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    Veteran Member Two Rings
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    Wat kinda Suspensions, Shocks, u use

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    so i am going to lower my car.
    but then i have no idea wat brand or wat should i use
    need u guy's suggestions or any feeback!!
    thanks man!

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    Veteran Member Three Rings EugeneK's Avatar
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    neuspeed bilsteins, i'm happy w/ them, they offer height adjustability but you basically have to take the whole suspension assembly if you want to adjust it again.
    koni's offer adjustable dampening, which is a pretty nice feature.
    a word of advise though... if you end up running race springs and the neuspeed bilsteins, DO NOT move the c-clip of the bilsteins any lower than they come, it's absolutely insane for daily driving.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    I had h&r/Neuspeed Bilsteins and have changed to Vogtland/Koni ... with the h&r setup ... i didn't like the fact that the car felt floaty driving over uneven surfaces on the freeway. I no longer get this feeling with the vogtland setup.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings duffS4's Avatar
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    I have H&R street coils which are great for adjustability, drop, and are stiff but don't make ride too much rougher than stock.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    I have neuspeed bilstein with neuspeed springs. Thats a better combo than H&R + neuspeed IMHO. Neuspeed psrings are just as stiff as H&R but the ride is less harsh. Also I have yet to experience the floaty feeling derek mentioned with my bilstein + neuspeed springs.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    We've had great results with the Vogtland Club Spec springs with Koni Adjustable shocks.

    The Vogtlands are some of the highest rate springs available, and use newer technology and materials in their springs.

    It's a great combination of performance with everytday driveability.

    Feel free to email with questions.

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    Registered Member Two Rings
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    i have kw variant 2 suspension and it has been pretty good to me

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    Veteran Member Four Rings jeremy@matrix's Avatar
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    Re: Wat kinda Suspensions, Shocks, u use

    Originally posted by Calc
    so i am going to lower my car.
    but then i have no idea wat brand or wat should i use
    need u guy's suggestions or any feeback!!
    thanks man!
    Calc,

    Is your Audi going to be driven on the street only, or some road course/driver's events?

    Jeremy
    Jeremy Williams
    Matrix Integrated Inc.
    www.matrixintegrated.cc

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    Active Member Four Rings Ben@SpeedBarn's Avatar
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    Yeah I need some advice too. I would like to get the drop pretty close to no fender gap. I was thinking of H&R street coiils but they are pricey. Could I get that drop with grooved bilsteins and H&R sport...or would i need race? I keep hearing great things about vogtland...but do they give the drop i want? I have bilsteins and eibachs on my a4 and it is way to soft but gave me a good drop. Also...i have an S4 avant so i think the spring rates are higher in the rear on most setups because of this. It makes it much harder to find a used setup. It is my daily driver but i may take it to the track a few times to see how it does. Thinking about getting a nuespeed rear bar too.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    STaSIS Tracksports is my recommendation.

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    Registered Member Three Rings excursion's Avatar
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    Koni coilovers

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    Veteran Member Four Rings jeremy@matrix's Avatar
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    Originally posted by Ben@SpeedBarn
    Yeah I need some advice too. I would like to get the drop pretty close to no fender gap. I was thinking of H&R street coiils but they are pricey. Could I get that drop with grooved bilsteins and H&R sport...or would i need race? I keep hearing great things about vogtland...but do they give the drop i want? I have bilsteins and eibachs on my a4 and it is way to soft but gave me a good drop. Also...i have an S4 avant so i think the spring rates are higher in the rear on most setups because of this. It makes it much harder to find a used setup. It is my daily driver but i may take it to the track a few times to see how it does. Thinking about getting a nuespeed rear bar too.
    Hey Ben,

    For your B5 cars I would highly recommend the STaSIS Street Sport coilovers(on special this month for $950--and you receive a free STaSIS shirt);

    STaSIS Street Sport Koni Coilover Kit for B5 A4/S4; 4 KONI sport dampers; single adjustable (rebound), narrow band; suspension disassembly required for adjustment; cadmium plated threaded steel damper bodies; height adjustable; 4 progressive rate KONI springs (400 lb. spring rate); balanced and adjusted on SPA damper dynamometer.
    These are not the same as the off-the-shelf Koni coilovers as STaSIS puts the dampers on their shock dyno, matches the set, sets the damping for optimum ride/handling, sets the spring perch heights, and also includes easy-to-follow instructions.

