wheel spacers

[nuctech]

I searched but couldn't find any info on wheel spacers specifically. I'm thinking about 12mm front and rear. What are you guys running?

[autoverruckt]

What specifically are you looking for? I did an "advanced" search under the B7 forum and checked off "title only" and came up with a bunch of stuff. That's how I came up with my decision.

[nuctech]

thanks...I'll try that. I have the stock s-line wheels which I'll be running for a year or so.

[nuctech]

before anyone rips me apart I did a better search and found what I was looking for.

[davis449]

I call fucking shenanigans on this. There's now way you couldn't find any "specific" info. on spacers doing a search in this forum. Bullshit!

[Zebman]

I'm running 5 and 8 mm, front/back. I'm getting some good vibrations... literally. Be sure to get hubcentric unlike me.

[nuctech]

Dude......if you look at my next post I said I did a better search and found what I was looking for. The post was right above yours. Get the full story before going off!

[tribe]

12 on the front might poke a bit... I have 12R 8F and I love it

[Elohite]

i had 12mm front and 15mm rear, its still not flush but was close to it
anything less looks horrible as its tucked

[Phrost]

Yes, you'll need a larger spacer in the rear compared to the front... Just look for what others are running and hope they post a picture like Elohite was ever so kind to do for you

I recommend H&R brand spacers only, because I've seen and heard of way too many cheaper spacers like FK's cracking and being a pos. I'm not sure how ECS spacers are, but they are less expensive and they usually make good products...

and please remember to buy the correct extended lug bolts when you buy spacers. You don't want your wheels falling off and costing you hundreds of dollars!

[acbrooks2]

10mm front and 12mm rear is perfect with Sport Suspension. H&R Trak.

[Phatt_Audi]

Does it matter whether it's a Quattro or not? How will it affect driveability? I have a Quattro B7.

[davis449]

Dude......if you look at my next post I said I did a better search and found what I was looking for. The post was right above yours. Get the full story before going off!

Yeah I saw it, if you look at my post time, I was typing it while you posted your reply saying you found it after a more thorough search. So yes, I did have all the information before going off.

[nuctech]

I really like the 12mm front and 15mm rear but do you sandblast your fenders then?

[Phrost]

Does it matter whether it's a Quattro or not? How will it affect driveability? I have a Quattro B7.

No, it does not matter whether you have Quattro or front wheel drive.

Spacers do not affect driveability at all. You will not notice them at all, they are for looks or for correcting wheel fitment. Some say it will add stress to your car since your wheels are pushed out further, but I don't believe that they causes one bit of harm to your car.

[davis449]

Spacers do not affect driveability at all. You will not notice them at all...

This is not totally true. A search will reveal that there are many, including me, who have or have had vibration issues due to spacers and their improper installation and torque specs on the lugs. The natural vibration of the Quattro system between 60 and 90 mph will be amplified by the spacers, especially if you have larger than 17" rims and any type of aftermarket sport suspension setup. Now, once things are properly installed and torqued down correctly, it's probably not going to be enough for you to want to take them off.

[Phrost]

This is not totally true. A search will reveal that there are many, including me, who have or have had vibration issues due to spacers and their improper installation and torque specs on the lugs. The natural vibration of the Quattro system between 60 and 90 mph will be amplified by the spacers, especially if you have larger than 17" rims and any type of aftermarket sport suspension setup. Now, once things are properly installed and torqued down correctly, it's probably not going to be enough for you to want to take them off.

You have to expect problems if you don't do something correctly.

I've had spacers front and rear on front wheel drive cars and Quattro cars, and I've never had any vibration or problems. The only time I hear of people saying they have a vibration is when they didn't install them correctly or it's something else.

[autoverruckt]

no hubcentric lip = vibration as well.

[Phatt_Audi]

No, it does not matter whether you have Quattro or front wheel drive.

Spacers do not affect driveability at all. You will not notice them at all, they are for looks or for correcting wheel fitment. Some say it will add stress to your car since your wheels are pushed out further, but I don't believe that they causes one bit of harm to your car.

Thanks, Phrost. I trust you, man. I'm planning to get 8mm front and 12mm rear. Do you think that's enough? I have the stock sport suspension.

[Dodge2Dub]

i had 12mm front and 15mm rear, its still not flush but was close to it
anything less looks horrible as its tucked

How low are you from ground to fender?

