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    just wondering what the k03 max power is, as what is most hp that people have been able to get out of it. and what did you do to be able to do that ?

    im just trying to get the max hp out of my k03 for now till i go BT in the winter.

    i know this have been up before, but im so lazy and to busy right now to look it up, so if someone could help me that would be great.
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    Re: k03 max power

    There is a guy who got 253whp and I think 358 wtq on the stock turbo, he has a whole write up on what you need to do to achieve that on VWvortex.
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    Re: k03 max power

    Quote Originally Posted by Militant-Grunt View Post
    There is a guy who got 253whp and I think 358 wtq on the stock turbo, he has a whole write up on what you need to do to achieve that on VWvortex.
    I think he did it on a GTI 1.8T though, not an A4.

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    thats savwako on the tex, its a jetta GLI. which has the k03 sport and less drivetrain less thanks to FWD, as well as VVT, and they can start with giac x+ or apr stage II, so expecting 250 something whp on a quattro from a k03 is about as likely as me fucking heidi klum tonight. he also had to run 27psi and meth injection to get these figures.

    mike hood (mike-2ptzero) got =~250chp out of his k03 setup.
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    Re: k03 max power

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeWasHere05 View Post
    I think he did it on a GTI 1.8T though, not an A4.
    He also did it not running just bolt on parts and I dont think all of that power was made by the turbo. But I am pretty sure that is all in his thread.

    the most I got out of my K03 was 200+awhp running 20psi and tuned for 104+octane. Only added parts were fmic, CAI, TP and 2.5" exhaust. Setup was even still using stock injectors and stock FPR.

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    Re: k03 max power

    Quote Originally Posted by mike-2ptzero View Post
    He also did it not running just bolt on parts and I dont think all of that power was made by the turbo. But I am pretty sure that is all in his thread.

    the most I got out of my K03 was 200+awhp running 20psi and tuned for 104+octane. Only added parts were fmic, CAI, TP and 2.5" exhaust. Setup was even still using stock injectors and stock FPR.
    Was that with an off-the-shelf chip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeWasHere05 View Post
    Was that with an off-the-shelf chip?
    No, it was a custom GIAC chip.

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    Re: k03 max power

    alrght,well i got to look into this more but thanks for the help so far, if anyone else has some info to share that would be great.

    do you think i would able to hit 200whp with
    apr chip
    test pipe
    custom exhaust
    bigger injectors
    change the fpr
    fmic
    intake ( which i know doesnt do anything for our cars jusr wanted to throw it in)
    and maybe spray the intercooler with nos or co2 ?


    also on that note im fwd lol yes i know how some people feel about fwd to awd but i dont care i like my car and i just want to mod it and make it the best it can be.

    note again im asking because i can get this and done for a good price, and like i said before i just want to do this for now till i go bt in the winter. going to be going Garrett T3/T4..custom tube manifold...standalone...ect....
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    Re: k03 max power

    Quote Originally Posted by mike-2ptzero View Post
    He also did it not running just bolt on parts and I dont think all of that power was made by the turbo. But I am pretty sure that is all in his thread.

    the most I got out of my K03 was 200+awhp running 20psi and tuned for 104+octane. Only added parts were fmic, CAI, TP and 2.5" exhaust. Setup was even still using stock injectors and stock FPR.

    Thats depressing...

    I would think we could strangle a little more than that out of a KO3.

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    Re: k03 max power

    I still question why Audi went with such a weak turbo. They could have OWNED the luxury sedan market back in the day. They had the engine to do it, programming wouldn't have been hard for them.... they had an engine with the potential to put down ponies, and just said "ehh, fuck it" (but in German)
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    Re: k03 max power

    they did it to keep a naturally aspirated engine feel with ample low end torque. they did it to eliminate lag as much as possible, not so it can be a track/drag monster out of the box.
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    Re: k03 max power

    Quote Originally Posted by A4 Sparks View Post
    alrght,well i got to look into this more but thanks for the help so far, if anyone else has some info to share that would be great.

    do you think i would able to hit 200whp with
    apr chip
    test pipe
    custom exhaust
    bigger injectors
    change the fpr
    fmic
    intake ( which i know doesnt do anything for our cars jusr wanted to throw it in)
    and maybe spray the intercooler with nos or co2 ?


    also on that note im fwd lol yes i know how some people feel about fwd to awd but i dont care i like my car and i just want to mod it and make it the best it can be.

    note again im asking because i can get this and done for a good price, and like i said before i just want to do this for now till i go bt in the winter. going to be going Garrett T3/T4..custom tube manifold...standalone...ect....

    Might be able to get that with the fwd. You might need dbw size injectors with the stock FPR, you really dont want to up the FPR as it is since it is 4 bar(58psi) base fuel presssure.

