Anybody else have problems adjusting coils in the rear?

[B7AudiA4]

I have Tein SS and I wanted to go lower on the rear, but the tension is so much, I tried everything I could to turn the coils. Do I really have to take it off? Looking for other suggestions.

The sleeves would end up moving with the coils and stuff. I hate this design!

[davis449]

Yeah I think you do have to take them off. I know my tuner said you have to with the Koni's too.

[Coker Rat]

compress them, its bullshit but you need to do it, Mine you need to compress them and drop the subframe, there just isn't enough room, post a picture of the tein setup on the rear plz, I wouldn't mind seeing it

[sevenstarz]

They are a pain in the ass. Now I wish I would have bought the Bilsteins or Vogtland's they are easier to adjust in the rear from what I hear. Peace

[B7AudiA4]

Yeah, I'll post pics of it when I have the actual stance of the car when I get pictures.
I recently took pictures of 4 tires in the rear so it looked lower than what I was.

I dropped the subframe and everything... Only thing is, I didn't have a compressor. I'm just thinking how does the compressor fit under it? It doesn't look like it would.
Thanks



BTW: I'm lower in the front now.

[quattshot]

I have the Vogtland Kit and its the same problem adjusting in the rear. VERY HARD!
PS, the last picture made me sing out loud "Face Down Ass Up, thats the way we like to F@#$!"

[AAAA]

H&R all you have to do is still an allen in the bottom of the perch and turn it. pretty damn easy. I wish they made dampening adjustable, they ride so nice.

[quattshot]

H&R all you have to do is still an allen in the bottom of the perch and turn it. pretty damn easy. I wish they made dampening adjustable, they ride so nice.

Intersting, there is a spot for an allen key on the bottom of the Vogtland kit.

[nadroj81]

thats why you buy COs which you can adjust while they are on the car. when you go with the cheaper setups you usually can't adjust them while they are on the car.

[quattshot]

thats why you buy COs which you can adjust while they are on the car. when you go with the cheaper setups you usually can't adjust them while they are on the car.

Then the manufactures and distributors are lying to us all.
Uh oh, class action!

No seriously, a $1,000 coilover kit from a reputable company such as Vogtland should be able to adjust while on the car. Why I can't do so, may be due to my lack of motorskillzzzz or $1,000 bucks doesn't make it in the Nadroj class of on-car adjustable kits. Seems odd since a Tein Flex kit I had a while back did so just fine.

What is the price break point to where coilover kits don't adjust on the car???

[AAAA]

Then the manufactures and distributors are lying to us all.
Uh oh, class action!

No seriously, a $1,000 coilover kit from a reputable company such as Vogtland should be able to adjust while on the car. Why I can't do so, may be due to my lack of motorskillzzzz or $1,000 bucks doesn't make it in the Nadroj class of on-car adjustable kits. Seems odd since a Tein Flex kit I had a while back did so just fine.

What is the price break point to where coilover kits don't adjust on the car???

lately there isn't such a point. you can get konis, stasis, and H&R all within 100.00 of each other. tein and vogtland crappier kits are even cheaper. b&g are 969.00. Its not until you get to kw's and bilsteins and the better teins that you get to 9pt and 12pt damping settings and easy adjustability (with the exception of h&r on the adjustability easy part).

[quattshot]

lately there isn't such a point. you can get konis, stasis, and H&R all within 100.00 of each other. tein and vogtland crappier kits are even cheaper. b&g are 969.00. Its not until you get to kw's and bilsteins and the better teins that you get to 9pt and 12pt damping settings and easy adjustability (with the exception of h&r on the adjustability easy part).

Well, don't know what crappy versions of Tein or Vog. your speaking about for $1200. Is the kit crappy if you don't have dampening adjustability?? I assume thats what you mean. That would not make any sence. Also, check your pricing points.
Where talking height adjustability and the ease of turning the collars not dampening.

I might have misread your response.

[MAlby7]

So which coilover setups can you adjust while they are on the car then?

[quattrotman]

This is why I think coilovers are bullshit. The only thing I like about them is that you can set it at where you want it but then you mine as well forget it because it's a major pain to re-adjust. My old H&R/bilstein setup was great but I didn't like the way it sat and couldn't do anything about it so I sold em and got CO.
I got konis...it took a few tries to get it where I liked it but I'm not touching it anymore. Changing the dampening is another thing and does require rmoval of shocks > not such a big deal especially inthe rear.
I can't speak for other more expensive options but most CO that I looked at had similar designs and due to our suspension design there just isn't any room to adjust the rear when it's on the car.

