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    Registered Member Three Rings HICK's Avatar
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    NOT SURE YET!!!! Giac or Revo. It is killing me trying to decide. Talked to AWE and Talked to Eurocode. Not sure man!!!Any persuasive suggestions or peer pressure?

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    i keep hearing good things bout REVO
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Mark's Avatar
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    I had AWE pop a GIAC chip on mine at first, worked great. Great customer service as well!
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    Registered Member Three Rings
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    i just got GIAC. very satisfied

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    Registered Member Four Rings G_A4's Avatar
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    i'm in the same boat. GIAC or REVO. hear good stuff about both companies. still waiting on the REVO software for the B6 04 version. then i'll make my decision. it's going to be a tough one for sure.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings teutonic_blur's Avatar
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    Re: shipping my ecu out to...

    Originally posted by HICK
    NOT SURE YET!!!! Giac or Revo. It is killing me trying to decide. Talked to AWE and Talked to Eurocode. Not sure man!!!Any persuasive suggestions or peer pressure?
    I am very happy with the power, smoothness and trouble-free performance of my Revo software...However, I've always thought that having local support is VERY important so I recommend that you go with whomever has local support.

    But in your case I guess local support is out of the question since your car is USA spec? That's why you have to ship it instead of having the ecu reprogrammed via the obdII port? Revo has a couple of dealers in Holland, I don't know how close to Holland you are.

    So my humble advise is: if you can get us spec code close (or relatively close) go get Revoed there.

    If you have to ship your ECU to the states the issue of local support is irrelevant so get Revo anyway!
    Last edited by teutonic_blur; 06-30-2004 at 12:51 PM.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings DLSJ5's Avatar
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    Re: shipping my ecu out to...

    Originally posted by HICK
    NOT SURE YET!!!! Giac or Revo. It is killing me trying to decide. Talked to AWE and Talked to Eurocode. Not sure man!!!Any persuasive suggestions or peer pressure?
    I can tell you with the Revo my FWD A4 is a beast. Derrick, Villians, with his Revo Quattro A4 ran Alex's, BBaudi's GIAC FWD A4 and they were dead even. My FWD against any Quattro running any chip and I'm at least 3 car lengths off the line up to 100MPH, side by side, I pull even harder. Took a GIAC chipped Allroad as well. My only experience w/ GIAC was w/ my T28, and the car detonated pretty bad, never ran right either. Silence's T28 W/Revo big turbo software is a beast, he was dead even w/ a convertable E46 M3!! Villians has had both chips, so he might be a better judge, I'm sure he'll chime in here. Good luck!

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Villains's Avatar
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    REVO! No if's, and's, or but's! I had both and the REVO was just a better chip overall. Made a ton of power without any detontaion or hesitation.

    Here is my little comparo:

    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...&threadid=9469
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    why DIDNT you like the GIAC?

    i was so ready to go check out GIAC tonite... but then now you're telling me go with REVO...
    ARGH!!!

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Villains's Avatar
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    Originally posted by fongaroos
    why DIDNT you like the GIAC?

    i was so ready to go check out GIAC tonite... but then now you're telling me go with REVO...
    ARGH!!!
    The few (and there were only a few) things I didn't like were that on a hot day there would be detonation. The only way to even notice it was with a VAG-COM. This can be a huge problem if it continues. This was with my Dual Intercoolers so with just the stock one, it would be worse. GIAC is too aggressive with their timing so detonation can always be a problem. Plus the GIAC is not as flexible as REVO. With REVO, you can get the SPS3 and make changes to a lot of parameters. Which to me is very important.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Villains's Avatar
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    fongaroos,

    Since you are local you should definitely get REVO because we can help you get the most out of the tune with the SPS3. Plus David at EuroCode can be a great asset for tuning.
    -Derrick

    It will be nice working with proper villains again!
    - Basher (from Ocean's Eleven)

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    aww mang...

    this is pissing me off... there are so many things to consider...

    i wish there a definitive answer to THE BEST chip.

    are there any local REVO installers?

    and also i know with GIAC ive heard that discoutns are just unheard of...

    are there any discounts or places that i can get a good deal on revo?

    i wanted to go with GIAC because its flashloaded and alos because jeff moss is really close by and i can always get it reflashed or if i have any problems hes close by...