[johntesi]

While we're at it.. 18" x 8 et 35 on 235s.. lowered moderately on PSS9s. 12 f/ 15 r?
Is that too much for this sizing? I want them to sit flush at most but no rubbing issues. I know "search search search!" but this is a specific question. Thanks!

[Phatt_Audi]

How low are you from ground to fender?

What's up, Charles. Met you at the meet at Irvine. It's Ray.
Front is about 26.25" Rear about 26"

[Dodge2Dub]

What's up, Charles. Met you at the meet at Irvine. It's Ray.
Front is about 26.25" Rear about 26"

Hey Ray! Are you going to the San Gabriel cruise?

My car is sitting at 24.75 now and I'm thinking about raising it a bit as well as trading out the spacers for a larger size...yours look great!

[Phatt_Audi]

Hey Ray! Are you going to the San Gabriel cruise?

My car is sitting at 24.75 now and I'm thinking about raising it a bit as well as trading out the spacers for a larger size...yours look great!

Is that the one on the 13th? I can't make it that day because of the BBQ at Genesis around the same time.
oh btw. I think there's some misunderstanding, I thought you were asking me how low my ride was, but i didn't realize that you were actually asking Elohite who posted the picture. That's not my ride. I wish mine looks that good. I just got the stock sport suspension on mine. I was asking a question whether 8mm front 12mm rear is good enough just before you posted your question which I thought was a reply to me.
Anywho, let's see some pics of your S4. Can't get enough of it. Yours and Channad

[Dodge2Dub]

Is that the one on the 13th? I can't make it that day because of the BBQ at Genesis around the same time.
oh btw. I think there's some misunderstanding, I thought you were asking me how low my ride was, but i didn't realize that you were actually asking Elohite who posted the picture. That's not my ride. I wish mine looks that good. I just got the stock sport suspension on mine. I was asking a question whether 8mm front 12mm rear is good enough just before you posted your question which I thought was a reply to me.
Anywho, let's see some pics of your S4. Can't get enough of it. Yours and Channad

I don't have any new pics, but here's one showing off the spacers...



...and another showing off the rear end!

[Phrost]

Thanks, Phrost. I trust you, man. I'm planning to get 8mm front and 12mm rear. Do you think that's enough? I have the stock sport suspension.

I'm really not sure what works best for stock wheels, but 8/12mm sounds familiar. I would check around though just to be sure.

If you have oem sport suspension and stock wheels though, I don't think you could rub if you tried. But I would look at a few of the generic picture threads and PM someone who has a stance you like with oem wheels.

While we're at it.. 18" x 8 et 35 on 235s.. lowered moderately on PSS9s. 12 f/ 15 r?
Is that too much for this sizing? I want them to sit flush at most but no rubbing issues. I know "search search search!" but this is a specific question. Thanks!

Those may be a tad wide, but I'm not positive. People say 8.5" wide et35 sits "flush", so that's where I get the idea from. But just in case, the first thing that usually rubs is that top screw in the fender liner. Most people unscrew that and either let the plastic rub down or file it I guess. I'm going to figure all of this out first hand very soon, but tons of people on here have similar setups as you.

[johntesi]

Well even at the rear, 15 mm = 1.5 cm = .6 in
So that would be .1 in wider than an 8.5" sitting flush.
Elohite- what are the offsets on your wheels?

[Elohite]

How low are you from ground to fender?

I have not measured it but when I do i'll PM you

While we're at it.. 18" x 8 et 35 on 235s.. lowered moderately on PSS9s. 12 f/ 15 r?
Is that too much for this sizing? I want them to sit flush at most but no rubbing issues. I know "search search search!" but this is a specific question. Thanks!

Everyone has different opinions... Honestly if you ask my i think my previous setup on the stock wheels wasn't even flush enough for my liking, that pic was just taken at a angle to make it look better.

For a 18x8 et35 wheels, I would geusstimate 8mm Front and maybe 12mm Rear. but thats just pulling numbers from my head... I would try to test fit some if you could somehow to see what YOU like
Call it whatever... But this is what I am trying to run on my car...
19x8.5 et35 with 15mm Spacer in the rear for 8.5 et20. heres a shot from the rear showing the fitment. right now it doesnt fit and it rubs like mad even with the rear fender liner cut, so i currently have a 5mm spacer back there until I have time to get the fenders pulled and get alignment for more negative camber

Those may be a tad wide, but I'm not positive. People say 8.5" wide et35 sits "flush", so that's where I get the idea from.