[AAAA]

Well, don't know what crappy versions of Tein or Vog. your speaking about for $1200. Is the kit crappy if you don't have dampening adjustability?? I assume thats what you mean. That would not make any sence. Also, check your pricing points.
Where talking height adjustability and the ease of turning the collars not dampening.

I might have misread your response.

tein has a cheap setup that has no dampening adj. The 1100 set is the good one, which is what i said. Crappy to me is no dampening, and having to take them off to adjust. What do you mean by checking my price points? you get what you pay for. 600-900 you have either crappy design/quality and/or no dampening. Some kits 1000-1200 you get both, but sacrifice one or the other--dampening adj or easy of both adjustability points. If you want to have dampening adj AND adjustability on the car, you get up to kw's, bilsteins, and 1500+ price range. So like I said, the best to be from a logic standpoint is h&r b/c you just stick an allen in the rears to adjust, and the fronts take about 10-15min to adjust the threads. The shocks are automatically engineered to adhere to the height accordingly, and they ride great. Its just that if you do happen to want stiffer or softer, then you're out of luck. I had a friend who had kw V3's, and he rode in my car w/ H&R's and said the ride was outstanding.
On a diff note, I'm callling Eibach tomorrow to see if their prostreet S coilovers are adj on the car, and how so b/c they are height and damp adj and i found them for 1002.00 shipped.

[quattshot]

tein has a cheap setup that has no dampening adj. The 1100 set is the good one, which is what i said. Crappy to me is no dampening, and having to take them off to adjust. What do you mean by checking my price points? you get what you pay for. 600-900 you have either crappy design/quality and/or no dampening. Some kits 1000-1200 you get both, but sacrifice one or the other--dampening adj or easy of both adjustability points. If you want to have dampening adj AND adjustability on the car, you get up to kw's, bilsteins, and 1500+ price range. So like I said, the best to be from a logic standpoint is h&r b/c you just stick an allen in the rears to adjust, and the fronts take about 10-15min to adjust the threads. The shocks are automatically engineered to adhere to the height accordingly, and they ride great. Its just that if you do happen to want stiffer or softer, then you're out of luck. I had a friend who had kw V3's, and he rode in my car w/ H&R's and said the ride was outstanding.
On a diff note, I'm callling Eibach tomorrow to see if their prostreet S coilovers are adj on the car, and how so b/c they are height and damp adj and i found them for 1002.00 shipped.

Most people could care less about dampening adjustability. Most people who purchase a kit with the ability USUALLY set it ONCE and NEVER touch the settings again and if they do they usually set it to 50% or fairly neutral. They just want a firmer yet comfortable ride with a custom height flexability. While its your opinion to say that coilovers that offer no dampening adj. are crap, you are being very close minded. You just happen to prefer FULL ADJUSTABILITY. I myself have PLENTY of experience with complete adjustability and for the Audi (daily driver) couldn't care less about dampening. My experience is well documented not only here on US tracks but in Japan at Fuji Speedway. Trust me, I know quality and I know suspension geometry. I researched the best kit that was firm enough but not kidney rattling. I have had 3 H&R kits in the past one being an experimental kit from H&R with custom spring rates and valving. I'm an H&R fan but not for the inexpensive models under $800. Why not? Well not because of adjustability but for lack of spring rate offerings. They were fine for lowering the vehicle and controling dive and lift but still a bit to soft for me.
Vogtland was a perfect choice for spring type and valving. I didn't need anything aggressive for my daily ride. Been there done that.
All the best.
ja

[AAAA]

