11Sec S4 vs TurboIS300 (Video)

[10SecS4]

Many thanks to Alex (lil' is 300) for the footage, video editing, and hosting.

http://kryptonik.org/lilis300/TurboIS300_vs_11SecS4.wmv

[twinsnailsS4]

Wow, that IS300 is by no means a slouch, and you beat him by a considerable amount every time. That Sportec tuning, and what ever other stuff you have on the car, are awesome because you seem to be running a good second or so faster than all other Stage III S4's. Out of curiousity, how's your car reliability wise? Good stuff man!

BTW, I like the GT2 "kill" video better. Seriously, talk about an AWD launch advantage. It was like the Porsche driver was sleeping.

As for your 3000 GT video, what exactly was happening there? I saw you take off and then like 20 cars are following behind (ok, may be more like 6 or so)

[widm3r]

he launched before the race started, and all i have to say about the s4 is wowsers!

[EC Motorwerks]

wow insane car....i wish i had that kinda ca$h.

[awdbiturbo]

WHat kind of hard parts are you running? Any manifods, k16's or labreee's. What kind of DP's do you run? I am very impressed, I am building up a s4 with k16's duh fmic and alot of other go fast goodies. Lets talk

[10SecS4]

Originally posted by widm3r
he launched before the race started, and all i have to say about the s4 is wowsers!

Not true. The owner of the 600+ RWHP GT2 was sleeping. You can hear that I left right after the third honk like I was supposed to. He's the dumbass for waiting so long. Easy money.

As for the VR4, he started to roll so as soon as I saw him move, I launched. Not my problem there either.

[10SecS4]

Originally posted by twinsnailsS4
Wow, that IS300 is by no means a slouch, and you beat him by a considerable amount every time. That Sportec tuning, and what ever other stuff you have on the car, are awesome because you seem to be running a good second or so faster than all other Stage III S4's. Out of curiousity, how's your car reliability wise? Good stuff man!

BTW, I like the GT2 "kill" video better. Seriously, talk about an AWD launch advantage. It was like the Porsche driver was sleeping.

As for your 3000 GT video, what exactly was happening there? I saw you take off and then like 20 cars are following behind (ok, may be more like 6 or so)

My car is extremely reliable. In the ten months that I've owned it, the only issue was a broken shifter: it literally exploded into about 10 different pieces! I had to drive the car home from the track in 3rd gear! Not fun! But it was warrantied since it was an aftermarket shifter. Other than that, the car has been mechanically sound. *knock on wood*

Yeah, the GT2 driver was sleeping bigtime. Dumbasses in the VR4 race were just ****in around and trying to catch us I guess. All I cared about was getting our $800 ($400 x 2 since we raced twice).

[10SecS4]

Originally posted by awdbiturbo
WHat kind of hard parts are you running? Any manifods, k16's or labreee's. What kind of DP's do you run? I am very impressed, I am building up a s4 with k16's duh fmic and alot of other go fast goodies. Lets talk

I'm running stock heads, stock cams, stock manifolds, and stock RS4 K04 turbos. Downpipes are Milltek. I'd ditch that DUH FMIC if I were you. Duh! Seriously, I think you'd make better power with RS4 intercoolers. That DUH piping is pretty scary looking, don't you think?

[DRA4]

Mad props to the S4, i wish my car could do that.

[EVIL-AUDI]

great vid.

[lil' is 300]

It was a fun run. Couldn't believe you pulled so hard. Get that automatic S4 ready and we'll do a few more runs. This time, we'll put the camera in your car so you can watch me pull away!

[$teady$upreme]

^^that auto tranny is holding some serious power man~

[[]D[][]V[][]D]

Sick s4 bro

[indica]

that 11 sec s4 is an automatic?!?!?! wtf? are you serious?

[Cable]

Nice vid!

Too bad most of the really interesting action takes place at night. Daylight provides better depth perception......plus you can see the look on the guys face when you hand him his arse........LOL.

[lil' is 300]

indica - He's talking about my tranny...it's an automatic.

Cable - The camera was mounted in the car so even if it was light out, you wouldn't see any faces. Besides, they're too many cars out when it's light out

[Jon_Rhea]

nice vids!! what were those guys talking about in the end of the VR4 vid??

