lag way more

you have to consider the whole powerband when dyno-racing or bench-racing ..

[FromS60toB61.8t]

2.0t FSi > 1.8t... nuff said

[bhvrdr]

k04 b6 = b7 stage 1

Correct sir...

2.0t dragtimes
http://www.mjbmotorsport.com/sitebui...medatabase.htm

1.8t dragtimes
http://www.mjbmotorsport.com/sitebui...medatabase.htm

[audipotential]

lol ok calm down...dont get your panties in a twist. You sound like an online computer nerd that got his keyboard cracked in half.
Im just comparing numbers. Some are saying a couple car lengths and some are saying it will destroy it which I dont think is could by any numbers be possible. It might win, but it would not rip it apart

dude, you have no idea what you are talking about. stop reading online figures and get some real world experience..

it's called power under the curve. peak numbers are only part of what makes a car fast. it's all about when the power comes on, how long it stays there, and when the power drops off.. a K04 B6 may only make a few more peak hp than a 1+ B6, but the power comes on harder, and lasts longer..

and have you driven a 2.0t? i know you haven't. go drive a stock one and realize it puts the 1.8t to shame

[b6onboost]

Just looking at peak 'estimated' crank hp numbers doesn't really give you a real world idea of how the cars will perform. Look at the 1/4 mile database, the difference between a chipped B7 and 1+ B6 is about 0.5 seconds or a little more.

At 90+ mph that's about a 4 length separation. Decide for yourself whether that is close or not.

Im just comparing numbers. Some are saying a couple car lengths and some are saying it will destroy it which I dont think is could by any numbers be possible. It might win, but it would not rip it apart

[FromS60toB61.8t]

lol ok calm down...dont get your panties in a twist. You sound like an online computer nerd that got his keyboard cracked in half.
Im just comparing numbers. Some are saying a couple car lengths and some are saying it will destroy it which I dont think is could by any numbers be possible. It might win, but it would not rip it apart

... couple car lengths = destroyed IMO... a close race is 1 car length or less...

i got a B7 loaner from the stealership when mine went in for service and that thing just ripped shit... go drive one and ull see...

[aaaudiprotein]

Here is the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlSiEbMsXO8
i think this is the one from b7 forum. That b7 is stage 1 +

[Tgr_Clw]

Here is the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlSiEbMsXO8
i think this is the one from b7 forum. That b7 is stage 1 +

We need to know the altitude.

[aaaudiprotein]

We need to know the altitude.

Racing at 5500 ft elevation

[b6onboost]

^ there's your answer. At sea level the S4 would've pulled quite a bit harder on that B7.

[aaaudiprotein]

^ I just found that video and decided to share :)))

[Tgr_Clw]

^ there's your answer. At sea level the S4 would've pulled quite a bit harder on that B7.

Agree. 4.2L sucks at altitude.

[sean1.8t]

Agree. 4.2L sucks at altitude.

so does the 2.0t. altitude effects forced induction cars also. just the same as a N/A car..

the race would have been pretty much the same at sea level

[Tgr_Clw]

so does the 2.0t. altitude effects forced induction cars also. just the same as a N/A car..

Yes, but to a lesser extent.

the race would have been pretty much the same at sea level

Negative.