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    Hi all,

    I'm about to do a DSG service on my car and have been going through older posts to get a sense of the recommended service intervals for the rest of the drivetrain components. As we know, the DSG interval is clearly documented in the service manual, but the others—particularly the differentials and transfer cases—seem less definitive.

    I wanted to check if there's any consensus within the group on the following:

    Rear Sport Differential – 60k miles?

    Rear Transfer Case – ??? (Audi claims lifetime fluid)

    Front Transfer Case – ??? (Also labeled as lifetime?)

    From what I understand, aside from the cost of OEM fluids, servicing these components isn't too difficult to do alongside the DSG. That said, I've also seen warnings that improper servicing—especially of the transfer cases—can potentially do more harm than good (even in some cases where this service was done at Audi dealers).

    Curious to hear who’s still running on factory-fill fluids for the sport diff and transfer cases, and who has already gone ahead and changed them (and at what mileage). Any noticeable improvements or issues after doing so?

    Thanks in advance for your input!

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    Following, my DSG is due for another service/fluid change (110k miles).

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_momma View Post
    Following, my DSG is due for another service/fluid change (110k miles).
    in the past 110k miles, have you ever done the Transfer Case fluids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skhan91 View Post
    in the past 110k miles, have you ever done the Transfer Case fluids?
    I'd have to look back at the service history on the Audi site as I picked it up used. I don't recall seeing a transfer case service listed though. I just watched the ECS DSG service video again last night and they mention the diff fluid is "lifetime" which they indicated was 100k miles.

    I'm debating doing the DSG service myself. It doesn't look too difficult outside of working on your back with the car on jack stands. This isn't new to me (coming from the Mustang world) but I prefer to not do stuff like this on my back any longer. I could possibly get access to a lift, but my main concern is with something going "wrong" with the VCDS portion. There were several comments on the ECS video about things not going exactly as described with the VCDS stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_momma View Post
    I'd have to look back at the service history on the Audi site as I picked it up used. I don't recall seeing a transfer case service listed though. I just watched the ECS DSG service video again last night and they mention the diff fluid is "lifetime" which they indicated was 100k miles.

    I'm debating doing the DSG service myself. It doesn't look too difficult outside of working on your back with the car on jack stands. This isn't new to me (coming from the Mustang world) but I prefer to not do stuff like this on my back any longer. I could possibly get access to a lift, but my main concern is with something going "wrong" with the VCDS portion. There were several comments on the ECS video about things not going exactly as described with the VCDS stuff.
    Makes sense. I am debating and concerned about the same things you mentioned.

    If it was maintained at a dealer it’s very likely that neither the sport diff and or the ranger case were ever serviced.

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    Check the RS5 maintenance schedule. That car has the same sports diff and it does call for fluid changes but I forget the interval. Either its similar to the DSG or it's 60k miles. It doesn't hurt to change the sports diff fluid and its very easy to do. I just got it done a few weeks ago.

    The DSG fluid is also a very easy DIY. The hardest part is getting that stupid cooler filter cap out and back in. It takes the perfect angle and some strength to bend the nearby oil line out of the way. The VCDS portion is very simple and will only fail if you have the engine running for steps that it shouldn't be. Some steps require the engine on, some off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A4x View Post
    Check the RS5 maintenance schedule. That car has the same sports diff and it does call for fluid changes but I forget the interval. Either its similar to the DSG or it's 60k miles. It doesn't hurt to change the sports diff fluid and its very easy to do. I just got it done a few weeks ago.

    The DSG fluid is also a very easy DIY. The hardest part is getting that stupid cooler filter cap out and back in. It takes the perfect angle and some strength to bend the nearby oil line out of the way. The VCDS portion is very simple and will only fail if you have the engine running for steps that it shouldn't be. Some steps require the engine on, some off.
    Thanks, this is helpful and encouraging.

    What about the transfer case fluid front and back? Does the RS5 call for that / have you done it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skhan91 View Post
    Thanks, this is helpful and encouraging.