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    Re: k03 max power

    what do you think good injectors would be ? and would a 5 bar fpr hurt if i threw it on ?
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    Re: k03 max power

    best thing to do would be to get a custom race gas tune

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    Re: k03 max power

    Quote Originally Posted by A4 Sparks View Post
    what do you think good injectors would be ? and would a 5 bar fpr hurt if i threw it on ?
    Well you could start with 310cc injectors at 2.8bar fpr setting. This is the setup the PC16 chip is tuned for on a K04. Since you wont exactly be pushing that type of power with the K03 you could most likely get away with the stock injectors with the 4 bar fpr. But this will all be up to you and your tuner.

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    Re: k03 max power

    180TT injectors are 317cc i believe? could probablly find a set of them cheap
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    Would Accell 310cc injectors be good ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by A4 Sparks View Post
    Would Accell 310cc injectors be good ?
    Not sure, but make sure any injector you do get is made for turbo setup not just for NA.

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    what is the cc on our stock injctors?
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    Re: k03 max power

    i think 212 for the AEB, 270 for the dbw, not sure though
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    Re: k03 max power

    I personally don't see the point in trying to test the limits of the K03 on a daily driver. This is exactly what K04's or GT series turbos are for. Yes, you can make 200AWHP on a K03, but it's no where near what I'd call a "safe" setup, especially living in Florida. Going back to the VWVortex member that made uber power on his K03, I dug up a thread that itemized his spending to get what he got.... It was just over $3,000. Another grand and you'd have a completely bullet-proof APR Stage 3 (not +). Heck, you could even save a few pennies if you went to a somewhat aggressive K04.

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    Re: k03 max power

    well, im only doing this for now and be running like this till the late fall early winter when i go bt...and as for you saying here in fl yes in fl where you are but im in nj lol...does that make fl a bad place for trying to get the max hp out of a k03 ???
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    would 440cc or450cc injectors be going to big ?
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    Re: k03 max power

    Quote Originally Posted by A4 Sparks View Post
    would 440cc or450cc injectors be going to big ?
    that is way over kill for a k03, that size is used on stage 3 size turbo. If you used them on a K03 you would only be using half of the injector duty.

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    would it hurt anything if i was to run that size of injectors ? just wondering because i can use them later on when i go bt
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    Quote Originally Posted by A4 Sparks View Post
    would it hurt anything if i was to run that size of injectors ? just wondering because i can use them later on when i go bt
    Do you plan on running them on your K03 chip or having someone custom tune the car?

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    I've fought the urge long enough - save your money. don't waste another cent on the k03.

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    for right now i would used them on the k03 chip
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    Quote Originally Posted by 94jedi View Post
    I've fought the urge long enough - save your money. don't waste another cent on the k03.

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    Re: k03 max power

    Quote Originally Posted by A4 Sparks View Post
    for right now i would used them on the k03 chip
    LOL. That will not work.

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    Re: k03 max power

    Here's the dyno graph for the 258 hp GTI Jetta your guys are talking about.



    To me, that choppiness does not look safe - like something is giving out. I'd save the money for an upgraded turbo.

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    Re: k03 max power

    I wonder how many weeks he expects that turbo to last with running a MBC at very high boost and nearly clamping the wastegate completely closed. I would hate to see how badly his cylinder head temps are since he is trying to flow all of that exhaust thru a hole the size of my fist.

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    lol alright...would 330cc injectors with the k03 chip work fine ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by A4 Sparks View Post
    lol alright...would 330cc injectors with the k03 chip work fine ?
    It could if you tweak the FPR and injector duty, but you better know what you are doing. You cant just throw in larger injectors and expect the ecu to adjust on its own, we dont own B6's.

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    so what do i have to do so that i can put the 330cc injectors in and not have the ecu be all weird " note i also have the apr chip in idk if that means anything or not"
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    Re: k03 max power

    the extent of my "getting the most" out of the K03 goes as far as throwing 5gal of 100octane in the tank once a month for my Autocrosses and switching to my "race" program from APR. It's damn strong (6.9 CAPS with a cracked L-Hose)...and damn safe too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A4 Sparks View Post
    so what do i have to do so that i can put the 330cc injectors in and not have the ecu be all weird " note i also have the apr chip in idk if that means anything or not"
    well larger injectors are not going to mean more power so it really isn't a needed mod for a k03. Just push your car to its limits with the stock injectors and stock fpr while watching AFR.

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    save the money and put it in the BT fund or buy parts for the BT setup and skip the k03 tune
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    i dont really need to save up for the bt...i got hooked up with a good job for the summer and ill have way more then enough money for my bt...so right now i just want to max out the k03 till that time just for the hell of it... has anyone heard of a custom apr chip ? i saw one and it said it would get my 1.8t to 198hp and about 240tq
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    Re: k03 max power

    Quote Originally Posted by A4 Sparks View Post
    i dont really need to save up for the bt...i got hooked up with a good job for the summer and ill have way more then enough money for my bt...so right now i just want to max out the k03 till that time just for the hell of it... has anyone heard of a custom apr chip ? i saw one and it said it would get my 1.8t to 198hp and about 240tq
    If that is chp that is a standard for APR. Plus I dont think APR ever really did anything "custom" for anyone. If you really want to max out the turbo you will have to buy a chip that includes a "race" file which uses race fuel.

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