How Difficult Is It to Install S4 Bi-Xenon Ecodes?

SP · 06-24-2004 08:54 AM

Purchasing a S4 Ecode Bi-Xenon Kit and was wondering if these were Plug-n-Play. How difficult is the installation and was wondering if anyone had DIY on it. Any install or operation issues (i.e. autoleveling and such)?

TIA,
Oenophile

**Saturnine** · 06-24-2004 08:55 AM

Its all plug and play.. Its a really tight fit on the passenger side thou, since the wiring harness *barely* has enough slack in it..

SP · 06-24-2004 09:02 AM

How mcu did you pay for it and where did you get it I might ask? The place that I am looking to get is going to charge me $1000 for Valeo PnP unit. Does this sound right?

**Saturnine** · 06-24-2004 09:07 AM

1000 bucks??? sheesh.. I bought mine from Ebay for 600 shipped from Germany.

**SAlNlDllvllAlNl** · 06-24-2004 09:12 AM

I think he's taking about $1000 including ballasts and what not. At least I hope thats what he's talking about or else a $1000 is wayyyy to much.

**BrokenXenon** · 06-24-2004 09:58 AM

OWNED

**neoprufrok** · 06-24-2004 10:30 AM

Originally posted by SAlNlDllvllAlNl
I think he's taking about $1000 including ballasts and what not. At least I hope thats what he's talking about or else a $1000 is wayyyy to much.

The s4 bixenon's all should come with ballasts and bulbs. The ones that Saturnine got has ballasts and bulbs included.

**DolphinV8** · 06-24-2004 01:07 PM

really? well, I paid $710 shipped from germany. (came with D2S xenonx)

**Saturnine** · 06-24-2004 01:22 PM

Damn, how did you get D2S blubs??? I wish mine had come with those, there are waaaaay more bulb choices for D2S..

**DolphinV8** · 06-24-2004 02:22 PM

hun? not all xenon plus comes with D2S? isn't that standard in europe?

**Saturnine** · 06-24-2004 02:29 PM

The 4 sets of Bixenons that ive had all had D1S blubs..

weird.

**ProtoColD** · 06-24-2004 05:17 PM

From what I know, they all come with D1S bulb. Valeo did not make any D2S bi-xenon projectors.

**ProtoColD** · 06-24-2004 10:08 PM

Originally posted by Saturnine
Its all plug and play.. Its a really tight fit on the passenger side thou, since the wiring harness *barely* has enough slack in it..

I have tried. My wiring harness on the passenger is not long enough at all.

I would have to build an extend harness to go with it. Now I have only the driver side working.

**Saturnine** · 06-24-2004 11:10 PM

Check your Bixenons out.. they are Valeo's..

Originally posted by ProtoColD
From what I know, they all come with D1S bulb. Valeo did not make any D2S bi-xenon projectors.

**ProtoColD** · 06-24-2004 11:25 PM

Originally posted by Saturnine
Check your Bixenons out.. they are Valeo's..

I know. Thats what i am saying. Valeo did not make any D2S bi-xenon. They are all D1S bi-xenon.

**Saturnine** · 06-24-2004 11:40 PM

Oh.

**ProtoColD** · 06-25-2004 12:00 AM

Originally posted by Saturnine
Oh.

Hey man, on the driver side, did you have to relocate some other wire harness before you get put the headlight in??

I have to move some wiring harness otherwise it wont fit. How did you do yours?

**neoprufrok** · 06-25-2004 01:08 AM

Originally posted by ProtoColD
I have tried. My wiring harness on the passenger is not long enough at all.

I would have to build an extend harness to go with it. Now I have only the driver side working.

If you look on the inside of the pass side fender withthe headlight out, there should be a plastic clip that holds that harness in. Take the harness out of that clip, and it should give you some slack. Then, as you push the housing in, connect the harness as soon as you can and push it all teh way in.

**Saturnine** · 06-25-2004 08:57 AM

Its a tiiiiiiight fit fo sho..

**ProtoColD** · 06-25-2004 11:23 AM

Originally posted by Saturnine
Its a tiiiiiiight fit fo sho..

Feel like almost breaking it.. you dont want to have a tight wire because wire will be hardened and degrade as it ages, you dont really want to stretch it too tight or else you may have a bad wiring harness which will be costly to replace later, especially when you have electrical problems.

I am trying to build an plug and play extension harness with OEM parts. Researching right now. I am half way done.

Having only 1 light sucks.

**neoprufrok** · 06-25-2004 11:27 AM

Originally posted by ProtoColD
Feel like almost breaking it.. you dont want to have a tight wire because wire will be hardened and degrade as it ages, you dont really want to stretch it too tight or else you may have a bad wiring harness which will be costly to replace later, especially when you have electrical problems.

