Larger oil filter

[Burntaudi]

I don't know if any of you had heard about the larger oil filter that Audi is recommending for the 2004.5 A4 http://forums.audiworld.com/a4gen2/msgs/622904.phtml

Anyways I did a little research today tried to find the Amsoil equal to Audi filter all I could find was a Hastings (who actually makes Amsoils filter for them) there is no Amsoil application in that size though so I picked up the hastings and I also dropped by the dealer turns out the Audi filter was another half a inch longer than the Hastings so I picked that up instead.

I also spoke with the parts guy. He said that they had gotten a service bulletin that Audi is recommending the new larger filter and synthetic oil for all 97+ 1.8T's

The part# is (068 115 561 B) I threw it on when I got home tonight. It went right on with no trouble. Just make sure that theres nothing in the way when putting this on there's a couple wires real close to the filter mount.

All I can say is this is worth while doing I gained a at least a half a quart of oil capacity and Im' hopeing that my oil temps will drop a few degrees.

[RippleChip]

Good to know there are no issues with this, I plan on moving this direction on my next oil change.

[EVIL-AUDI]

Very nice info to have

[MR VTEC]

what is the bosch equivalent?

I did this with my integra and i notice oil pressure change and vtec came on stronger (verified with butt dyno)

[Devious27t]

NOICE!

[bhvrdr]

Here's another one fellas. It compares it to the M1 equivelant of the old filter. I called Champion (the manufacturerers of the M1 filters and they said they do not have a new equivelant yet). Oh and as an update to the thread that I posted on AW, many dealers are now admitting that the filter is reverse compatible and are offering it to pre 04.5 vehicles while being serviced. cheers! Mike

[RippleChip]

Sweet, I'll be swinging by to pick one up.

[nizmosx]

im due for a change soon so i will get this

[Hassmeister]

Originally posted by Burntaudi
I don't know if any of you had heard about the larger oil filter that Audi is recommending for the 2004.5 A4 http://forums.audiworld.com/a4gen2/msgs/622904.phtml

Anyways I did a little research today tried to find the Amsoil equal to Audi filter all I could find was a Hastings (who actually makes Amsoils filter for them) there is no Amsoil application in that size though so I picked up the hastings and I also dropped by the dealer turns out the Audi filter was another half a inch longer than the Hastings so I picked that up instead.

I also spoke with the parts guy. He said that they had gotten a service bulletin that Audi is recommending the new larger filter and synthetic oil for all 97+ 1.8T's

The part# is (068 115 561 B) I threw it on when I got home tonight. It went right on with no trouble. Just make sure that theres nothing in the way when putting this on there's a couple wires real close to the filter mount.

All I can say is this is worth while doing I gained a at least a half a quart of oil capacity and Im' hopeing that my oil temps will drop a few degrees.

If you are going to use the larger filter for routine oil changes 3-5K you should be okay. Longer drain intervals I'd recommend the Amsoil SDF Oil Filter. It's not the size off the filter the really matters, it's what's inside and how it was constructed. The bigger filter will help in reduction of oil temp and capacity, but only slighty. If you race or live in extreme HOT Temp zone I'd go oil cooler and with our cars you don't require a huge one.
BTW, "MANN" makes a oil filter that is Larger too and was used on a lot of VW diesel applications. I used to run them on my VW Rabbits. Don't have the part number handy.

[Numbersix]

Already have one sitting on the shelf, awaiting my next change.

That, combined with my S4 oil/water heat exchanger, should keep things nice and cool.

[Burntaudi]

Originally posted by Hassmeister
If you are going to use the larger filter for routine oil changes 3-5K you should be okay. Longer drain intervals I'd recommend the Amsoil SDF Oil Filter. It's not the size off the filter the really matters, it's what's inside and how it was constructed. The bigger filter will help in reduction of oil temp and capacity, but only slighty. If you race or live in extreme HOT Temp zone I'd go oil cooler and with our cars you don't require a huge one.
BTW, "MANN" makes a oil filter that is Larger too and was used on a lot of VW diesel applications. I used to run them on my VW Rabbits. Don't have the part number handy.

