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    Veteran Member Four Rings hyperspeed's Avatar
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    goin with custom magnaflow exhaust...questions..

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    here are my plans..

    get ecode testpipe

    custom downpipe 2.5"

    3" piping w/o resonators

    2.5" piping to the mufflers

    and magnaflow muffler #14851

    BUT my question is.. the specs on the 14851 are:
    2.25" Inlet, 4" Diam. Tip
    2.5" Internal Race Core
    Double Wall, Angle Cut
    7" Tip Length
    14" Muffler Body Length

    if the inlet is 2.25 on the muffler is that bad? or should i find a magnalflow muffler that has a 2.5 inlet? i found one that has a 3" inlet.. and ive also thought about 3" piping all the way through. might be too loud but EH WHO CARES. hahah. dunno if ill lose too much low end torque though.

    anyways bottom line.. would it be preferable to use the muffler with a 2.25 inlet or a 3" inlet for 2.5 piping? or would it be better to go straight 3" piping all the way? or 2.25 piping up to the mufflers?

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    3" anything is going to suck unless you have a stg 3 kit or something.. All you need is 2.5" piping..

    Mines all 2.5, and then goes down to 2.25 right at the end into the mufflers..
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    ok cool beans.. do u think the muffler shop will do mandrel bends for me? or will that cost too much? and whats the difference between mandrel n crush bends anyways? is there much benefit to mandrel on street cars?

    also do u think they'll be able to make me a custom DP? if not do u know where i can pick up only a DP?


    also one last thing..the thermal exhaust is 3" mid section piping up to the resonators which splits into 2.25 pipng.. thats where i got the idea to go with 3" midpipe...do u still think its a bad idea john?

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    Originally posted by hyperspeed
    ok cool beans.. do u think the muffler shop will do mandrel bends for me? or will that cost too much? and whats the difference between mandrel n crush bends anyways? is there much benefit to mandrel on street cars?

    also do u think they'll be able to make me a custom DP? if not do u know where i can pick up only a DP?


    also one last thing..the thermal exhaust is 3" mid section piping up to the resonators which splits into 2.25 pipng.. thats where i got the idea to go with 3" midpipe...do u still think its a bad idea john?
    A 3" midpipe would be fine, it won't be crazy loud and you'll get more performance as well. I'd just get a thermal street or race version from David at Ecode. They don't have one for the FWD yet so Chuck at Thermal made me a custom setup. He used the S4 mufflers, looks awesome sounds great, I'm gonna do a writeup very soon.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings hyperspeed's Avatar
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    ok so i guess im going with 3" midpipe... and 2.25 piping after Y pipe to the mufflers.

    thermal exhausts and other prebuilt ones are too expensive for me =X i wish i could afford it.. but i have to save up..



    hey drew can i hit u up when i want my test pipe in? ill have some other questions as well haha...

    just gotta make sure im doin thngs right before i do them
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    oh btw sat.. do u have resonators in ur piping? did u keep ur stock resonators? or did u pipe them out?

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    Originally posted by hyperspeed
    ok so i guess im going with 3" midpipe... and 2.25 piping after Y pipe to the mufflers.

    thermal exhausts and other prebuilt ones are too expensive for me =X i wish i could afford it.. but i have to save up..



    hey drew can i hit u up when i want my test pipe in? ill have some other questions as well haha...

    just gotta make sure im doin thngs right before i do them
    Anytime buddy, just let me know.

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    Here's what i have:

    Miltek DP 2.5"
    Glasspack 2.5"
    and then the 2 rear MF mufflers that have 2.25" inlets.

    Thats it.
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    wats the glasspack 2.5?

    is that just the brand of piping?

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    Originally posted by hyperspeed
    wats the glasspack 2.5?

    is that just the brand of piping?
    glass pack works like a resonator but less restrictive. Its used on a lot of muscle cars and mustangs.

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    Yea, they're about 50-70 bucks..
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    aside from noise is there a benefit to having resonators? can i just pipe them out?

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    I thought my car sounded like crap w/ just the rear mufflers.
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    what do you mean by "crap"

    too loud or bad quality of sound....??

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    Ehh... I thought it was to loud (more so cuz i have an avant) and it was to raspy for my tastes.
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    how does your car sound compared to a millitek exhaust?

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    Well, they are both quiet but the miltek has that "bassy" tone to it that mine doesnt have.
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    so the only problem is that its too loud? hmm

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    I have magnaflow mufflers, all I did was run 2inch piping from the resonator to the muffler and the performance is great. I have apr stage1 ,so it improved the low end and top end and car also runs smoother. As for sound, It has like a low deep tone to it. like a bassy tone in low rpms but on high rpms its quiet almost like stock. So saturine, with muffler only you had a raspy sound no low tone? I was going with borla mufflers but someone told me they would be more raspy then the magnaflows? Have yo heard the borlas?

