the new hotness...

[wsdfOO]

any thoughts?







http://www.carbonio.net/a4

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wow that looks like crazy! so is it true if you don't upgrade ur turbo don't bother getting any mods?

[foofighter]

exhaust helps a lot on the top end that's pretty much it...

[fongaroos]

damn... looks good!

[BrokenXenon]

HOTair INTAKE! hahaha

[hyperspeed]

dang that looks like a pretty neato setup

[L3x]

Is there a filter that stretches down?

[wsdfOO]

Originally posted by L3x
Is there a filter that stretches down?

no, filter is contained in the cf shroud. it's fed through a funnel which draws air by the foglight, which prevents the intake from being exposed to the elements.

HOTair INTAKE! hahaha

actually the cf provides an excellent thermal barrier. i also spoke to the rep and he mentioned that they're going to be using a self-adhesive heat wrap type of material for the heat shield. supposed to make worlds of difference.

[neoprufrok]

I'm actually very interested in this. I've heard good things about the Carbonio intake for other cars. It seems to be a good way to get lower air temps to the turbo.

8-10hp is quite an ambitious claim though.

It reminds me of my old comptech icebox air intake for my civic... got me 6whp on the dyno as the filter element was housed near the manifold but the tubing came from below.

I'll be curious to see how it turns out.

[fongaroos]

yah 8 -10 for a filter sounds kinda high...

but the design is pretty good though...

basically they just kept the stock airbox design...and then ran a duct down into the area where the boosted tech has the cone filter...

[audiblack]

wow very interested. im lookin for one. the boostedtech is to dangerous since i live in a very wet environment..but this looks goodd

but i dont get it, do u keep your foglights or what...or u have to take out the cover so the air goes from there???

[$teady$upreme]

can u replace the filter??

seems like a good design to me, carbonio has its name for other cars. lots of the vw ppl use them~

[gohan]

where is the smog pump?

[hyperspeed]

disconnect it at the bottom

[1sicknickel]

Im very interested in that intake plus it would match my valve cover that I noticed you wsdfoo has. How much I searched the website and no prices to be found

[wsdfOO]

Originally posted by nickel 1.8
Im very interested in that intake plus it would match my valve cover that I noticed you wsdfoo has. How much I searched the website and no prices to be found

it's in production as we speak. price is expected to be around the $300 mark.

8-10 hp is a bit optimistic, but sounds close to reality when speaking in crank numbers. did you know just a cai is good for 14 peak whp on a g35?

[fongaroos]

Originally posted by wsdfOO
it's in production as we speak. price is expected to be around the $300 mark.

8-10 hp is a bit optimistic, but sounds close to reality when speaking in crank numbers. did you know just a cai is good for 14 peak whp on a g35?

but from what ive heard the more powerful your engine is in its stock form, the more the mods add to the power...

i dont know exactly how much hp the g35 is pushin... but i would expect it to be like 280 or something...

with that kind of hp... a cai probably DOES add 14 hp...

im not surprised...

[HyperM3]

Originally posted by fongaroos
but from what ive heard the more powerful your engine is in its stock form, the more the mods add to the power...

i dont know exactly how much hp the g35 is pushin... but i would expect it to be like 280 or something...

with that kind of hp... a cai probably DOES add 14 hp...

im not surprised...

Unfortunately I disagree with that. For the most part that may be true, but there are some cars out there that have good power but are very hard to wring out more with simple mods. Take the new M3 for instance, 333hp but you cant get much more than 345 with intake, exhaust, and chip! For most big hp applications you are adding heavy engine work or F/I. I say Kudos to BMW for doing the best from the factory, but kinda sucks for the aftermarket tuners and those of us who want to play more.

[JMG]

Originally posted by HyperM3
Unfortunately I disagree with that. For the most part that may be true, but there are some cars out there that have good power but are very hard to wring out more with simple mods. Take the new M3 for instance, 333hp but you cant get much more than 345 with intake, exhaust, and chip! For most big hp applications you are adding heavy engine work or F/I. I say Kudos to BMW for doing the best from the factory, but kinda sucks for the aftermarket tuners and those of us who want to play more.