    From installing numerous kits on B5s with 17s, we know that if you want the suspension to go really low, this setup will allow you to tuck the tire under the fenderwell(of course for optimum handling on a B5 we suggest lowering the vehicle about 1.25-1.4").

    For the price, this STaSIS Street Sport kit can't be beat; ride height adjustability, rebound adjustability, ability to go low if you want, great ride/handling.....all for $950.


    If you're going to be tracking one of the vehicles more than a few times a year then I'd recommend STaSIS's Track Sport coilovers;

    STaSIS Single Adjustable Coil Over Kit for A4/S4; 4 STaSIS custom-valved KONI dampers; double digressive damping; single adjustable (rebound), wide band; adjustable while installed on vehicle; cadmium plated threaded steel damper bodies; height adjustable; 4 STaSIS custom lower spring perches; 2 STaSIS custom upper rear spring perches; 4 linear rate Hyperco springs; 450 lb. to 1000 lb. spring rates; balanced and adjusted on SPA damper dynamometer
    $1995

    This kit is a very customized kit based on how you want the car to ride/handle---so by talking with us about your plans with the car we can have the suspension set up accordingly.


    Regarding the rear Neuspeed 19mm bar, I'd recommend installing a great suspension first and then seeing if you think the car is still pushing a bit. Most of our customers with the STaSIS Track Sport kits have had a Neuspeed rear bar on before the TS kit, then after fitting the kit decide that the rear bar isn't necessary.

    I hope that helps a bit. If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to contact me.

    Also, please keep in mind that we have no sales tax in Oregon so that means considerable savings on big purchases.


    Best regards,
    Jeremy
    Jeremy Williams
    Matrix Integrated Inc.
    www.matrixintegrated.cc

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    Established Member Two Rings
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    Apex springs and koni adjustables. The ride isn't too harsh or stiff and the car handles and corners nice. I'ts a pretty smooth ride. I'm riding on 19's and have about a finger gap all around.
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    Re: Re: Wat kinda Suspensions, Shocks, u use

    Originally posted by jeremy@matrix
    Calc,

    Is your Audi going to be driven on the street only, or some road course/driver's events?

    Jeremy
    oh street mostly,i am thinking h&r coilover...hows the handling of them?
    and wats the price?man too many choice
    Last edited by Calc; 08-23-2004 at 07:20 PM.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings jeremy@matrix's Avatar
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    Re: Re: Re: Wat kinda Suspensions, Shocks, u use

    Originally posted by Calc
    oh street mostly,i am thinking h&r coilover...hows the handling of them?
    and wats the price?man too many choice
    Hey Calc,

    If you're going to be on the street than I would definitely recommend the STaSIS Street Sport coilovers. H&R's in comparison are more money, not rebound adjustable for ride like the STaSIS are, and in our experience the H&R's are oversprung and underdamped, resulting in a porpoising ride(not so good).

    The STaSIS Street Sport's are only $950 this month!!

    Let me know. Only a few kits are still left up for grabs right now.

    Plus, we can do an expert install for you Calc. We installed the STaSIS Street Sports for another Vancouver BC customer a few weeks ago.
    Jeremy Williams
    Matrix Integrated Inc.
    www.matrixintegrated.cc

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    Veteran Member Three Rings Cable's Avatar
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    Stasis - Motorsports.

    Very happy car is dialed in and in lock down.....750f/900r spring rates need I say more?

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    Established Member Two Rings
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    Stasis Tracksports 700/800. If you have the cash, they are awesome.

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