    What about the transfer case fluid front and back? Does the RS5 call for that / have you done it?
    There is only one transfer case and it shares fluid with the gear portion of the DSG (MTF side) and the front differential. I have not done it but it is on my to-do list. I'm only at 72k miles in a 2016.

    I believe the drain plug is blocked by the transmission support brace at the rear of the trans. Trans must be supported with a jack and the brace must be removed to get at the drain plug. I am not 100% sure about this.

    Then there is the dilemma of if the friction modifier fluid is needed or not. I believe the OEM fluid PN is VAG G 055 532 A2 (5 liters).

    I do believe it would be a good idea to change this fluid eventually, as the MTF oil is exposed to high temperatures and will degrade over time. When I changed the front and rear diff oil on my old A4, the front diff oil was much more blackened and burnt than the rear, due to proximity to the hot engine, exhaust, and transmission. The rear stays cooler.

    Have a look through these 2 threads for tons of DIY info:

    https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...al-Service-DIY

    https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...-differential)

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    Quote Originally Posted by A4x View Post
    There is only one transfer case and it shares fluid with the gear portion of the DSG (MTF side) and the front differential. I have not done it but it is on my to-do list. I'm only at 72k miles in a 2016.

    I believe the drain plug is blocked by the transmission support brace at the rear of the trans. Trans must be supported with a jack and the brace must be removed to get at the drain plug. I am not 100% sure about this.

    Then there is the dilemma of if the friction modifier fluid is needed or not. I believe the OEM fluid PN is VAG G 055 532 A2 (5 liters).

    I do believe it would be a good idea to change this fluid eventually, as the MTF oil is exposed to high temperatures and will degrade over time. When I changed the front and rear diff oil on my old A4, the front diff oil was much more blackened and burnt that the rear, due to proximity to the hot engine, exhaust, and transmission.

    Have a look through these 2 threads for tons of DIY info:

    https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...al-Service-DIY

    https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...-differential)
    Thanks for the clarification, that makes sense.

    I was more wondering about the rear diff and how it has two different fluids (ATF and MTF). I’m debating to replace both or just replace the MTF and the leave the ATF side. I believe that’s the same ATF fluid used in the front transfer case you were referring to as well.

    Those links are super useful, I’ve reviewed the RS5 sport diff one in depth

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    Quote Originally Posted by skhan91 View Post
    Thanks for the clarification, that makes sense.

    I was more wondering about the rear diff and how it has two different fluids (ATF and MTF). I’m debating to replace both or just replace the MTF and the leave the ATF side. I believe that’s the same ATF fluid used in the front transfer case you were referring to as well.

    Those links are super useful, I’ve reviewed the RS5 sport diff one in depth
    Be careful. The maintenance schedule calls for the ATF fluid to be replaced in the rear diff. The MTF is actually listed as lifetime (but many replace it at the same time, might as well its easy and cheap).

    The ATF in the rear diff is NOT the same as the center transfer case/front differential/DSG MTF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A4x View Post
    Be careful. The maintenance schedule calls for the ATF fluid to be replaced in the rear diff. The MTF is actually listed as lifetime (but many replace it at the same time, might as well its easy and cheap).

    The ATF in the rear diff is NOT the same as the center transfer case/front differential/DSG MTF.
    I think the ATF is referred to as lifetime and the MTF is suppose to be 60k? That’s what the link you showed and the ECS guides all say


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    Quote Originally Posted by skhan91 View Post
    I think the ATF is referred to as lifetime and the MTF is suppose to be 60k? That’s what the link you showed and the ECS guides all say
    No, you got it backwards my friend. ATF is 60k and MTF is "lifetime".

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    Sport Diff and Transfer Box service

    Quote Originally Posted by A4x View Post
    No, you got it backwards my friend. ATF is 60k and MTF is "lifetime".
    Go to 9:00 “ATF is considered lifetime” or some say 100k miles

    https://youtu.be/Mz4VXjr5CEs?si=-BVJjePUW47Qa50n



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