I wish all cars started at 333!!!! Id rather have 333 in stock trim than a stage III pushing the limits. honestly, thats just freaggin excellent engineering.

[Vanimaniac]

I need TP! TP for my carbonio!

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[bhvrdr]

Originally posted by neoprufrok
I'm actually very interested in this. I've heard good things about the Carbonio intake for other cars. It seems to be a good way to get lower air temps to the turbo.

8-10hp is quite an ambitious claim though.

It reminds me of my old comptech icebox air intake for my civic... got me 6whp on the dyno as the filter element was housed near the manifold but the tubing came from below.

I'll be curious to see how it turns out.

You hit the nail on the head about the hp gains Rich,
I spoke with Paul at Carbonio and they misprinted the hp figures. They were testing several vehicles and misquoted the one in the advertising. They stated they saw a 4-6hp gain on a stock A4 and have yet to test in on a modified A4, although soon they will be doing that since this is the intake that is made to be utilized on the upcoming APR Stage 3. Notice it has a MAF reducer to be able to run on our 2.5" MAF housings, but it was really designed to handle a 3" MAF with no problem. CHeers! Mike

[DoubleAudi]

I liketet!!!!!!!1

[VRsic]

Yes. The M3 is one of the best cars EVER!

[wsdfOO]

Originally posted by HyperM3
Unfortunately I disagree with that. For the most part that may be true, but there are some cars out there that have good power but are very hard to wring out more with simple mods. Take the new M3 for instance, 333hp but you cant get much more than 345 with intake, exhaust, and chip! For most big hp applications you are adding heavy engine work or F/I. I say Kudos to BMW for doing the best from the factory, but kinda sucks for the aftermarket tuners and those of us who want to play more.

i beg to differ. i've got a friend who's pushing about 400 at the crank with a race air box, ecu and full exhaust; the only internals being schick cams. that thing is a beast. he plays with 360's all day.

[Saturnine]

I mentioned this in Jetjockeys post as well, but would the ducting down to the bumper block the second intercooler (if you have one) ??

[wsdfOO]

Originally posted by bhvrdr
You hit the nail on the head about the hp gains Rich,
I spoke with Paul at Carbonio and they misprinted the hp figures. They were testing several vehicles and misquoted the one in the advertising. They stated they saw a 4-6hp gain on a stock A4 and have yet to test in on a modified A4, although soon they will be doing that since this is the intake that is made to be utilized on the upcoming APR Stage 3. Notice it has a MAF reducer to be able to run on our 2.5" MAF housings, but it was really designed to handle a 3" MAF with no problem. CHeers! Mike

good insight. i can't wait to test it out.

[Devious27t]

Originally posted by wsdfOO
it's in production as we speak. price is expected to be around the $300 mark.

8-10 hp is a bit optimistic, but sounds close to reality when speaking in crank numbers. did you know just a cai is good for 14 peak whp on a g35?

STI's make 8whp from grouding kits.

oh and you might like to know that box, tube and air filter cost at least 300 bucks.

[bhvrdr]

Originally posted by Saturnine
I mentioned this in Jetjockeys post as well, but would the ducting down to the bumper block the second intercooler (if you have one) ??

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Yup,
That is an issue and the guys at Carbonio didnt even know our cars could have dual intercoolers. I guess its safe to say than that it has not been tested yet for those applications and looks like it will just require a bit of tweaking. I actually dont want it sucking in air from that area anyways, so was planning on doing a custom duct with it and perhaps even knocking out the passenger side high beam and running a duct strainght through the headlight housing. cheers! mike

[neoprufrok]

Originally posted by bhvrdr
You hit the nail on the head about the hp gains Rich,
I spoke with Paul at Carbonio and they misprinted the hp figures. They were testing several vehicles and misquoted the one in the advertising. They stated they saw a 4-6hp gain on a stock A4 and have yet to test in on a modified A4, although soon they will be doing that since this is the intake that is made to be utilized on the upcoming APR Stage 3. Notice it has a MAF reducer to be able to run on our 2.5" MAF housings, but it was really designed to handle a 3" MAF with no problem. CHeers! Mike

Yeah, they told me as much also when I emailed them regarding the intake. I'll be curious to see how it performs. Looks very tempting though.