Well I'm hopping that Amsoil will step up to the plate and come out with a SDF in the larger size...I did find a hastings in the same large filter but I'm guessing that's not as good as the Amsoil SDF. So I opted for the Audi filter since it was bigger.

Also I was told that the larger filter that Audi is selling for the 1.8T now is same part# as what they sell for the 77-84 Diesel Rabbit.

[Burntaudi]

Originally posted by Numbersix
Already have one sitting on the shelf, awaiting my next change.

That, combined with my S4 oil/water heat exchanger, should keep things nice and cool.

Please tell me more about the S4 Oil to water exchanger is it larger than the 1.8T unit....does it bolt right up?

[Hassmeister]

Originally posted by Burntaudi
Well I'm hopping that Amsoil will step up to the plate and come out with a SDF in the larger size...I did find a hastings in the same large filter but I'm guessing that's not as good as the Amsoil SDF. So I opted for the Audi filter since it was bigger.

Also I was told that the larger filter that Audi is selling for the 1.8T now is same part# as what they sell for the 77-84 Diesel Rabbit.

Sounds like the same as the MANN filter I had mentioned.

[Burntaudi]

Originally posted by Hassmeister
Sounds like the same as the MANN filter I had mentioned.

That's what I was thinking

[Marita]

thanks for the info, if only it was done earlier i wouldve done it since i just got my oil changed, oh well ill wait till the next one

[skene]

I'm sure 5k miles will come up quick.

[Numbersix]

The S4 unit is a direct bolt-on; it uses the stock A4 coolant hoses.

It was installed because the oil/water heat exchangers have a bad habit of failing internally...had 2 of them go on my Jetta before I went with an external Mocal. Similar unit failed on my 944S as well, resulting in the rod bearings being replaced.

[Burntaudi]

So does the oil run cooler with the S4 unit or is it just more reliable than the A4 unit?

By the way everyone got a chance to drive a little today and my oil temps are noticably cooler.

[Marita]

Originally posted by skene
I'm sure 5k miles will come up quick.

i do mine at 3k is that ok?

[RippleChip]

Can't hurt to do it more often, but some see it as a waste of money depending on the oil your using.

[Marita]

Originally posted by RippleChip
Can't hurt to do it more often, but some see it as a waste of money depending on the oil your using.

Mobil 1 synthetic 5W-30


my co-worker says Valvoline is better than Mobil 1 is that true????


sorry for the hijack

[Numbersix]

Originally posted by Burntaudi
So does the oil run cooler with the S4 unit or is it just more reliable than the A4 unit?

Just more capacity = better cooling.

I've yet to see my car run above 200-205 with the S4 unit, even when being driven aggressively. I think that's pretty decent for a Stg3 car. The 205 deg reading was crawling along in 1st gear 5pm stop and go traffic on a 90 degree day with the A/C on.

By the way everyone got a chance to drive a little today and my oil temps are noticably cooler.

More oil capacity will do that for you .

My 944S's 2.5L DOHC 4 took 6.5 qts of oil. I used to have to argue with the parts monkeys at the local auto parts place about the fact that, no joke, it takes 7 quarts to do an oil change.

[Burntaudi]

Originally posted by Marita
Mobil 1 synthetic 5W-30


my co-worker says Valvoline is better than Mobil 1 is that true????


sorry for the hijack

Don't know about Valvoline...but it's my opinion that Amsoil is far superior product compared to Mobil 1 or Valvoline.

You should check them out www.amsoil.com lots of good reading

[Burntaudi]

Originally posted by Numbersix
Just more capacity = better cooling.

I've yet to see my car run above 200-205 with the S4 unit, even when being driven aggressively. I think that's pretty decent for a Stg3 car. The 205 deg reading was crawling along in 1st gear 5pm stop and go traffic on a 90 degree day with the A/C on.



More oil capacity will do that for you .

My 944S's 2.5L DOHC 4 took 6.5 qts of oil. I used to have to argue with the parts monkeys at the local auto parts place about the fact that, no joke, it takes 7 quarts to do an oil change.

Looks like I found my next mod...thanks