[Cable]

IS - I know it was more an off the cuff comment not intended to be taken too seriously. Hence the...LOL

Nice car BTW

There is a local IS here that is blue and has a FMIC don't know wether it is manual or auto but, it looks schweet.

[Innovator]

[i] Dumbasses in the VR4 race were just ****in around and trying to catch us I guess. All I cared about was getting our $800 ($400 x 2 since we raced twice). [/B]

Hi.

I have a VR4, and I'd love to race you. I have no N2O or anything that would be sneaky. Just 475 or so AWHP.

Name the amount you'd like to bet. Any amount is fine. I am in Albany NY, and I won't have to try to catch up to you Racing from a roll is preferable, because I've snapped too many output shafts launching it.

Rick.

[creep]

^^^ if this goes down i want to see vids! should be a good race.

[DRA4]

lets get to the videos.

[I am armed]

Vids. Now.

[10SecS4]

Originally posted by Innovator
Hi.

I have a VR4, and I'd love to race you. I have no N2O or anything that would be sneaky. Just 475 or so AWHP.

Name the amount you'd like to bet. Any amount is fine. I am in Albany NY, and I won't have to try to catch up to you Racing from a roll is preferable, because I've snapped too many output shafts launching it.

Rick.

I will only race the 1/4 mile. How about 2 G's with $500 "punk out" money? Send me a PM or call me at 845-629-8901 to set it up.

P.S. Thanks for the tap for the aquamist.

[EVIL-AUDI]

11SecS4 doesn't play around eh

[Innovator]

Originally posted by 11SecS4
I will only race the 1/4 mile. How about 2 G's with $500 "punk out" money? Send me a PM or call me at 845-629-8901 to set it up.

P.S. Thanks for the tap for the aquamist.

Oh, that was you. Ok

I don't mess with 3G cars, because they are much lighter and you never know what they're packing. They usually won't bet enough money to make it worth my while. An S4 and a VR4 are about the same weight.

Look, I work on all the local police cars in the area. They would not be a problem, and I know of an isolated road that is smooth and 1 mile long . It was a private airport at one time.


What do you say to a friendly $1000.00 wager that I get you by at least 10 car lengths from a roll, to say 120 MPH?

Let me know

[Innovator]

Originally posted by s4creep
^^^ if this goes down i want to see vids! should be a good race.

Eh. Nobody up here is willing to race me for cash, so I figure I have to go after you downstate guys

[EVIL-AUDI]

haha, I'm going to watch over this closely.

[Innovator]

Cool. Just know I'm not trying to start any shit. I just want a good race for a change. Vipers and ZO6 vettes just aren't cutting it anymore.

[EVIL-AUDI]

That's what we are all here for. Enjoy.

Viper and Z06's, we have a handful of S4's around here that got tired of those guys a while back too.

[Innovator]

Well, that's quite an undertaking. They must have been stock. And with two wheel peel, they launch rather poorly compared to us AWD guys. So if they don't have enough power to catch up, they're dead in the water. So far, none of them have, except this 1996 Viper, that turned out having a 100 shot. He cleaned my clock, but I never had to pay because we busted him.

Anyway, I've developed a war chest of winnings, so I don't mind betting high.

I might even consider a race from the start, but since he has a Tip, it seems fairer to do it from a roll.

Not that I wouldn't reel him in if he got the jump, which I'm certain he would with a Tip.

Sorry if I seem cocky, I just have confidence in my baby

[EVIL-AUDI]

The S4 we speak of doesn't have a Tip.

[Innovator]

Either way.

[EVIL-AUDI]

Just making sure we are on the same page, but I'm sure 11Sec will be here soon enough.

[creep]

this is getting interesting...

[10SecS4]

For starters, I don't race from a roll for money. Since there's never a definitive starting or finish line, it's never clear who wins and who gets the money. This often leads to problems.

Secondly, racing from a roll often only proves the amount of money somebody has poured into their car; it does not really take into account driver skill, traction, reliability (i.e. not snapping an output shaft on the launch), etc. The 1/4 mile race combines a little bit of everything; that's why it's so popular in this country.