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    In the cabin the low tone or bassy tone is very noticable at low rpms. Since I have a intake the boosted tech cai, that can get pretty loud at wot to. My friend took a ride with me and said it has a low tone in the cabin from outsid its not loud but can heard when I step on it. I notice it more loud inside the cabin then outside. I will have to have someone drive it , so I can see how it really sounds,but otherwise the tone is pretty low,
    Saturine how did sound with just mufflers compared to now?

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    i think im gunna try with no resonators and see if i like it or not

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    hyperspeed.
    I just did it without resonators, the ride isnt that loud.
    I will try to see if I can get a sound clip.

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    Please someone post a sound clip!!! Alot of people are in hyperspeed's same shoes, we dont have $800-900 to spend on an exhaust so the next best thing is get a custom one. Ive been thinking about getting one but Ive never heard one before. Dont want it sounding riceish either. It will be greatly appreciated
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    Is the sound different without the resonators, besides being louder?

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    Yea, it prolly wont sound that crappy if you ran with out resonators.. The sedan is just a quieter car on the inside, alot more so than the avant..
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    So just with the mufflers it sounded raspy? the ones I have sound pretty low in cabin which is nice hardly noticable outside.

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    I have Milltek 2.5" downpipe into 2.5" piping .. then a Y split into 2.25" piping into 2 magnaflow resonators that are 2.25" in and out ...

    then goes into 2.25" inlet of the mufflers to 4" tip

    the sound is definitely on par with Milltek sound level wise ... the milltek has a tad bit more bassy drone to it ;) and mind you ... the kind of drone that the milltek setup and my magnaflow setup isnt really drone ... but its a beautiful sound ;)

    i really like the magnaflow setup more and more ... and for a lot cheaper than the milltek

    of course the milltek has the most beautiful sound though
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    so you had a milltek exhaust on you car bugzy? So the milltek has a better sound. To install did you have to use any parts from the stock system or that whole thing comes out and milltek system has everything you need to install?

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    Milltek is great! But at higher RPM's the sound gets less noticeable. I wish the sound ran all the way through 0-7000rpms (or wherever we redline at). A non-res exhaust system on a 4 banger probably wouldn't give off the desired sound. It might sound like your typical low-budget honda civic setup more than anything. I've read in the AW S4 forums that people w/ Millteks have done that and it sounds really nice w/ the V8. There's a sound clip of it floating around in there somewhere.
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    does the milltek replace the whole stock exhaust system or is there some pieces that you still use? As for sound , does it have a deep tone similar to like thermal? Is it noticable in cabin at low rpms? Iam want to know how it sound?

    thanks

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    Milltek replaces everything from behind the catalytic converter. I haven't heard Thermal but the tone is deep. I heard there's alot of drone in the cabin w/ thermal, but with milltek you can only here the drone if your windows are open and your music is off. The sound is great when you're outside of the car, when you're inside, it sounds stock.
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    Originally posted by imajn34
    I heard there's alot of drone in the cabin w/ thermal, but with milltek you can only here the drone if your windows are open and your music is off. The sound is great when you're outside of the car, when you're inside, it sounds stock.
    thats exactly what i want...

    ive heard the miltek and mang.. it really is very nice...

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    Does the sound remind you of a certain car? Iam trying to found out how it sounds, Its hard to fine any sound clips of a milltek.
    Stramosphere has a sound clip but its for the older A4, does it sound smilar? I was told it sounds like a stock porshe boxter? But I have a feeling it doesnt. I know its hard to describe the sound but if you can that would be great. Iam debating on getting a milltek system if its worth it!

    thanks

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    If you want performance and have Quattro, go Thermal Race, if you care about attracting cops then go with MTM or Milltek. At first I cared about being too loud and attracting cops but I honestly don't care anymore because having a nice sounding exhaust that just lets people know your presence. With Milltek if you have all the windows up and you're playing your music at a moderate level, you can't hear anything, and from the outside it's loud enough for people to notice but the louder the exhaust the more your engine is breathing and the more power you're making.
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    Does Magnaflow makes an exhaut whith double tip's
    i can use in a kerscher???

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    if anyone is in the socal area and has the custom exhaust with magnaflow mufflers please lemme know...

    id be interested in putting together a little GTG so we can hear it in person...

    ill bring my camera and we can take vids so people can see AND HEAR what they sound like...

    so far i think ive only heard of bugzy and saturnine that have the custom setup...

    saturnine, iirc, is in norcal...so that wont work...

    but bugzy is in socal right?

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    Im gonna be at the BBQ on the 7th
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    Originally posted by giago
    Does Magnaflow makes an exhaut whith double tip's
    i can use in a kerscher???
    yeah they do just go browse their website

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    oh yeah dont forget ...titan as well as another guy that IMed me has it also

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    well the thing is...

    me and jeff are down in socal...

    sat is in palo alto and titan is in hawaii...

    unless i can get some soundclips from those two... i dont think ill be able to meet up with them.

    i havnt heard from bugzy though... hes supposed to be down here in socal...

    titan has been saying that the magnaflows arent even on par with the milltek sound though...

    sat? what are your thoughts... i forget ... did you have sound clips of your car?

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