[Jet Jockey]

Originally posted by Saturnine
I mentioned this in Jetjockeys post as well, but would the ducting down to the bumper block the second intercooler (if you have one) ??

OK, guys here is the scoop on the scoop. Joke.

I have talked to Paul and the engineer in charge of testing.
What is not seen or apparently in the test A4 pictures are the following. First, the duct going down towards the bottom and behind the headlight housing will be fully adjustable with what I would guess to be moveable elbow connections. So anyone will be able to adjust it the way they want it. Although they never tested it with a dual I/C set up (I don't think they were aware of such a set up), from my explanation to them, they feel confident it's a non-issue. That is one reason I will be a test mule for them. Also since I have a hard pipe to connect to their set up, we want to see if this will cause a problem.

Second, they have come up with a new heat shield. As you may know, the box itself is already build with its own heat insulating components in the fibre. However they decided in designing a better heat shield made of a sandwiched ceramic type material that is said to reflect up to 90% of the heat. This will come with the kit.

As Mike mentioned before, the kit was designed with the APR Stage 3 kit in mind. This kit use a 3" MAF but Carbonio as a reducer for the regular MAF.

If any of this info is wrong, I will correct it when new info comes by me.

[Saturnine]

Ahh.. Well i cant wait to see the pics of the install.. Im really curious to see how its all gonna fit in..

I have a CF ITG airbox that ive been meaning to install, its sorta the same idea as this one. I have to make a new inlet pipe and i havent had the time to mock one up to get welded together..

But i was concerned about blocking the second IC, so i just kinda put the idea on the back burner until i picked up an FMIC or something..

We'll see i guess

It looks something like this, except the box is more of an elbow shape, rather than straight through.

[Elberoth]

Can't wait to see the resoults. Hope it works with DSMIC as well, although I have no idea where to source the fresh air from

[Saturnine]

Good question.

Originally posted by Elberoth
Can't wait to see the resoults. Hope it works with DSMIC as well, although I have no idea where to source the fresh air from

[bhvrdr]

Originally posted by Elberoth
Can't wait to see the resoults. Hope it works with DSMIC as well, although I have no idea where to source the fresh air from

How often do you really use BOTH of your hi beams :) I'd be willing to sacrivice one of mine to route the fresh air duct strait through my passenger hi beam headlight.

[Saturnine]

Thats a good idea, but have fun sealing it up again.

[bhvrdr]

Originally posted by Saturnine
Thats a good idea, but have fun sealing it up again.

No doubt. There is nothing more annoying than the foggy headlight.

[Saturnine]

I have some pics at home ill show you.. I started to do a project like your talking about.

[bhvrdr]

Originally posted by Saturnine
I have some pics at home ill show you.. I started to do a project like your talking about.

Sweet,
Hit me up when you get them. I'd love to see it. I was working of of the Champion racing pics. I'd love to see what you have tried. cheers! mike

[Saturnine]

Ill PM you later today or something sir!!

[Jet Jockey]

OK, lets clarify a few more things here.

The articulated snorkel can be used in its entirety or split at its articulating point to use only a portion of it. According to Carbonio the difference in gain between the short and long version is very minimal in performance. They basically wanted people to have a much greater choice in air flow adjustments. Even with the longer tube in, you are nowhere near the fog light assembly. So no interference for a dual set up and not even a hint of water ingestion problem. With the short version the duct is located right at the back of the headlight housing pointing down. This area is totally free of airflow from the engine bay. After lots of testing with several duct configurations in that area they found not much to be gained.

Now in regards to the heat shield, the small stock steel galvanized init is replaced by a much larger aluminium one that goes all the way down to the frame and then reaches higher. It is then covered with a self adhesive type tape which sandwiches ceramic material and is covered on the turbo side by a shiny aluminium type reflective finish. This alone is good is reflecting up to 90% of the heat.