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Villains's Avatar
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    Originally posted by fongaroos
    aww mang...

    this is pissing me off... there are so many things to consider...

    i wish there a definitive answer to THE BEST chip.

    are there any local REVO installers?

    and also i know with GIAC ive heard that discoutns are just unheard of...

    are there any discounts or places that i can get a good deal on revo?

    i wanted to go with GIAC because its flashloaded and alos because jeff moss is really close by and i can always get it reflashed or if i have any problems hes close by...
    David at EuroCode is close and we usually have GTG's and test/tune a bunch of cars. Talk to him and he may give you the buddy discount. Tell him Derrick sent you!
    -Derrick

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    Veteran Member Four Rings fongaroos's Avatar
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    is the revo for 04.5 A4s yet?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Villains's Avatar
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    Yes.
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    oooo... sanks...

    but REDONDO BEACH?! ugh...
    Last edited by fongaroos; 06-30-2004 at 04:18 PM.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Villains's Avatar
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    Originally posted by fongaroos
    oooo... sanks...
    You welcome Mang!
    -Derrick

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    Originally posted by fongaroos
    oooo... sanks...

    but REDONDO BEACH?! ugh...
    Don't even go there cuz I'm going down on 10th all the way from San Jose.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Villains's Avatar
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    Originally posted by fongaroos
    oooo... sanks...

    but REDONDO BEACH?! ugh...
    He will come out to you. We usually get together to do some tuning so we can pick a night and meet up. Then he will flash your ECU.
    -Derrick

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    Veteran Member Four Rings bugzy's Avatar
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    I can tell you everyone will tell you to get what they got on their cars.


    Ive had both of them ... in one case, ive had GIAC and Revo at same time *wink*

    IBE switch is cool ;)

    but i say, both are excellent, cant go wrong with either
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    Registered Member Two Rings
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    You guys are so lucky to have an experienced tuner, with tons of knowledge in your own back yard. With that being said,go with Revo from Dave at Eurocode tuning. They are doing things with there software that other tuners are dreaming about. After talking with Dave, over the past several days, I am so impressed with his understanding of our cars, that I am hoping to talk him into flying to Florida to set up my car with the EO5 kit.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings DLSJ5's Avatar
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    Originally posted by zemun2
    Don't even go there cuz I'm going down on 10th all the way from San Jose.
    D,

    I never mentioned this but I love your sig, that's gotta be the best one I've seen on the funny meter, Hopefully you can get that car of yours running good, I can relate w/ my T28 misery at least NS did all they could for you, I respect them for that. If it wasn't for David I may have eventually blown the motor with the PES kit. He was the first tuner to take the time to help. We just put a new beta file in my car and OMG! Gotta have some fun before I go w/ APR's Stage 3!!! Derrick get the bottle baby!

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    Veteran Member Four Rings DLSJ5's Avatar
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    Originally posted by Kman
    You guys are so lucky to have an experienced tuner, with tons of knowledge in your own back yard. With that being said,go with Revo from Dave at Eurocode tuning. They are doing things with there software that other tuners are dreaming about. After talking with Dave, over the past several days, I am so impressed with his understanding of our cars, that I am hoping to talk him into flying to Florida to set up my car with the EO5 kit.
    A big "I CONCUR" from me.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Mark's Avatar
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    all I can really say is go with someone local. having to ship your ECU is no fun.
    -Mark

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    danke for the info, revo it is. calling handler in holland tomorrow to see if they can hook me up if not in the mail she goes.

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    called REVO and they are still workin out final steps of 04 software and said it would be about a week. Not sure what that really translates into. Said tey could probably send the file to the tuner in Holland and flash my girl. We will see. Saw a pretty heated discussion on the forum about Revo and Giac, I think it was under the Jeff a torqueworld or somethin like that.. Vill tellin it how it is man. Whew...... Had me readin hard.

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    Originally posted by HICK
    called REVO and they are still workin out final steps of 04 software and said it would be about a week. Not sure what that really translates into. Said tey could probably send the file to the tuner in Holland and flash my girl. We will see. Saw a pretty heated discussion on the forum about Revo and Giac, I think it was under the Jeff a torqueworld or somethin like that.. Vill tellin it how it is man. Whew...... Had me readin hard.
    just this morning i got my audi flash loaded with GIAC 04 program drive-by-wire. and let me tell you. wow i'm super happy and my car feels like its on steriods. i'm happy with my choice. GIAC

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