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    Veteran Member Four Rings JMG's Avatar
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    FMIC or DSMIC for a KO3

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    Are there DSMIC kits available for the B5? If so, is it worth it for a KO3? Or should I just go for the FMIC? I'm not looking for looks, more for performance and a good price.
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    Active Member Four Rings
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    No, you can't fit a secondary one in our cars

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    The airbox is too deep on the passenger side...no?
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    Veteran Member Three Rings voodooA4's Avatar
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    there's a small FMIC + your stock SMIC kit around, don't remember who sells it though.
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    Established Member Two Rings
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    It will add only 8 HP max, maybe less and about 6ft/lbs
    I just had my car on the dyno alonth w/ a car w/ same setup + FMIC
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    Veteran Member Four Rings JMG's Avatar
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    Originally posted by jtenright
    It will add only 8 HP max, maybe less and about 6ft/lbs
    I just had my car on the dyno alonth w/ a car w/ same setup + FMIC
    To the wheels? That sounds about right to me.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Burntaudi's Avatar
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    Originally posted by jtenright
    It will add only 8 HP max, maybe less and about 6ft/lbs
    I just had my car on the dyno alonth w/ a car w/ same setup + FMIC
    A larger intercooler isn't about adding power it's more about keeping the power your making from your other mods. By keeping your intake temps cooler.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings JMG's Avatar
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    Originally posted by Burntaudi
    A larger intercooler isn't about adding power it's more about keeping the power your making from your other mods. By keeping your intake temps cooler.
    Hmm.. well won't everything run more efficiently with cooler intake temps? So you would notice an increase in power over not having one. So in a way it is adding power right?
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Burntaudi's Avatar
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    Originally posted by JMG
    Hmm.. well won't everything run more efficiently with cooler intake temps? So you would notice an increase in power over not having one. So in a way it is adding power right?
    I guess that's one way to look at it.
    Alex

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    Established Member Two Rings
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    I would get one if I had a Turbo upgrade, but not gonna spend $1K on 5HP on a Ko3
    its your $$$$...if U plan on getting a Turbo upgrade, then go for it
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Howard Hughes's Avatar
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    Everyone always talks about "pressure loss" or whatever when upgrading your turbo along side with a FMIC, so wouldn't that be a much bigger issue with just a K03?
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    Registered Member Three Rings BoostinA4's Avatar
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    i wouldnt get a front mount with a a turbo uprade, if you live in a hotter area and your car is chipped i would consider....
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Burntaudi's Avatar
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    Originally posted by jtenright
    I would get one if I had a Turbo upgrade, but not gonna spend $1K on 5HP on a Ko3
    its your $$$$...if U plan on getting a Turbo upgrade, then go for it
    I ran with a K03 & FMIC for a couple of years before I threw a K04 in the car. It was worthwhile having a K03 W/FMIC. Before the FMIC when I just had a chip and exhaust I could do 1 or 2 hard throttle pulls to redline and the (worthless) stock intercooler was so heatsoaked that I could feel a hugh drop in power.

    After the FMIC I could do hard throttle pulls to redline with no noticable drop in performance.


    Originally posted by Howard Hughes
    Everyone always talks about "pressure loss" or whatever when upgrading your turbo along side with a FMIC, so wouldn't that be a much bigger issue with just a K03?
    I noticed a little bit of pressure loss when I added my FMIC. I was also running APR software at the time. I changed to GIAC. I had a special software file that was written for K03 W/FMIC the car was much stronger with GIAC and FMIC than it ever was with APR WO/FMIC.
    Alex

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Hassmeister's Avatar
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    When I had my K03 and a .08 bar with my SPP FMIC the car hauled ass. Now I have the K04 and K04 software with FMIC and the car is awesome! If you buy a SPP FMIC and drive out here I'll help you put that baby in for FREE!
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    Veteran Member Four Rings nizmosx's Avatar
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    you can have dual side mounts on a B5 i will email a video of it to anyone who does not believe me or at least pictures. is it worth it..... NO.... you should save up for a front mount wich is just big enought to flow what you are running and enough for a k04 incase you decide to upgrade.

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    Account Terminated Four Rings MR VTEC's Avatar
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    what about the bigger smic intercooler that awe sells i dont hear many people talk about that.... does it suck?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Saturnine's Avatar
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    Lets see pics.. On the 00-01's, there's no space whatsoever.. The AC dryer is in the way..

    Originally posted by nizmosx
    you can have dual side mounts on a B5 i will email a video of it to anyone who does not believe me or at least pictures. is it worth it..... NO.... you should save up for a front mount wich is just big enought to flow what you are running and enough for a k04 incase you decide to upgrade.
    '03 Audi A4 Avant, lightly modded My name is John.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings nizmosx's Avatar
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    i will post them right now if i knew how to do it. can someone help me host them.
    Last edited by nizmosx; 08-11-2004 at 10:57 AM.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings nizmosx's Avatar
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    sorry i cant figure it out on such a small screen at work, someone will have to tell me how to do it so i dont get caught at work, i used to use a website for free image uploading. but i have the pics of the dual side mounts right here on my computer just cant put them on. they are 2 pics, the left side and right side of intercooler and bumper.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings DDQ's Avatar
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    You can upload the pics right here on Audizine in your gallery.

    Or use www.photobucket.com
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    Veteran Member Four Rings nizmosx's Avatar
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Saturnine's Avatar
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    Any pics with the bumper off?

    Not that i doubt you in any way.. But could this be an S4?
    '03 Audi A4 Avant, lightly modded My name is John.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings nizmosx's Avatar
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    trust me when i say its an a4, why would someone with an s4 swap bumpers to an a4, i seen the motor, this car is parked in front of hartmann motorsport and is there all the time, it has a4 gauges, a stock a4 5 speed shift knob and all the a4 interior, this is not my car to pull off the bumper and take pics, sorry.

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