Dynoed My Car Today

[Goped220]

213 Horse Power 262 Torque. I have APR Stage 2 Software. Anyone else have dyno numbers?

[nuctech]

does anyone know the conversion to get at the crank numbers?

[B7A4Sport]

Yo, nice numbers. Can you go post them on this topic now? This jackass actually gave me crap about questioning his dyno numbers:

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=199475

He's not even showing 200 hp on the custom-spec chipped test, yet insulting people who question it like they don't know how dyno's work.

[nuctech]

Is the stage II software different from the stage I? It looks like the only difference is the exhaust and snub mount but the software is the same as stage I.

[AudiWxGuy]

Mult by 1.28

So your numbers are:

272 HP
335 TQ

[Tgr_Clw]

Mult by 1.28

So your numbers are:

272 HP
335 TQ

Lol. Way too optimistic. 1.28 conversion works well if he was using a Dyno Dynamics.

To the original poster: What dyno was used?

[MAlby7]

Seems like it was a high reading Dyno.

[Phrost]

Is the stage II software different from the stage I? It looks like the only difference is the exhaust and snub mount but the software is the same as stage I.

Stage 2 is a different file, which is a more aggressive tune for a bit more power. You have to have exhaust (and intake maybe) to do the file for obvious reasons.

[evilgabbie]

What is Stage I then ? Just chip ?

Stage II = Intake + Chip (stage II) + exhaust ?

thx phrost

[AudiWxGuy]

Lol. Way too optimistic. 1.28 conversion works well if he was using a Dyno Dynamics.

To the original poster: What dyno was used?

Sorry I don't know my dynos....

[Noffy]

Lol. Way too optimistic. 1.28 conversion works well if he was using a Dyno Dynamics.

To the original poster: What dyno was used?

Dang, i was pretty stoked with that result, so ready that I was going to throw caution to the wind and go get chipped. Especially cause the wifey is out of town. heheh


p.s. cougs over UNC believe in the miracle.

[AudiWxGuy]

Giac-x!

[Phrost]

What is Stage I then ? Just chip ?

Stage II = Intake + Chip (stage II) + exhaust ?

thx phrost

I'm not positive, but this is how I think it goes:
Stage 1 = chip (91, 93, 100 octane or whatever)
Stage 2 = chip + the stage 2 file, and exhaust
Stage 2+ = chip + the stage 2 file, exhaust, and an intake or test pipe or anything else.

I think if you have a chip, exhaust, and intake, you still need to get flashed with the "stage 2" file before considering yourself stage 2 or stage 2+.

Somebody may correct me though

[Noffy]

Giac-x!

I still have few months till my warranty is up and i am still totally undecided about which one. I like the guys from Matrix, they have done all my other work, so if I go back to them its GIAC for sure. Although I like the idea of a free 6 hour trials with APR, and revo is intriguing because there is another layer of tuning potential for the owner as I understand it. hmmmmm probably just go with Giac because I trust Jeremy and the guys down at matrix integrated.

[nuctech]

SO i JUST TALKED TO MY LOCAL APR DEALER. tHE APR STAGE TWO IS NOT A MORE AGGRESSIVE FILE. iT'S EXACTLY THE SAME AS STAGE ONE EXCEPT THAT IT ELIMINATES THE CEL IF YOU HAVE A TEST PIPE. iF YOU LOOK AT THE HP/TQ QUOTES ON THE APR WEBSITE THEY ARE THE IDENTICAL BETWEEN THE TWO STAGES.

[evilgabbie]

do most chip makers have these "stages" ?

[AAAA]

do most chip makers have these "stages" ?

APR doesn't make a more aggressive file for the a4 application. the transverse, all major tuners have an aggressive file i believe. but like others said, apr only makes one tune, and an extra file for test pipe delete. i think revo has a stage 2 option for a4

[nuctech]

Exactly

[quattrosaint]

Stage 2 is a different file, which is a more aggressive tune for a bit more power. You have to have exhaust (and intake maybe) to do the file for obvious reasons.

Not have to, but recomended.

[quattrosaint]

SO i JUST TALKED TO MY LOCAL APR DEALER. tHE APR STAGE TWO IS NOT A MORE AGGRESSIVE FILE. iT'S EXACTLY THE SAME AS STAGE ONE EXCEPT THAT IT ELIMINATES THE CEL IF YOU HAVE A TEST PIPE. iF YOU LOOK AT THE HP/TQ QUOTES ON THE APR WEBSITE THEY ARE THE IDENTICAL BETWEEN THE TWO STAGES.

