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    so i finally got around to installing my snow performance stg2 meth kit but i cant figure out which wire i need to tap into on the maf for the controller to get a signal. which color wire is it? thanks

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    does have to be your maf, i have it tapped to my map sensor, i belive it's the middle wire on the connector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcini View Post
    does have to be your maf, i have it tapped to my map sensor, i belive it's the middle wire on the connector.
    i dont have a map sensor i'm nDBW

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    Yellow wire from the maf is the 0-5 volt signal wire. Most turbo owners go with the map control so that it only comes on at a set boost level.

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    Re: Meth Injection?

    Quote Originally Posted by mike-2ptzero View Post
    Yellow wire from the maf is the 0-5 volt signal wire. Most turbo owners go with the map control so that it only comes on at a set boost level.
    what if we dont have a map?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 317ssayzarc View Post
    what if we dont have a map?
    The map controller uses a vac line.

    Time for you to do your homework.


    Fully-integrated boost sensor 0 to 100psi

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    Kyle did that come with your kit ^^^?

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    Quote Originally Posted by audiFUEGO View Post
    Kyle did that come with your kit ^^^?
    yeah that comes with the stage 2 kit

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike-2ptzero View Post
    The map controller uses a vac line.

    Time for you to do your homework.

    Fully-integrated boost sensor 0 to 100psi
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    aren't all the new SP stage 2 kits come with MAP and MAF? I think they just got fed up with people not sure what to use. both work just fine. i suggest the map set up since its easier to set up and hook up.
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    What Mike said. Just run it off vac. Thats how I did mine
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    for the sake of the thread. and those that setup their WMI off the MAP sensor. you need to tap into the wire coming off of terminal #4 on the back of the connector. it's easily marked so you cant miss it
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    alright I just used a t fitting and spliced into the DV line to get pressure to the controller...it starts spraying at 10psi and goes into full spray at 18psi

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    Re: Meth Injection?

    How's your "correction factor"/Timing retard after the install?

    Time for some tweaking(timing advance) now that you've got the W/M inj.
    How much boost are you running?
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    Quote Originally Posted by djwimbo View Post
    How's your "correction factor"/Timing retard after the install?

    Time for some tweaking(timing advance) now that you've got the W/M inj.
    How much boost are you running?
    my correction factors were fine before the install and they are still fine after but the car just seems to pull a lot harder even without increasing boost or timing. right now i bumped the boost to 26psi

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    26psi?

    are you planing on running that daily?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sean1.8t View Post
    26psi?

    are you planing on running that daily?
    Well that was the point of him running WI since he cant add more timing since he is NDBW. I just hope he has some type of back up hooked up that will cause the boost to drop back down below 22psi if there is a problem with the WI system.

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    Re: Meth Injection?

    I was thinking about getting w/m to. Do you think its well worth it? Any pros or cons? Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by b5a4gt28 View Post
    I was thinking about getting w/m to. Do you think its well worth it? Any pros or cons? Thanks
    Pros: safe increase in boost and timing possible, safe decrease in timing pull via lowered intake air temps, cleans the intake every time it's used,...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike-2ptzero View Post
    Well that was the point of him running WI since he cant add more timing since he is NDBW. I just hope he has some type of back up hooked up that will cause the boost to drop back down below 22psi if there is a problem with the WI system.
    well.... um...... DUH!

    that's not what i was scared of. im a bit nervous on how long his stock motor will like that much boost and timing
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    Quote Originally Posted by sean1.8t View Post
    well.... um...... DUH!

    that's not what i was scared of. im a bit nervous on how long his stock motor will like that much boost and timing
    im not constantly at full boost...and the w/m doesnt start spraying right away. if i drive normal i rarely ever see more than 5psi

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean1.8t View Post
    well.... um...... DUH!

    that's not what i was scared of. im a bit nervous on how long his stock motor will like that much boost and timing
    He is pushing more boost because there isn't enough timing to support the WI so it isn't like he is runing a ton of timing anyway. This is just like throwing 100 octane into a 91 tune, it just doesn't take advantage of it.


    Plenty of people have ran that much boost on a stock motor. I pushed 26psi on 91 octane with my K03, the J31 file pushes up to 30psi and the B6 guys are running the BT's at 25+psi on race gas. So the motor can handle the boost, the problem is when people try to push the timing to far causing the stock rods to snap like a tooth pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike-2ptzero View Post
    He is pushing more boost because there isn't enough timing to support the WI so it isn't like he is runing a ton of timing anyway. This is just like throwing 100 octane into a 91 tune, it just doesn't take advantage of it.


    Plenty of people have ran that much boost on a stock motor. I pushed 26psi on 91 octane with my K03, the J31 file pushes up to 30psi and the B6 guys are running the BT's at 25+psi on race gas. So the motor can handle the boost, the problem is when people try to push the timing to far causing the stock rods to snap like a tooth pick.
    there is no way to increase timing on the nDBW is there mike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiRacerS4 View Post
    there is no way to increase timing on the nDBW is there mike?
    Not that I have seen.

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    Not that I have seen.
    me either but i was just checking

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