Anyone who thinks 8.5 et 35 is "flush" is weak sauce. the fitment looks decent at best and is good for people who want a safe offset, but its not "flush" at all

Well even at the rear, 15 mm = 1.5 cm = .6 in
So that would be .1 in wider than an 8.5" sitting flush.
Elohite- what are the offsets on your wheels?

Offsets on those wheels were OEM S-Line 18x8 et43 with 12mm front and 15mm Rear... so...18x8 et31 front and 18x8 et28 rear , AND it still was not flush...

[b6onboost]

10 front, 15 rear comes close to being flush without poking...ONLY on et43 (OEM) 8 inch wide wheels. If you have a lower offset (et35) you won't need as large of a spacer. if your wheels are 8.5 wide instead of 8, that will also effect the spacer size you need.

Best bet is to place a yard stick flush with your fender, and measure the amount of spacing your 'specific' wheels would need. Keep in mind if you are lowered you may rub if you go too wide without rolling your fenders.

Dunno why some people complain about vibration. I installed H&R oem hubcentric spacers on stock wheels using longer bolts, just tightened them as I saw fit...ie no torque wrench...and they never vibrated, losened, or had any problems.

[Widget]

Well, I decided today to go 8F/10R, my front spacers are the genaric cheapos so I think there's a set of 12mm's in my future judging by the pics here.
Running stock S-line wheels.

[RAGE]

if you want to avoid any possible issues with spacers, then do not use them. personally, im just not a fan of them either and i try to avoid them if possible. but thats just me.

[the sheriff]

I've rocking spacers on my titanium edition and settled with 10 front, 12 rear I believe. Dean at Futrell Autowerks tried a couple different combinations to get it just right and I think we settled on this......We removed the screw in the top of the fender well though to prevent just a touch of possible rubbing. I'm lowered on streetsports - couldn't be happier with the look....

[Widget]

^How about some pics?

[johntesi]

One more.. sorry guys! 19x8.5 ET+45
Would 10mm make it fit? Sit flush? With 235 rubber..
Thanks!

[The Broker]

One more.. sorry guys! 19x8.5 ET+45
Would 10mm make it fit? Sit flush? With 235 rubber..
Thanks!

That will just make the final specs 19x8.5 with an ET+35

[Phrost]

^ yup. It will fit perfect, but you won't be quite flush. It depends on how you perceive "flush" and how picky you are though.

But if you're buying wheels, I would just buy 8.5 et35 since you will have the extra 10mm of lip then and a 235 series tire will stretch just a tad (if at all) on 8.5" wide so that will help reduce any rubbing.

If you're on oem or oem sport suspension, you should never rub ever. If you're not even on sport springs and rub, then you have a fitment problem and you either bought the wrong size wheels or don't understand offsets and need spacers or something.

[Dodge2Dub]

Keep in mind that I have an 8.0" OEM rim with a +43 offset that has 10mm spacers and it's still not flush.

[06B7audiA4]

Yeah I saw it, if you look at my post time, I was typing it while you posted your reply saying you found it after a more thorough search. So yes, I did have all the information before going off.

Why go off anyways...just dont comment....I researched as well and found little amount of threads on spacers...this is a great thread, and def helped me out as well..Thks Im going with 12.5mm Front, 20mm Rear... rims are 18x8, should be flush

[Birdm@n26]

I have the the stock split spoke 17'' and I'm going to put the H & R Sport springs on, will I rub if I also put on spacers, 10 F/ 15R.

[klem74]

I just did a quick calculation and 10mm spacer will take the OEM 8" wheel with +43 offset very close to a 8.5" wheel with +38mm offset (ie VMR RS4 reps) that has no spacers installed. I have a the old 5 spoke OEM wheel which I want to use in the winter time. I want to match the outside wheel position to my summer set (18x8.5 VMR RS4 reps) and I think either 10F 12R or more conservative 8F 12R would be good choices.

I think the front spacers should be kept to a mininum if possible since they would affect wheel alignment when cornering. *** Not 100% sure about this. ***