stage 2 supporting mods.

[notob6]

I just got revo stage 1 from renn-art and a borla exhaust so i was thinking about going to stage 2. I'm really confused about what i actually need to go stage 2. in the pamphlet thing it says i need a 4 bar fpr and an exhaust and high flow cat or testpipe. i thought our car's dont have fuel pressure regulators... Also i thought that there were people running K04's and even BT with the regular cat's. so can i just go ahead and get revo stage 2????

it seems as if every where i look there is a different list of supporting mods.

[vdubstreets]

stage 2 is k04 and stage 2+ is ko4 with mods

if you want to go k04, you need injectors, and FMIC for starters. Then other things hep. stage 3 is bigger turbo. look at the top of the b6 a4 page.

[C Note]

stage 2 is k04 and stage 2+ is ko4 with mods

if you want to go k04, you need injectors, and FMIC for starters. Then other things hep. stage 3 is bigger turbo. look at the top of the b6 a4 page.

Correction:

Stage 2 for Revo is the Big Injector flash. There is no Stage 2+ for Revo. To go Stage 2, you do not need an FPR since our cars have an returnless fuel system. You, however, do need 380cc or 386cc injectors and it is recommended that you get a test pipe and intercooler, but is not required.

[mxrz]

if you want to go k04, you need injectors, and FMIC for starters.

Not really, FMIC is not "needed".

[d_maniac]

so with revo you run a ko4 with same k03 software???

[vdubstreets]

correction: according to the noob file at the top.
Stage 1 = chip
Stage 1+ = chip+ any other mods without a turbo upgrade
Stage 2 = K04
Stage 2+ = K04 with other mods
Stage 3 = BT at 270-350 chp
Stage 3+ = BT at 350-400 chp
Stage 4 = internal/head work making 400-500 chp
Stage 5 = Stand alone or making 500+ chp

it looks like some audi tt injectors are 386cc, i think thats what i have

allthough the FMIC is not needed... its more like saying we don't need doors persay but they do help out alot.

[doublezero30]

vdub, yes thats true. but revo calls their big injector file stage two. people on this forum still like to call it 1+, i stick with stage 2 cause it sounds better. lol

anyway, the REQUIREMENTS for revo stage two are injectors, DV, and exhaust with test pipe. i got stage two before i had exhuast/TP (although revo/the tuner highly recommended that i dont do that) and it didnt even feel much faster. when i got it on my car it opened up amazingly. they also recommend an FMIC if you live in a hot climate. i dont really live in a hot climate but in the summer the temp gets up there, so i installed a racetec fmic yesterday. it feels a little better and deffinatly seems smoother. so if youre going stage two, screw an intercooler at first...deffinatly go with exhuast before hand. need to get rid of the extra air before u take in even more ya know?

[Papachristou]

double zero is right... i have even seen people's sig's say revo 1+, but its actually stage II and i think it sounds better ! 1+ sounds weak lol!

i think REVo recommends FMIC/DSMIC, DV, cat back exhaust

they require a TP per their website...

many people here have had revo dealers refuse to flash them without a TP, and some like mine wouldnt flash without a TP, DV, exhaust and FMIC/DSMIC.. hence the reason for me getting APR 1+, even though i will get a FMIC later... i actually decided on APR because of the BT program...


its very important to reason this through too because when a company puts all the R&D they do into these programs, their recommendations should be taken seriously in my opinion... my TP stayed almost the same factory color for a month, after my flash in one day of hard driving it was purple and blue all over from the added EGTs from higher boost... this is why the TP should and is required... the other stuff i will add just not immediatly and its cooling down now so it'll be aight for now!

[C Note]

correction: according to the noob file at the top.
Stage 1 = chip
Stage 1+ = chip+ any other mods without a turbo upgrade
Stage 2 = K04
Stage 2+ = K04 with other mods
Stage 3 = BT at 270-350 chp
Stage 3+ = BT at 350-400 chp
Stage 4 = internal/head work making 400-500 chp
Stage 5 = Stand alone or making 500+ chp

it looks like some audi tt injectors are 386cc, i think thats what i have

allthough the FMIC is not needed... its more like saying we don't need doors persay but they do help out alot.

The only thing is that Revo doesnt have a Stage 2+ nor 4 or 5. Their flashes are very basic and simple (which is why most people rather go with APR or GIAC) They have their regular flash, then Big Injector file flash, then BT flash. I dont think Revo supports a K04 flash at all.

And yes the Bosch TT225 injectors are 386cc or you can run Genesis TT225 injectors and I think those are 380cc.

[d_maniac]

so no one runs a k04 with revo software??

