If this is true, it changes every thing. NUKES IN IRAQ

[Ryan S.]

q

[Kirath]

It aint true (heard that story was already debunked) and it does'nt change a damn thing......

[Ryan S.]

Originally posted by Kirath
It aint true (heard that story was already debunked) and it does'nt change a damn thing......

where can i find out that it isnt true?

[Ryan S.]

Originally posted by Kirath
It aint true (heard that story was already debunked) and it does'nt change a damn thing......

and if nukes were found in iraq, it would change every thing. if you cant see that, then your very, very blind.

[Ryan S.]

wowzer, the washington times web site just changed the link. haha.

[jpsimon]

lol owned

[Ryan S.]

Originally posted by jpsimon
lol owned

definitely owned lol. it makes you wonder why they posted the original one.

[jpsimon]

woo hooo cause the media ROCKS!!

[Anthony]

Interesting...

[Ryan S.]

Originally posted by Anthony
Interesting...

yes, verdy verdy , interesting.

[voodooA4]

google news is your friend:

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-break...1009-2541r.htm
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackage...6&section=news
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3872201.stm

[I am armed]

Weak. More bullshit fed through by Bush's mediocre agencies....

[jpsimon]

and then taken down because its bs. good times.

[EVIL-AUDI]

Originally posted by jpsimon
and then taken down because its bs. good times.

you like what I sent you eh?

[jpsimon]

of course

[/\G]

The report, picked up the United Press International news agency, sent the U.S. dollar higher against other major currencies on the foreign exchanges

GOD DAMN!!!! We would of cleaned up on german ebay

[Kirath]

Sorry Frank S - but my TV is off and my eye's are wide open.. Most definetly not blind....................

[JMG]

True or not it doesn't change the fact that we have to now finish what we started in an honorable fashion as to not create a new generation of Iraquis that pledge their hatred for the American oppressors.

[Anthony]

Originally posted by JMG
True or not it doesn't change the fact that we have to now finish what we started in an honorable fashion as to not create a new generation of Iraquis that pledge their hatred for the American oppressors.

I think it's far too late for that... But yes, we should definitely do our best to leave the Iraqis with as safe and secure a home as we can. No easy feat on any level.

[dukez]

Well when the IRaqis stop hating us, thats just 1 down, out of (i duno lets say) 100.

Should the US start invading everyone else well?
First for weapons, then for their freedom, and then finally for any resource their land can provide.

**This post is sarcasm you jerks. Dont make this another 5 page politcal debating flame thread. Let it go. Go outside and play.

[Ryan S.]

Originally posted by Kirath
Sorry Frank S - but my TV is off and my eye's are wide open.. Most definetly not blind....................

how could it not change things? i know this is all hypothetical, butttt, saddam is the last person, besides osama, that youd want to have nukes. hes all ready proven hes more then capable of pulling the trigger, thus he would be a huge threat if he had nukes. but hell, if he really did have em, he would of probably used em moments before he was captured.

please open my eyes a little and tell me how a saddam with nukes is not a threat?

[Ryan S.]

Originally posted by dukez
. Go outside and play. [/B]

best advice ever!

[/\G]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83821,00.html

and when Georgie reveals that he has Osama, Mr. Kerry and his Al Sharpton loving wife are all through

[Ryan S.]

Originally posted by /\G
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83821,00.html

and when Georgie reveals that he has Osama, Mr. Kerry and his Al Sharpton loving wife are all through

look at the date on that though. i think thats old, and proven false
.

[/\G]

sorry, I thought it was the one. bad search engine, bad!

[JMG]

Originally posted by /\G
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83821,00.html

and when Georgie reveals that he has Osama, Mr. Kerry and his Al Sharpton loving wife are all through

holy crap. Alot of people's views might possibly change dramatically over the next few days. How convenient for Bush. I wonder if water runs deep enough to spawn news fabrications. Makes you think.

[/\G]

here is another one...

http://interestalert.com/brand/sitei...r=World%20News

[Ryan S.]

Originally posted by /\G
here is another one...

http://interestalert.com/brand/sitei...r=World%20News

ya, thats what i originally posted. and mine was even from the washington times. But, like 5 seconds after i posted it, they put this new article up.

STUPID MEDIA

[Ryan S.]

heres what they replaced it with.

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-break...1009-2541r.htm

[DDQ]

Just vote Bush. 'nuff said.

[jpsimon]

or do the right thing and dont vote bush.

you know.

