What's required to piece a KO4 kit together? (B6)

**madrussian** · 08-10-2004 07:59 AM

So I was just wondering whats needed, since this seems to be the sole kit that's working w/o problems and putting out fairly steady numbers, but lets not get into that...

I have this list:

Chip
Injectors
K04 Turbo

What else?

**Saturnine** · 08-10-2004 10:01 AM

Thats it, other than new gaskets for everything.

**voodooA4** · 08-10-2004 11:31 AM

you don't need an FPR for the B6?

**skene** · 08-10-2004 02:14 PM

why would you?
you are already going to have a higher flow rated injector.

all FPRs flow the same at a constant.. only when at certain points of full request does it need to be change.

**Saturnine** · 08-10-2004 03:46 PM

Nope, the B6's dont have an FPR.

Originally posted by voodooA4
you don't need an FPR for the B6?

**madrussian** · 08-10-2004 08:35 PM

What injectors would you recommend and who sells gaskets?

**skene** · 08-11-2004 08:29 AM

IIRC you would need the TT injectors.

**Saturnine** · 08-11-2004 10:25 AM

You dont need TT injectors, but they are probably the best ones to get. I have Vw 317cc injectors at the momemnt, and they work just fine.

I believe the TT's are 380cc?

Obviously, more fuel can mean more power with the right software. I plan on upgrading my injectors in a few months to something a little larger

**madrussian** · 08-11-2004 01:38 PM

Coo... who sells gaskets?

**MKGIY** · 08-11-2004 03:11 PM

ECS has gaskets for the KO4.

Mike

**giago** · 08-11-2004 03:44 PM

Which software is avaliable for this???

**madrussian** · 08-11-2004 04:44 PM

Neuspeed... I think Saturnine, Mark and Matt Devo are all running Neuspeed. I know John's running 1.35BAR

**madrussian** · 08-11-2004 04:44 PM

BTW, where's the best place to look for K04's and should I buy used or new?

**voodooA4** · 08-11-2004 07:51 PM

I wouldn't buy a used one unless it's a good deal and you have it checked out...even then, only if you can't afford a new one.

**giago** · 08-11-2004 08:52 PM

Get a new one!

**Elberoth** · 08-13-2004 08:38 AM

Originally posted by Saturnine

I believe the TT's are 380cc?

360ccm.

**Elberoth** · 08-13-2004 08:39 AM

Originally posted by enjoiweb
So I was just wondering whats needed, since this seems to be the sole kit that's working w/o problems and putting out fairly steady numbers, but lets not get into that...

I have this list:

Chip
Injectors
K04 Turbo

What else?

Spark plugs.

**madrussian** · 08-17-2004 06:38 AM

What spark plugs? and where do I buy a new K04?

**Elberoth** · 08-17-2004 09:31 AM

Originally posted by enjoiweb
What spark plugs? and where do I buy a new K04?

Colder ones. Ask Mark about the turbo.

**AFOUR_PLAY** · 08-18-2004 08:09 PM

ECS have K04 turbos. they are on back order. I have been waiting for 2 weeks for my K04.

I just can't wait!!!!

Does anyone know when they are expecting the K04's to arrive?

**sighpost** · 08-18-2004 09:53 PM

I dont know what the availablility is but its a nice price

**AFOUR_PLAY** · 08-18-2004 10:35 PM

Not available yet.
I emailed them last week.

I put an order in with ECS as they are well known and have dellivered products quickly. I'm from Australia and it took them 3 days to send a snub mount and K04 gasket kit.

Their customer service could use improving.
Been 10 days and still no reply to my email.

**madrussian** · 08-19-2004 06:26 AM

Originally posted by AFOUR_PLAY
Not available yet.
I emailed them last week.

I put an order in with ECS as they are well known and have dellivered products quickly. I'm from Australia and it took them 3 days to send a snub mount and K04 gasket kit.

Their customer service could use improving.
Been 10 days and still no reply to my email.

LMAO, you said a mouthful, I live 10 mins away from them and they have shitty customer service. I've called, emailed, and IM'd them about 20x in regards to some tranny work I wanted to have done and nothing...

Hell I even ran into some of the guys that work there at local car meets and nothing. Ran into the owner's brother, the guy who does the website, the guy who owns it...

It amazes, so believe it or not, I've stayed away from ECS... even though they're local and I wouldn't have to pay shipping.

**madrussian** · 08-19-2004 06:40 AM

Would 364cc injectors work ok?

I found a set of 4 brand new at ECS for $250...

BTW, Saturnine and other guys w/ the K04, where'd you get yours?

**sighpost** · 08-19-2004 11:42 AM

Yes those injectors will work as long as the software is set for 364cc injectors. Who is doing your programming/tunning?

**madrussian** · 08-19-2004 09:01 PM

Well I was going to go w/ Neuspeed probablly... but I dunno, I may go w/ Revo from Ecode only because I'm sick of the CEL from the test pipe.... and w/ their software they say they can get rid of it.