[Papachristou]

they have a modified stage II flash but its not specifically designed for the k04... i dont think anyone uses it that ive heard, some people have looked into it before going with MTM, APR or GIAC

[LampyB]

omg someone needs to SEARCH for the answer...this REVO Stage 2 topic has been discussed a million times.

Revo Stage 2 is the same as APR/Giac 1+, except Revo recommends an upgraded IC, Test Pipe, and Exhaust. You don't need to have all of these, but your tuner will tweak the software each time you add a supporting mod and you'll see more and more power as you do this.

To go Revo Stage 2 you just need bigger injectors and they highly recommend a test pipe.

LampyB.

[DELUX]

Not really, FMIC is not "needed".

I disagree. You should definitely have a FMIC or at least a DSMIC upgrade before you upgrade to a K04.

[Papachristou]

this highly recommended battle is getting old... about half say you dont need it, the rest say the recommendation is in place for a reason...

just think...audi recommends 91+ octane for a reason right? so same thing with tuners...

[jessefrank]

I just got REVO stage 2 last Thursday.
From the list the tuner had direct from REVO...
Required items for the B6 A4 is: 380cc/386cc injectors, DV, TP/high-flow cat and full exhaust
Recomended items I beleive are: intake, FMIC/DSMIC

Now, I got stage 2 flashed with only a DV, injectors and intake.
They had to tweak the settings (de-tune it) mainly due to not having a TP/HFC and exhaust. They stated that if left at the REVO settings for stage 2 without the above items my car is missing...it creates too much back pressure on the turbine and could gerande the turbo. They set my timing at 3 and boost at 5...which is what I believe REVO recomends for cars that don't have all their required mods.

You can get REVO stage 2 with only injectors on a completely stock car, now it won't see as much gains as a car with all the mods on their required/recommended list and the DV is pretty much a required item as the stock one goes bad on the stock cars all the time.

[HeymyAudi]

I just got REVO stage 2 last Thursday.
From the list the tuner had direct from REVO...
Required items for the B6 A4 is: 380cc/386cc injectors, DV, TP/high-flow cat and full exhaust
Recomended items I beleive are: intake, FMIC/DSMIC

Now, I got stage 2 flashed with only a DV, injectors and intake.
They had to tweak the settings (de-tune it) mainly due to not having a TP/HFC and exhaust. They stated that if left at the REVO settings for stage 2 without the above items my car is missing...it creates too much back pressure on the turbine and could gerande the turbo. They set my timing at 3 and boost at 5...which is what I believe REVO recomends for cars that don't have all their required mods.

You can get REVO stage 2 with only injectors on a completely stock car, now it won't see as much gains as a car with all the mods on their required/recommended list and the DV is pretty much a required item as the stock one goes bad on the stock cars all the time.

Correct if you dont have the supporting mods they will take off a bit of timing and de-tune it in order for you not to blow up your car.

[PaperishPlastic]

I just got REVO stage 2 last Thursday.
From the list the tuner had direct from REVO...
Required items for the B6 A4 is: 380cc/386cc injectors, DV, TP/high-flow cat and full exhaust
Recomended items I beleive are: intake, FMIC/DSMIC

Now, I got stage 2 flashed with only a DV, injectors and intake.
They had to tweak the settings (de-tune it) mainly due to not having a TP/HFC and exhaust. They stated that if left at the REVO settings for stage 2 without the above items my car is missing...it creates too much back pressure on the turbine and could gerande the turbo. They set my timing at 3 and boost at 5...which is what I believe REVO recomends for cars that don't have all their required mods.

You can get REVO stage 2 with only injectors on a completely stock car, now it won't see as much gains as a car with all the mods on their required/recommended list and the DV is pretty much a required item as the stock one goes bad on the stock cars all the time.

That is all correct besides the exhaust part. It is not really needed(it helps) for stage 2 software. The CAT is a much bigger bottleneck then the stock exhaust.

[initiala4]

I would recommend an intercooler if you want to go up to KO4. Another thing would be clutch as well.

[DELUX]

You CAN run a k04 without an upgraded intercooler. Just expect pinging under full boost.

[doublezero30]

That is all correct besides the exhaust part. It is not really needed(it helps) for stage 2 software. The CAT is a much bigger bottleneck then the stock exhaust.

i agree to a point. yes the cat is deffinatly very restictive...but dude, have you seen those stock pipes??? theyre like 1.5"....they deffinatly dont belong on a car w/ a turbo!! got to get that air out fast! im sure a TP with stock pipes will be better, but i would have to imagine (since i dont know for a fact) that it is no where near optimal.