[chrisrunner]

george will bust out osama before the election...but he better do it soon though because the american public might be keen to an attempt to use that as a political sling shot which would not be a good idea, i for one believe that g.w. could pull out proof of christ himself and i still wouldnt vote him into office, i mean come on, we didn't even vote him in the first time...and theres proof of that. if i want news, ill get it from the bbc because american news organizations do not show us what the reality of this war is...fox news fair and balanced?
the real man running the show is not bush, its cheney, and thats even more deadly.
i liked bill clinton for one reason and one reason only, when i watched him speak, i knew he was in charge and everything went from him down...when i see bush talk, i see a man who has little power in his own administration...

chris.
and yes i will be in boston next week working at the DNC.

[shehatezme]

Originally posted by chrisrunner
george will bust out osama before the election...but he better do it soon though because the american public might be keen to an attempt to use that as a political sling shot which would not be a good idea, i for one believe that g.w. could pull out proof of christ himself and i still wouldnt vote him into office, i mean come on, we didn't even vote him in the first time...and theres proof of that. if i want news, ill get it from the bbc because american news organizations do not show us what the reality of this war is...fox news fair and balanced?
the real man running the show is not bush, its cheney, and thats even more deadly.
i liked bill clinton for one reason and one reason only, when i watched him speak, i knew he was in charge and everything went from him down...when i see bush talk, i see a man who has little power in his own administration...

chris.
and yes i will be in boston next week working at the DNC.

I couldn't have said this any better. Vote no for Bush. Me and some friends were actually beting that Bush will bust out Osama right before the election to get votes. Honestly though, who the heck would be dumb enough to vote for him.

[DDQ]

1) Clinton was a great speaker. That does not make him a great leader. In fact, he will go down in history as one of the weakest leaders this country ever saw. He was more at fault for 9/11 than anyone else (granted, the fault cannot be placed on one man). His policies are also to blame for the overheating of the economy which subsequently lead to the recession and crash of the stock market (which liberals tried to pawn off on Bush, all while the economy crashed before he was elected). Democrats are anti-capitalists. If anyone does not agree with this, it's not up for argument. It's clear fact, which decomratic economic advisors will admit to. If Kerry is elected, the stock market will suffer, and the recovering economy will be de-railed due to the democratic socialistic policy.

2) The BBC and and the majority of all foreign media is liberal. As is our own television media, and many papers. The NY Times is the biggest liberal publication out there. If you truly want to be educated on these issues, I strongly suggest you all turn off CNN and stop reading the liberal propoganda, and stop watching stupid films by some fat guy that is a blatent self-promoter. Instead, do your homework. It's easy to be a hater during these times, since so much has gone wrong. That does not mean the alternative will equate to improvement. Think about it. Stop falling for the propaganda.

3) Kerry will not win. The media would like us to all believe this is a close race, and that it's very controversial (if they didn't present it that way, none of would be watching, or even talking about this right now). But the American voice is not heard on the evening news. It's heard at the ballot box. And as of today, Bush will win 45 out of the 50 states. Guess what? The vast majority of America agrees with Bush and what he's doing. But, you'll hear some bullshit poll everyday that is data-mined some numbers after interviewing 50 people that seems to indicated that Bush is "slipping".


So, instead of all the bitching and moaning and complaining, the democratic supporters need to show proof of policy that would improve on anything. Hell, if anyone could do a better job than Bush, I'd line up to vote for them. But you know what? There's no one better for the job right now. Instead, the democrats have no policy, they have nothing. All they have is information trying to show that the existent methods are faulty. Well, until you show us a better way, you will not run our country.

[dukez]

C'mon guys, November isnt that far away. All you clowns in these political debates better vote. But after the election results, someone is gonna get owned bigtime.

[chrisrunner]

the fact that we went into iraq on a pre-emptive strike for the reason os "WMD's"s is reason enough for me to vote against him...there is proof and was proof then that saddam's army was weak and actually didn't even have the power to attack kuwait again...in 2001 mrs. rice and mr. powell said that saddam had no way of getting weapons of mass destruction, but suddenly a year later, he has them? well we haven't found any, and we won't. all the proof and evidence says there is/was no link between osama and saddam, but bush and cheney still continue to say theres a link between al quaeda and iraq..i know what the link is...the letter Q....al Quaeda, and iraQ...

the fact that 1000 troops have died because w. wanted to finish what his daddy started is appalling..the fact that bush stated hes not worried about osama anymore in public is awful! if bush would just admit that he wanted to get saddam for his own personal reasons, id trust him just a bit more...

