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    RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

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    I just installed the RS4 rear sway bar (22mm) from my 18mm; now I'm not sure if I did the right thing. What are you guys installing? What's the downside of such a massive rear swaybar (besides fitting the f#$@ing bushings) ?
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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    i haven't done this yet.. so i'm running stock suspensions.
    I was thinking such a drastic change without coilovers might do damage to the car.
    But i see you're running Stasis SS+ rs4 and i'm going to do the same setup and see how it is or tone it down to s4 20mm.

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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    I installed one with my stock sports suspense and I could not be happier with it. It definetly makes a big difference in that handling. Someone with more understanding could tell you the downside but functionally I have found no downside. I have a reiview in the Chatter box section under "my first mod" or something like that. I don't see how you could have done the wrong thing personally. The A4 needs a stiffer bar to handle better and you installed the right one. Have confidence that you did the right thing. For the price its one of the best mods there is in my opinion.
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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    I have the stock sport suspension with the RS4 rear Sway .. made a nice difference. Cant wait to get coilovers now !
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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    yeah....it's the best bang for the buck. But if you're gonna do it do it soon...once audi catches on that it's a hot item they'll raise the price. It's happened before.

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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by nuctech View Post
    yeah....it's the best bang for the buck. But if you're gonna do it do it soon...once audi catches on that it's a hot item they'll raise the price. It's happened before.
    REALLY... i didn't know that. Wow next week RS4 reay sway lol

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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    Adding a thicker rear sway bar can not do any damage. All it's going to do is stiffen up the rear end by keeping it level.

    It's really funny, I had a 28mm rsb on my first VW Golf, and if I jacked up one side of the rear, the entire rear end would lift up perfectly level lol.
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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    I just did a lil test drive and took a long fast turn (about 120°); took it 'fast'. Great grip really and my tail tried to slip out when I pushed it, but very controllable; remembers me of my miata days - handled like a RWD. Coming back I took the turn a tad slower and it turned like on rails. I'M HAPPY!!

    My concern of going from 18 to 22mm was 'if the sway bar mounts would take the extra stress' ... time will tell
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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    . btw my buddy(who works at audi) got me some rs4 tranny bolts which are longer than the stock sway bar bolts. It makes it easier to get the brackets back on.

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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    If you really want a S4 sway bar I have mine for cheap. I put the RS4 one on my stock sport suspension and didn't have any problem then I upgraded to springs and shocks. The only downside I am having is the damn squeaking!!! Ugh sounds like a little mouse is hiding under my car every time I drive. It just started happening and I've had it on for like 8 months
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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    did you grease your bushings when you installed the bar?

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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverB7FL View Post
    If you really want a S4 sway bar I have mine for cheap. I put the RS4 one on my stock sport suspension and didn't have any problem then I upgraded to springs and shocks. The only downside I am having is the damn squeaking!!! Ugh sounds like a little mouse is hiding under my car every time I drive. It just started happening and I've had it on for like 8 months
    did you try to lube the mounts? that might help, although im no expert

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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    yea I did but it wore off. This is going to be a pain if I have to keep doing it over and over
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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    I have it as well. Definitely improved my handling with the sports suspension. You need to lubricate the hell out of the bushings to prevent any squeaking. I think some of the problems stem from reusing the brackets for the stock bar. Not sure if you can buy larger brackets (S4/Rs4) that work. Its still a great upgrade for the money.
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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    If anyone knows if buying the larger brackets will help get rid of the squeaking plz let me know I will go get them tomorrow! lol
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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    This helps none, but mine don't squeal/squeek at all and I got the idea from the guys that put it on that you really have grease them alot whey you put it on.
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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    What's the part number for the RS4 sway bar?really interested in doing this .

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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    ^^^^^^^Right here, 8E0-511-409-AM, NEW # 8E0-511-409-AL. Hope this helps. Also my next Mod.

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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    Thanks man gotta love Audizine.

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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    Whats the price on the sway bar??
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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    '12 Phantom Black S4 P+ S-Tronic- Navi - 3M Clear Bra - KW Springs - REVO Stage I - AWE S-Flo Intake - Hotchkis sways (still in the box)

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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    Yeah, ECS have them for $120, my dealer wanted $160. What a rip.

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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    ^$192 from mine.

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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    I got mine for $100 at the dealer
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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    the brackets for the north american rs4 are the same as the a4....the european brackets are larger. The s4 has a smaller bar so the brackets may be smaller but i"m not sure about that.

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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    got mine for $119 @ the dealer with the bushings.
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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    You still have the RS4 sway bar. I am interested if you are willing to part with it. Just starting to add some things to my car and this might be a good addition since I am stock s-line suspension right now.

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    Re: RS4 or S4 sway bar upgrade?

    I put the 20mm H&R adjustable on my car, replacing the 16mm stocker. I'm using the stiffest setting, and really like this mod a lot. Feels like the back half of the car is working. About 5000 miles w/o problems or squeaks.

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