I am trying to build an plug and play extension harness with OEM parts. Researching right now. I am half way done.

Having only 1 light sucks.

It's not tight enough to cause any sort of degradation. It's taut for sure, but not tight enough to cause rubbing and degredation.

**ProtoColD** · 06-25-2004 11:28 AM

Originally posted by Saturnine
Its a tiiiiiiight fit fo sho..

John,

Do you have autoleveling on your car??

**ProtoColD** · 06-25-2004 11:30 AM

Originally posted by neoprufrok
It's not tight enough to cause any sort of degradation. It's taut for sure, but not tight enough to cause rubbing and degredation.

Oh you sure? coz mine is tight enough to cause rubbing... Can you take a picture of how you route the wire?? maybe I am doing something wrong here.

**Saturnine** · 06-25-2004 11:36 AM

Yes sir.

Originally posted by ProtoColD
John,

Do you have autoleveling on your car??

**ProtoColD** · 06-25-2004 11:47 AM

Originally posted by Saturnine
Yes sir.

I see. Nevermind.

I dont and I am also researching how to get manual leveling to work. I got all the parts for that just need to see how to wire them together also. Just checking.

**Saturnine** · 06-25-2004 11:48 AM

Wait. Manual leveling? you mean the adjustment screws on the top?

Originally posted by ProtoColD
I see. Nevermind.

I dont and I am also researching how to get manual leveling to work. I got all the parts for that just need to see how to wire them together also. Just checking.

**ProtoColD** · 06-25-2004 11:53 AM

No. Manual leveling is different from auto-leveling.

In Germany, all A4 with halogen headlight have manual leveling, which means inside the cabin, there is a oem knob switch in the dash that let you adjust the headlight level, up and down with 4 different step level. The switch is somehow connect to the manual leveling motor inside the headlight.

But for A4 with xenon headlight, they all have auto-leveling sensor build into the suspension and then sensor will talk to the ECU which then talk to the autolevel motor to adjust the level depending on the load of your car.

Once I can get it to work, I can adjust the headlight level up and down as needed.

**ProtoColD** · 06-25-2004 11:57 AM

and no... i am not talking about the adjustment screw in which they are used to align the headlight somewhat.

Manual leveling is another stuff..

I have seen some people have retrofitted manual leveling even on their xenon car which already has autoleveling, they make something to override the autoleveling which is kinda cool.

**Saturnine** · 06-25-2004 12:08 PM

Ahh cool.. I cant put that manual adjustment knob in there anyways, my sub level knob is there already

**ProtoColD** · 06-25-2004 12:12 PM

John, are you good at electronics?

**Saturnine** · 06-25-2004 12:14 PM

Not really

**ProtoColD** · 06-25-2004 12:15 PM

I was trying to get a hand to help me in researching that together.

**Saturnine** · 06-25-2004 12:18 PM

i can do stereo stuff, but thats about it..

**ProtoColD** · 06-25-2004 12:24 PM

I need to reverse engineer the switch and need to find out what pin go to what and then how to hook it to the little motor.

**ProtoColD** · 06-26-2004 10:03 AM

How can you adjust the headlight horizontally AND vertically??

after the headlight is installed on the car, you will ONLY see 1 adjustment screws... is that for horizontal or vertical?

What about the other one??

**Saturnine** · 06-26-2004 10:07 AM

The second adjustment screw isnt in the same place as US-spec etc.. If you look near the turn signal side of the light, there is a hole in the fender.. That's the new place where you stick the Allen key to adjust the vertical/horizontal (i cant remember which) position..

Take a look at the other light if you havent installed it yet..

**ProtoColD** · 06-26-2004 10:10 AM

ya i see that when i have the headlight out.. but it was covered when I put the headlight in..

am i doing something wrong?

**Saturnine** · 06-26-2004 01:15 PM

Read this again.

Originally posted by Saturnine
If you look near the turn signal side of the light, there is a hole in the fender.. That's the new place where you stick the Allen key to adjust the vertical/horizontal (i cant remember which) position..

Take a look at the other light if you havent installed it yet..

**ProtoColD** · 07-10-2004 02:12 AM

So here is my solution for the short wiring harness on the passenger side, One end plug right into the original harness, the other end plug into the headlight. This is made of 100% pure OEM Audi parts:

**kwan** · 07-10-2004 03:10 AM

Nice! I would have made one if I had the parts. =/ How much did it cost you?

Originally posted by ProtoColD
So here is my solution for the short wiring harness on the passenger side, One end plug right into the original harness, the other end plug into the headlight:

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