as far as the economy right now..its a jobless recovery...i know a ton of college kids up here in the northeast that cant get summer jobs, and a ton recent grads who cant get a job at all either....clinton rode the wave of the dot coms and it treated him well...but clinton beat the republicans at their own game...he succeeded in getting out of a trial that was subjected by the opposing party and ultimately judged by the opposing party....they wanted to impeach the man because of an affair that kenneth starr made so public? please. if you wanna talk about rediculous, dont even get me started about that.
bush is not the man i chose as a leader...none of us did...gore won florida, no matter how many recounts there are, gore will always be the victor...i think gore is a robot, but hes the lesser of two evils..

chris.
ps...you wanna talk about what saddam did to the kurds and his own people as president...go find out who put him in power...and go find out who helped put the taliban in power, also check and see who trained osama and where his weapons came from...

[DDQ]

Sounds like someone just watched F9/11.

I agree with dukez.

Everytime one of these threads shows up, I tell myself to click past it. But for some reason I just can't help myself when I see all the misinformed posts.

I guess all we can do is vote, and make sure we're Amercians first, and partisan second. Granted, living in MA (although I'm from NY) and NH is a lost cause, given the liberal presence, but that will not deter me from voting.

I need to avoid these threads in the future. Let's all post again after the election, and then we can hear more conspiracy theories from the left wing about how Bush somehow rigged the election.

All in good fun. I do not hate on anyone for disagreeing, it's just that I spend a lot of time researching and educating myself on these issues, so I get a little fired up about it.

[shehatezme]

lol... no come back? chrisrunner has very good points.

[DDQ]

Originally posted by shehatezme
lol... no come back? chrisrunner has very good points.

Please don't mistake my silence as defeat. If you want to read my "comebacks" then search the archives. I'm just recognizing the fact that none of us will change each other's minds on a car forum. It's great to opinionated, but just make sure you can support your opinions with unbiased facts. Most are subconciously misguided by the media, which is evident in some of the posts I've seen here and what they percieve as truth. If anyone watched Michael Moore's movie, and walked out thinking "wow, that was really interesting, I can't believe that's all true!", then you have just proven that you are ill-informed. Don't listen to me, rather go out and find out the facts, educate yourself, and then decide what you really think. Don't listen to someone that leads to believe the conspiracy theory, or someone that is making money off of you.

We can spit out rhetoric all day, and it will get us no where.

[Ryan S.]

Originally posted by DDQ
1) Clinton was a great speaker. That does not make him a great leader. In fact, he will go down in history as one of the weakest leaders this country ever saw. He was more at fault for 9/11 than anyone else (granted, the fault cannot be placed on one man). His policies are also to blame for the overheating of the economy which subsequently lead to the recession and crash of the stock market (which liberals tried to pawn off on Bush, all while the economy crashed before he was elected). Democrats are anti-capitalists. If anyone does not agree with this, it's not up for argument. It's clear fact, which decomratic economic advisors will admit to. If Kerry is elected, the stock market will suffer, and the recovering economy will be de-railed due to the democratic socialistic policy.

2) The BBC and and the majority of all foreign media is liberal. As is our own television media, and many papers. The NY Times is the biggest liberal publication out there. If you truly want to be educated on these issues, I strongly suggest you all turn off CNN and stop reading the liberal propoganda, and stop watching stupid films by some fat guy that is a blatent self-promoter. Instead, do your homework. It's easy to be a hater during these times, since so much has gone wrong. That does not mean the alternative will equate to improvement. Think about it. Stop falling for the propaganda.

3) Kerry will not win. The media would like us to all believe this is a close race, and that it's very controversial (if they didn't present it that way, none of would be watching, or even talking about this right now). But the American voice is not heard on the evening news. It's heard at the ballot box. And as of today, Bush will win 45 out of the 50 states. Guess what? The vast majority of America agrees with Bush and what he's doing. But, you'll hear some bullshit poll everyday that is data-mined some numbers after interviewing 50 people that seems to indicated that Bush is "slipping".


So, instead of all the bitching and moaning and complaining, the democratic supporters need to show proof of policy that would improve on anything. Hell, if anyone could do a better job than Bush, I'd line up to vote for them. But you know what? There's no one better for the job right now. Instead, the democrats have no policy, they have nothing. All they have is information trying to show that the existent methods are faulty. Well, until you show us a better way, you will not run our country.

very, very, very, well said. DOUBLE HIGH FIVE BROTHA!. that post was music to my ears. If Mozart was a post on AZ, this post would be it.