I do believe that, even coming from them. I got 3/10 off my quarter w/ stage 2

[LAS]

Sorry I don't know my dynos....

then why would you post that info???

i know awe uses 1.28, doesn't mean it applies to all.

i.e.:

[Goped220]

This is an uncorrected dyno numbers. It is wheel horse power. I am running Stage 2 with test pipe software. This is for really i have the print out I will scan it soon and post it!

[AudiWxGuy]

I still have few months till my warranty is up and i am still totally undecided about which one. I like the guys from Matrix, they have done all my other work, so if I go back to them its GIAC for sure. Although I like the idea of a free 6 hour trials with APR, and revo is intriguing because there is another layer of tuning potential for the owner as I understand it. hmmmmm probably just go with Giac because I trust Jeremy and the guys down at matrix integrated.

They both, APR and GIAC, have a 30 money back guarantee. Which is essentially a 30 day trial, but you have to pay for it up front.

[Nico]

When people refer to stage 2 this only means they have a chip,intake,TP & exhaust.
There is no Stage 2 Software remaps from APR. There is however a remap for fuel pump.


OP 213WHP is a good result I only have 200WHP from APR KO4:(

[AudiWxGuy]

then why would you post that info???

i know awe uses 1.28, doesn't mean it applies to all.

i.e.:

Well I learn something new everyday. Not all dyno's are the same. Which is weird b/c you'd think it'd be a relatively simple mathmatical formula to calculate hp/tq.

[Goped220]

My dyno pulls were done on a dyno jet 4x4. I made more power than a 1.8t K04!

[07-Aythree]

im pretty sure the revo stage 2 file is more aggressive than the stage 1. i remember running more boost and a tiny bit more timing as well..

[Nico]

My dyno pulls were done on a dyno jet 4x4. I made more power than a 1.8t K04!

If you are refering to my KO4 its on a 2.0T

[Six Speed Turbo]

213 Horse Power 262 Torque. I have APR Stage 2 Software. Anyone else have dyno numbers?

Those numbers are pretty sweet.

I do believe that, even coming from them. I got 3/10 off my quarter w/ stage 2

That's probably because you have a TP and exhaust.

APR doesn't make a more aggressive file for the a4 application. the transverse, all major tuners have an aggressive file i believe. but like others said, apr only makes one tune, and an extra file for test pipe delete. i think revo has a stage 2 option for a4

APR does make a more aggressive files..... but not for stages, only on the octane level, and of course for the feul pump.

[Goped220]

Thanks bro! I am referring to the b6 1.8t K04. I have no clue how much power the b7 2.0t k04 put down on the dyno.

[Six Speed Turbo]

Thanks bro! I am referring to the b6 1.8t K04. I have no clue how much power the b7 2.0t k04 put down on the dyno.

(NOT RUDE) He knows, but he's telling you that you made more HP then his 2.0T K04 did (200WHP). Which is probably higher output then a 1.8T. Pretty impressive.

[b6onboost]

Let me mention 1 word about dynos, they are not all the same. For example...below are common numbers for a B7 A4. The final numbers are very different based on dyno, but the gains are all nearly identical. About +30 hp and + 60 ft/lbs at the wheels. (whp/wtq)


Dyno.................Stock ..........GIAC X + Exhuast

dynodyamics......154/173.........183/230
dynojet.............166/185.........198/246
mustang............176/189.........210/251

Proving you cannot compare numbers from 1 dyno to another, and you cannot simply multiply by 1.28 to reach crank hp/tq numbers.

[Goped220]

Yes i saw his post but i dont think it was on a dyno jet dyno. So it is hard to compare. Also the weather conditions play a factor.

[lnferno]

Goped -- do you have a baseline (bone stock)? Comparing your baseline against any subsequent dyno sessions is what is valuable -- that is what is going to tell you exactly how much power you picked up and where throughout the RPMs you picked it up.

[Z33TT]

Seeing these dyno graphs are depressing...... Does anyone make a upgraded turbo kit for the B7 2.0T? Im planning on selling my Z and getting a 2.0T quatrro Avant. But god this thing seems like its slow.

[Goped220]

APR Has a Stage 3 kit in development but it is top secret. But it will be nuts dynoing around 390 WHP give or take how it is tuned!

[Sal_B7]

^^You can get that Stage 3 kit but only for GTI's and A3's

Cant wait till APR comes out with their Stage 3 Kit for our cars.

[Goped220]

I am talking about the a4 I know its out for the gti and a3! LOL

[ringmaster2.0]

i didn't see it listed but which program were u runnin? (91, 93, or 100)?

[Goped220]

I am running pump gas 93 octane.