Popped my drag strip cherry today...

[KompMan420]

Got there a little late so I only ended up getting 2 runs. First one pretty much sucked, but I didn't break anything so I was happy. Second one I felt much more comfortable and had a good improvement and still didn't break anything.

My concern is that my times seem pretty high for my mods. I'm making full boost, but I haven't tested for leaks.

First run:
.838 - R/T
2.039 - 60'
5.827 - 330'
8.968 - 1/8
79.54 - 1/8 mph
11.593 - 1000'
13.832 - 1/4
100.48 mph

Second run:
.642 - R/T
1.895 - 60'
5.556 - 330'
8.574 - 1/8
82.74 - 1/8 mph
11.123 - 1000'
13.314 - 1/4
102.11 mph

Mods are in my sig, but I'm wonding if the stock IC's played a part or if I just need to learn how to drive?? Track conditions were pretty mild. 76 degrees, sea level, overcast.

All in all, I'm happy nothing broke, but I was expecting 12's

[evilgabbie]

yeah it does seem high... for a 420hp S4

run a vag to check for errors i guess

[lil' is 300]

Yikes, you sure you have K04s? heh

[1997gtx]

Yikes is right, sorry! I can almost pull the same time with just a chip. I'd start logging.

Also, any CELs?
--Adam

[FrimmelNoJerz]

what track?

[SilverSurferS4]

Were you launching the car?

[KompMan420]

Only code I've got is for an AC pressure switch. Temps were mild, probably 75-80 degrees. I didn't check, but weather.com said a high of 76 today. I'm thinking I might have a small boost leak, but I am spiking at around 21psi. Yes, I'm sure I have K04's...

This was down at Bradenton Motorsport. I was launching around 2500-3000rpm's, but honestly, I didn't look. Being a noob at the track I was just focused on the tree and NOT hitting the wall.

[lil' is 300]

You could break the 12's by lowering your 60' but that is still way off in both trap speed and ET for a stage 3.

[1997gtx]

60 foot wasn't bad for a 1st trip to the track. As Alex noted, dropping the 60ft (ie - better launch) still wouldn't be enough to make sense.
--Adam

[Boris]

somethings not right. 100 mph trap? the b6/7 s4s are trapping higher than that stock..

Somethings not right..

[KompMan420]

I agree, but what's not right? That's the question.

[1997gtx]

Are you on the stock fueling? What kind of tune do you have?
--Adam

[KompMan420]

Out of the box AWE stage 3 pump gas. The only thing I don't have from that kit is the Intercoolers and headers. Those are both stock.

EDIT - Oh yea, I did have 3/4 of a tank at the time with full interior, etc.

[YBLEGL]

I ran a few mid to high 12's a while back at stage 2+ on stock intercoolers no MBC you should easily see low low 12's or even 11's on that setup.

[generationjdm]

Get some ics and turn the boost up, not to start anything but the cars not making anywhere near 420hp thats the problem. Revhard went 13.1 at 104mph stage 1 full weight on 19ss with a slipping clutch on garbage tires in his old car and his car was making less then 325hp.. He had a chip and catback thats it

[FrimmelNoJerz]

want my rs4 intercoolers and apr hoses? for a price of course.

[1997gtx]

Get some ics and turn the boost up, not to start anything but the cars not making anywhere near 420hp at only 15 lbs thats the problem. Revhard went 13.1 at 104mph stage 1 full weight on 19ss with a slipping clutch on garbage tires in his old car and his car was making less then 325hp.. He had a chip and catback thats it

His rims weigh 15lbs, I think. He noted he was spiking to 21psi.

Also, KompMan, what are you holding boost at?
--Adam

[Jung]

wow dude something is definitely wrong. wtf. are you a tip or something lol?

[panix73]

The ambient temps are certainly playing a part in your high times, espeically as you get further down the track, pushing the car harder. Although you are still on stock IC's, you should be trapping much higher on the 1/8 and 1/4 mi. Your second run was obviously better and with a 1.895, it wasn't a terrible launch.

What were your shift points? Thats the only other thing I could think of that could be causing a slower trap, besides the ones discussed..

[lil' is 300]

I don't think the temperature has much to do with it...

Here is a run with my Stage 2 on 93 octane, stock downpipes, all cats and stock IC's... Run was in 75 degree weather after hotlapping.

1.753 - 60'
5.357 - 330'
8.312 - 1/8
84.14 - 1/8 mph
10.849 - 1000'
12.974 - 1/4
106.34 mph

vs. his stage 3 in the same temp...