Most people could care less about dampening adjustability. Most people who purchase a kit with the ability USUALLY set it ONCE and NEVER touch the settings again and if they do they usually set it to 50% or fairly neutral. They just want a firmer yet comfortable ride with a custom height flexability. While its your opinion to say that coilovers that offer no dampening adj. are crap, you are being very close minded. You just happen to prefer FULL ADJUSTABILITY. I myself have PLENTY of experience with complete adjustability and for the Audi (daily driver) couldn't care less about dampening. My experience is well documented not only here on US tracks but in Japan at Fuji Speedway. Trust me, I know quality and I know suspension geometry. I researched the best kit that was firm enough but not kidney rattling. I have had 3 H&R kits in the past one being an experimental kit from H&R with custom spring rates and valving. I'm an H&R fan but not for the inexpensive models under $800. Why not? Well not because of adjustability but for lack of spring rate offerings. They were fine for lowering the vehicle and controling dive and lift but still a bit to soft for me.
Vogtland was a perfect choice for spring type and valving. I didn't need anything aggressive for my daily ride. Been there done that.
All the best.
ja

so what's the whole point of your bash on me then? nothing in that reply had anything to do with adjusting the height. And I've never had any coils that have had dampening adjustability, so I think your assumption there was far fetched. I wasn't meaning to say that if there is no dampening adj then they're crap. I was referring to you get what you pay for. So usually kits that are under 1k aren't that great a quality, which is why they are cheap to begin with. Tein's without dampening adj are crap in my opinion b/c of the ride. Tein's that are 1100 and are dampening adj are better because of the 9pt dampening adj. And I'm also an H&R fan b/c of the spring rate pre-set according to the respected height and it still being a comfortable ride. But my original remark was dealt to the fact that H&R you can adjust the rear with a simple turn of an allen wrench.

[B7AudiA4]

Enough about this whole nonsense talk.
I love Tein, I have had Tein products ever since my first car til this day and never regreted it.
I have Tein Super Streets which are damping and height adjustable.

I don't care what you guys say, all I needed or wanted help on was adjusting the rear.

And btw: The reason why i'm going lower is I got rims and I wanted to even out the height! With my stock rims, it was different!

[blueline]

I got the Stasis Street Sport and its a pain in the ass to adjust. I had to go back to the shop where they did the install to get it done....been back twice! Even they hate making the adjustments!

Worth the trouble...the ride is so sweet!

[4-tified]

lately there isn't such a point. you can get konis, stasis, and H&R all within 100.00 of each other. tein and vogtland crappier kits are even cheaper. b&g are 969.00. Its not until you get to kw's and bilsteins and the better teins that you get to 9pt and 12pt damping settings and easy adjustability (with the exception of h&r on the adjustability easy part).

Wow, those prices don't seem so bad when compared to Motorcycle suspensions.
On my Honda VFR I installed a realtively "inexpensive" rear shock (coil over damper)
from Progressive and it was only about $400 for just 1 setup.
It was rebound adjustable and spring preload adjustable.
The higher end stuff went $800 and over (full compression, rebound, preload, with reservoir), and that's just for one coil over damper!

Doesn't Tein make a setup that you can adjust from inside the car?
Does it adjust compression/rebound damping and prelaod, or just damping?

BTW, you're both wrong becuase it's called "damping" (noun) not "dampening" (verb).
To "dampen" is to get wet/moist, like, "your GF has damped panties."

I digress.

[bhvrdr]

Intersting, there is a spot for an allen key on the bottom of the Vogtland kit.

That is for adjusting your rear ride height. It is one of the easiest B7 kits on the market to adjust.

cheers! mike

[quattshot]

Doesn't Tein make a setup that you can adjust from inside the car?
Does it adjust compression/rebound damping and prelaod, or just damping?

BTW, you're both wrong becuase it's called "damping" (noun) not "dampening" (verb).
To "dampen" is to get wet/moist, like, "your GF has damped panties."

I digress.

Yup, the Tein EDFC Unit is installed in your car. Small black boxes sit on top of the shock tower attached to the knob on the shock that adjusts compression. It simply cranks the knob for you. I had the Flex kit with EDFC on another car I had. I enjoyed it but lets be real, I probably adjusted the damping once in ablue moon EVEN at the autoX events. Plus Tein was great because they allowed you to order higher spring rates that would work in conjunction with the shocks valving.

Oh and HAHAAHA on the "Dampening" term! lol
Almost peed my pants when you pointed that out! lol

[Spidee]

At my current ride height of 25" in front and 24 7/8" in rear, the car did fine at the recent track day. I didn't rub but, it barely rubs when approaching high driveways. I'll hear a slight rub of the tire on the inner fender liner. I know first hand what is required to adjust the rear. So I can't wait to have to go thru that again. Hopefully my last time too.

Oh yeah, I have the streetsports.