**bitterchild** · 08-20-2004 05:13 AM

Just get an OBD II o2 modulator. You can find them for $20 on eBay. Sends a bogus primary o2 sensor voltage to your ecu, thus no more CE light. Gotta make sure your software isn't trimming based on those reading though.

**zemun2** · 08-20-2004 07:51 AM

Originally posted by bitterchild
Just get an OBD II o2 modulator. You can find them for $20 on eBay. Sends a bogus primary o2 sensor voltage to your ecu, thus no more CE light. Gotta make sure your software isn't trimming based on those reading though.

It doesnt work with B6's.
Just get REVO, I had mine with test pipe for 3K miles and so far no CEL.

D,

**CO AVANT** · 08-20-2004 04:58 PM

Here is my breakdown:

KO4-15 from Pro-imports - $700 w/ hardware (higher now)
Ecode REVO tuning w/ SPS3 - $900
Ecode FMIC - $900
Custom P&P mani - $150
Bosch copper plugs - forgot, but cheap
TTDV - $30
360cc injectors - $420
New mani gaskets - $15
Install - $250

**CO AVANT** · 08-20-2004 05:01 PM

Is there anyone here with REVO software yet for a KO4? All I've heard is Neuspeed. Revo w/ SPS3 is $500 more, I'm wondering if the extra $500 is worth it? Will REVO be smoother?!?

**sighpost** · 08-20-2004 07:16 PM

Speaking as some one who just noticed honking on his TTDV, I can say with a good deal of confidence that you will want a heartier valve on that thing. Im switching to GFB DV. Ill let everyone know how it works out.

**CO AVANT** · 08-20-2004 07:39 PM

I thought the same thing as well, but Mark has been running his KO4 for awhile now with the TTDV, and has no problems even spiking at 23psi. I had a hyperboost adj. DV, but it was shot after a year in stock mode. Maybe I'll look into Forge.

Jordan

**Saturnine** · 08-23-2004 09:17 AM

My injectors came with my turbo.. I bought them both used

Btw, what 364cc injectors are they Anton?

**Mark** · 08-23-2004 09:55 PM

Originally posted by CO AVANT
I thought the same thing as well, but Mark has been running his KO4 for awhile now with the TTDV, and has no problems even spiking at 23psi. I had a hyperboost adj. DV, but it was shot after a year in stock mode. Maybe I'll look into Forge.

Jordan

no problems with my 710N valve at all. I've had no honking at all since I replaced the weaker stock one. even if it does fail, it's only 30 beans to get a new one. since I've had the same one for the last 25k I picked up a spare a few months back for the upcoming few years.

**imajn34** · 08-26-2004 07:04 PM

I'm going K04 if it's as reliable as K03, if there is such a thing as a reliable turbo. I'd like to be able to drop in the turbo and forget about it in other words. Just like as if I purchased my car with the K03, of course, cooling down the engine and properly warming up the car, oil changes and what not. Would it be safe for me to go SK04 and still continue to have a turbo that's equally as reliable as the K04 and K03?

**CO AVANT** · 08-27-2004 07:03 AM

Hell no, that SKO4 is a hybrid turbo, which = no long term testing. Go EO5 over the SKO4 anyday...I got a KO4 because of the same stuff you're talking about. Reliability.

Jordan

**Devious27t** · 08-27-2004 07:43 AM

Originally posted by CO AVANT
Hell no, that SKO4 is a hybrid turbo, which = no long term testing. Go EO5 over the SKO4 anyday...I got a KO4 because of the same stuff you're talking about. Reliability.

Jordan

strike that and reverse it, the SK04 is a ten fold better turbo than that paper weight E-05.....

**imajn34** · 08-27-2004 07:47 AM

Originally posted by CO AVANT
Hell no, that SKO4 is a hybrid turbo, which = no long term testing. Go EO5 over the SKO4 anyday...I got a KO4 because of the same stuff you're talking about. Reliability.

Jordan

When you take your car into to get serviced to they question the turbo or does it pretty much hide itself well as a K03? How's the turbo lag? Do you know what you're boosting.

**zemun2** · 08-27-2004 07:56 AM

Originally posted by imajn34
I'm going K04 if it's as reliable as K03, if there is such a thing as a reliable turbo. I'd like to be able to drop in the turbo and forget about it in other words. Just like as if I purchased my car with the K03, of course, cooling down the engine and properly warming up the car, oil changes and what not. Would it be safe for me to go SK04 and still continue to have a turbo that's equally as reliable as the K04 and K03?

This is my SK04, I also made 156 WHP with it.

**imajn34** · 08-27-2004 10:55 AM

156whp....Now I'm wondering if the upgrade is even worth it. Well it's better than whatever whp I have with my chip and exhaust on this heavy car. Maybe I should just get a FMIC, boost controller and bigger turbo inlet pipe and some CAMS!!! JK about the cams.

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