1.895 - 60'
5.556 - 330'
8.574 - 1/8
82.74 - 1/8 mph
11.123 - 1000'
13.314 - 1/4
102.11 mph

[FrimmelNoJerz]

im sorry...i had to.

it was working.

[AMC]

wow dude something is definitely wrong. wtf. are you a tip or something lol?

HAHA

[///M3 TO S4]

this was a 1/2 mile, right? Please, tell me it was.....
Your car does NOT have 420hp......not anywhere close, id give you 300hp, tops. You're running what a STOCK B5 S4 runs, basically.....You need to check a LOT of things, I have an awe stage 3 car on pump too, and it's deff. a low 12 sec car. What rpm are you shifting at in each gear?

[1997gtx]

im sorry...i had to.

[1997gtx]

this was a 1/2 mile, right? Please, tell me it was.....
Your car does NOT have 420hp......not anywhere close, id give you 300hp, tops. You're running what a STOCK B5 S4 runs, basically.....You need to check a LOT of things, I have an awe stage 3 car on pump too, and it's deff. a low 12 sec car.

This post really isn't necessary.
--Adam

[JMTx86]

Sounds like driver error to me. More boost, ebay FMIC = 12 even with bad driving. And what clutch are you running?

[///M3 TO S4]

I'm sorry Adam......:( I wasn't trying to be mean...just honest, and giving him something to compare to.

[1997gtx]

Yes, I know. But, you know it's a 1/4 mile track and you didn't present any #'s to compare to. Just saying

No worries.
--Adam

[AB18]

^ Since when does basically stock S4 run 13.30s in the 1/4?. I can drive, and i had to drive mine into the ground to see 13.90s basically stock. My guess is your not shifting fast enough. Heres one of my old slips..

60ft- 1.850
330ft-5.6
660ft-8.8
MPH 77.34
1000-11.6
1/4-13.93

Basically stock,unchipped.

[///M3 TO S4]

^ Since when does basically stock S4 run 13.30s in the 1/4?. I can drive, and i had to drive mine into the ground to see 13.90s basically stock. My guess is your not shifting fast enough. Heres one of my old slips..

60ft- 1.850
330ft-5.6
660ft-8.8
MPH 77.34
1000-11.6
1/4-13.93

Basically stock,unchipped.

Did you happen to look at his first run.....Looks pretty damn close to me....

First run:
.838 - R/T
2.039 - 60'
5.827 - 330'
8.968 - 1/8
79.54 - 1/8 mph
11.593 - 1000'
13.832 - 1/4
100.48 mph

[BastardS4]

I agree that you are not making power.

Id say the first thing to check is for boost leaks.

[gotaudi]

he doesnt have to look very hard if he has a boost leak. it has to be huge

[AB18]

Did you happen to look at his first run.....Looks pretty damn close to me....

First run:
.838 - R/T
2.039 - 60'
5.827 - 330'
8.968 - 1/8
79.54 - 1/8 mph
11.593 - 1000'
13.832 - 1/4
100.48 mph

Did you happen to look at his second? On his first run he had a 2.0 60ft, what do you expect? You can throw out that first run as far as im concerned. Also, if he is making the boost he says he is, he doesn't have a "huge" boost leak.

[generationjdm]

100mph is obtained on basically stock s4ss

[AB18]

Not very easy, i only trapped 97mph.

[///M3 TO S4]

Not very easy, i only trapped 97mph.

You have to take in MANY, MANY different factors....elevation, temp, humidity, condition of stock car....you can't make a blatant assumption that a stock S4 is slower/faster than your car, that it's the standard. I hate to "bench race" but car and driver trapped 100mph and ran a 14.1 like 6 years back.

[Das General]

At the end of the day the OPS ride is clearly not performing up to par. So lets help this guy out.

I think some logs would help.

[AB18]

I agree, if the op could post up some 3rd gear pulls it would help alot.

[KompMan420]

Ya know, I expected some flaming and that really doesn't bother me since this was MY FIRST TIME AT THE TRACK, but it's painfully obvious there's something wrong. Thank you to those that are trying to help me track down the issue. I'll try to do some third gear logs, but what do you guys recommend I log? Just boost?

Also, I usually hold at around 17-18psi boost according to my AWE gauge, but I'm pretty sure that thing is about a tick or so low like a lot of the others. I'm going to try getting some new DV's this week. I've had them for almost 50k miles and it's cheap enough to just replace them.

I'm shifting at around 6500-6800rpm's. I've found from my street experiences that shifting any higher just kills my power since I am running stock IC's. I know I'm no pro driver, but I'm shifting pretty quickly. It's not like I'm driving Miss Daisy

[generationjdm]

Know one is flaming you, werr just saying theres an obvious problem..