Who said I had a tip in my S4? Mine's a 6 speed. I think they were talking about the Lexus in the video, which is a slushbox.

When I said 2G's I meant $2,000, not a 2G DSM.

Let me know if you want to lock something in for the 1/4 mile. You have bigger turbos, more displacement, probably a standalone, etc, etc. You should be able to beat me easily, so let's try to set this up for $2,000 or more...

Marc

[EVIL-AUDI]

Knew he'd show

[Innovator]

Originally posted by 11SecS4
For starters, I don't race from a roll for money. Since there's never a definitive starting or finish line, it's never clear who wins and who gets the money. This often leads to problems.

Secondly, racing from a roll often only proves the amount of money somebody has poured into their car; it does not really take into account driver skill, traction, reliability (i.e. not snapping an output shaft on the launch), etc. The 1/4 mile race combines a little bit of everything; that's why it's so popular in this country.

Who said I had a tip in my S4? Mine's a 6 speed. I think they were talking about the Lexus in the video, which is a slushbox.

When I said 2G's I meant $2,000, not a 2G DSM.

Let me know if you want to lock something in for the 1/4 mile. You have bigger turbos, more displacement, probably a standalone, etc, etc. You should be able to beat me easily, so let's try to set this up for $2,000 or more...

Marc

I don't have a stand alone, just an AFC.

I have too much power to launch without potentially damaging my tranny or frying my clutch. It cost 2500 for a rebuild on it. BTDT Especially now with my Eagle F1 tires, something will likely break, because they don't like to spin like the cheaper rubber.

So 2,000 is fine but from a roll, with a finish point.In fact, 3,000 is good too. Name your price, and I'll make it worth your while.

BTW, I don't blame you for not wanting to go from a roll. Losing is no fun. There is no shame.

[10SecS4]

Why would you buy and then build an AWD car if you can't even run the 1/4 mile with it? That seems pretty foolish to me. Your car isn't a street car if you're afraid a single 1/4 mile race will result in a blown tranny or clutch. My S4 is a street car with over 400 launches on the same clutch and trans.

I'll make you a deal: If either of us break a drivetrain component off the line -- i.e., a tranny, clutch, rear end, etc., the race will be nullified and no money will exchange hands. I think that's fair.

Marc

[Innovator]

The answer is simple. I have 500 ft/lbs at the wheels.

I didn't build a car to launch, rather to be the fastest on the open road. I'm not into the 1/4 mile. As a matter of fact, the 11.3 I got was with somebody else driving. Truth is, I never seem to launch right. And I have the best trans in my car I've had to date, and I'm not looking to break it. The tranny output shaft to the TC is the weak point on my car. And FWIW, I didn't pour much money in my car. Turbos, injectors, exhaust, and a piggyback. That's it. 3000 dollars in mods and my labor.


So, if you are interested, from a first gear roll is what I'm willing to do. You must not have any N2O.

What's your problem with that anyway? With 3K at stake, I think it's you that might be the foolish one

Or maybe you are smarter than I think.

[10SecS4]

No thanks. Running from a roll is for people who either can't drive or can't hook their car. There's no fun in running from a roll. Besides, street racing is "run what ya brung" and I don't like how you are giving conditions, i.e., "no N20." I don't have a bottle in my car, but I hate when people make up all kinds of silly rules like that. What if I were to say "no race gas?" How would that be any different from you saying no nitrous?

Here's a thought: Why don't you run your S4 vs mine? Since you own a shop that specializes in building and repairing S4s, you should be able to smoke me!! I do all my work in a one car garage on my back!!

BTW, please tell me how I can get an SAFC, injectors, fuel pump, upgraded turbos and intercoolers, Modded manifolds and outlets, head and intake manifold porting, water injection, aluminum flywheel, aftermarket clutch, AVC-R, gauges, wideband, lowering springs, Volk wheels, etc, etc. for $3,000. Your mods list sounds more like $8K to $10K even with you getting a lot of it at cost. BTW, my car is pretty much all stock OEM RS4. OEM fuel system, clutch, turbos, etc.

Marc