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    Senior Member Two Rings
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    hard to believe 3mm makes that much difference

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    But it does. Car has a LOT less body roll now compared to stock sport. Maybe the metal end links helped some too. Sorry for the crappy pic.
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    Registered Member Four Rings jesseahhstyle's Avatar
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    Cant wait to get more $$ to focus some attention towards the suspension! Are you on stock sport suspension except for the sway?

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    Registered Member Four Rings Zodiak's Avatar
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    ha, I'm doing the exact same install tomorrow (on stock sport). The stock plastic endlinks are such crap...CPPs are so nice can't wait to throw it all in.

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    Senior Member Two Rings
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    Originally posted by jesseahhstyle
    Cant wait to get more $$ to focus some attention towards the suspension! Are you on stock sport suspension except for the sway?
    Yep. That's why I'm so surprised at the difference. It feels much more planted now.

    Originally posted by Zodiak
    ha, I'm doing the exact same install tomorrow (on stock sport). The stock plastic endlinks are such crap...CPPs are so nice can't wait to throw it all in.
    Yeah, I think the plastic end links must cause extra slop. I got the stock Audi metal ones to replace them. I wasn't going to at first but then one of the bolts was so corroded I had to use grip pliers to get it off and tore it up. I'm glad I did. The metal ones also allow for more clearance for the driveshaft than the plastic ones.
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    Registered Member Four Rings Zodiak's Avatar
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    yeah the previous owner of mine stripped the end of on of the bolts so the allen key wouldn't stay. I ended of grabbing my dremel and cutting the bolt right off. How much were the endlinks from audi?

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    Senior Member Two Rings
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    I got them from ECS for $70.
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    Registered Member Four Rings Zodiak's Avatar
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    nice, I don't know why they used plastic in the first place...

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Burntaudi's Avatar
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    It really has nothing to do with the end links. I did the same sway bar on my ride like a year ago. My car had the metal endlinks already and I noticed a hugh differance in handeling with same end links.

    It just depends on the year of your car weather you have the plastic or metal endlinks.

    The problem with the plastic ones is they break with a thicker swaybar.
    Alex

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    Current ride 03 Tahoe Z71

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    Account Terminated Four Rings MR VTEC's Avatar
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    do the h&r sway and neuspeed sway come with metal end links or do you have to use the stick ones

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    Registered Member Four Rings Zodiak's Avatar
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    Neither comes with endlinks

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    thanks
    must be bought seperastely

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    Senior Member Two Rings
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    Yup. The Neuspeed doesn't include end links but it comes with a triangulated support bracket for the subframe.
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    Senior Member Two Rings
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    Here's pics of the subframe bracket and metal end link.

    2001 A4 1.8TQMS - SOLD
    Mods: APR 93 octane, Milltek Catback, 710N, V&S SS, RS4 grill, RS4 reps, Sport Seats, AWE DTS, Neuspeed 19mm w/ metal end links, S4 wheel liners, PureMS Strut Bar
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    Registered Member Four Rings jesseahhstyle's Avatar
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    I think on my car '97 they came with metal. Im not understanding where this plastic ones were? Can you circle them in your pics?

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    Senior Member Two Rings
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    These pics don't show the plastic one, they show the metal one. In both pics it's the skinny round bar that bends around the driveshaft at the bottom and then connect to the sway bar. The plastic one is almost the same but, being that it's plastic, is thicker and has additional reinforcement, especially at the bend.
    2001 A4 1.8TQMS - SOLD
    Mods: APR 93 octane, Milltek Catback, 710N, V&S SS, RS4 grill, RS4 reps, Sport Seats, AWE DTS, Neuspeed 19mm w/ metal end links, S4 wheel liners, PureMS Strut Bar
    Convenience: "one touch up" rear window mod, PhatBox

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    Veteran Member Four Rings littlewhite's Avatar
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    Yea, it sure did on mine too~
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